psyche101 Posted June 21, 2022 #301 Share Posted June 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Will Due said: I totally agree. It's why I love science so much. Because from my standpoint, the things that are explained by science are the things that explain very much about God. For example, it's because of science and how it shows that the physical things in the universe are consistent that I am beyond certain that eventually and maybe with the new telescope we will see evidence that the plain of the universe is curved around its center. Just stop it. What you can science isn't what science really is. You hate science in its natural form or you would listen and learn from it. Your post shows you do not learn, you are not interested in learning. You're just another evangelist preaching inane BS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted June 21, 2022 Author #302 Share Posted June 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Sherapy said: I would appreciate this understanding to show up in the framing of your posts, thank you. You express your god as a he is fine as long as it is clear you construct him as a him for your needs. Just a suggestion. I see this as an opportunity for you to be inclusive. He, she, today it's kind of irrelevant. What's the difference? We are way past the point where the gender identity of God is something that needs to be brought up. Isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted June 21, 2022 #303 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: And this is what I’d call Getting Owned. Way to go girl. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted June 21, 2022 #304 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: The whole “Money-lenders in the Temple” debacle for starters which had always been considered sacrilege until the latter centuries BC. More like the old ways of worshipping had become highly corrupted in the last century or so BC and a new, more tolerant way of worshiping God had to take its place. It had nothing to do with changing religions. cormac Same thing can be seen now with Faith. Inc. Mass market faiths, we've got old religion, new religion, obscure and down right weird religions. Buy the books, the audio tapes, watch the movies. Salvation at the low cost of 10 payments of $99.99 order now!!! Edited June 21, 2022 by XenoFish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted June 21, 2022 Author #305 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, psyche101 said: You hate science No, I don't. But I do love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted June 21, 2022 #306 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Will Due said: He, she, today it's kind of irrelevant. What's the difference? We are way past the point where the gender identity of God is something that needs to be brought up. Isn't it? No, Will, I think now is the time to step up with good manners. Aren’t you working on being your best self aligning with the Father’s Will like Jesus? Jesus was aware of his culture and was inclusive according to the lore. Right? JMTC Edited June 21, 2022 by Sherapy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted June 21, 2022 Author #307 Share Posted June 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: The whole “Money-lenders in the Temple” That wasn't reforming religion. That was cleaning his Father's house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted June 21, 2022 Author #308 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sherapy said: No, Will, I think now is the time to step up with good manners. Aren’t you working on being your best self aligning with the Father’s Will like Jesus? Jesus was aware of his culture and was inclusive according to the lore. Right? JMTC Sorry I don't understand what you're getting at. He said God is his Father. He said God is our Father. What isn't inclusive about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted June 21, 2022 #309 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Will Due said: Sorry I don't understand what you're getting at. He said God is his Father. He said God is our Father. What isn't inclusive about that? Zeus was a lot of people and things father too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted June 21, 2022 Author #310 Share Posted June 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sherapy said: No, Will, I think now is the time to step up with good manners. Aren’t you working on being your best self aligning with the Father’s Will like Jesus? Jesus was aware of his culture and was inclusive according to the lore. Right? JMTC Fatherhood implies Motherhood does it not? Without both parents there can be no children. Fatherhood includes motherhood. No man who's ever lived was a father without there being a mother for him and her to procreate with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted June 21, 2022 #311 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Will Due said: That wasn't reforming religion. That was cleaning his Father's house. No that was reforming it as those in power were bastardizing it to line their own pockets and had done so for decades to centuries, long enough it became normalized. And that was just one element of many. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted June 21, 2022 #312 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Will Due said: Sorry I don't understand what you're getting at. He said God is his Father. He said God is our Father. What isn't inclusive about that? God is a masculine designation for a patriarchal society which DOES NOT take into account that God can neither be male NOR female. A more appropriate designation would either include both or neither genders. cormac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted June 21, 2022 Author #313 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said: No that was reforming it as those in power were bastardizing it to line their own pockets and had done so for decades to centuries, long enough it became normalized. And that was just one element of many. cormac Priests lining their pockets by taking advantage of their positions of power was not then is not now and will never be a part of religion. Jesus did not reform anything when he opened the gates to the animal pens, which roused the people to overturn the tables of the money changers who they were sick of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted June 21, 2022 Author #314 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Just now, cormac mac airt said: God is a masculine designation for a patriarchal society which DOES NOT take into account that God can neither be male NOR female. A more appropriate designation would either include both or neither genders. cormac Very well. Did you know that sometimes God is referred to as the Eternal-Mother-Son? That's about as inclusive as it can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted June 21, 2022 #315 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Will Due said: Priests lining their pockets by taking advantage of their positions of power was not then is not now and will never be a part of religion. Jesus did not reform anything when he opened the gates to the animal pens, which roused the people to overturn the tables of the money changers who they were sick of. Says the man who doesn’t know a myriad ways religious reform has come to pass since time immemorial. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted June 21, 2022 #316 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Will Due said: Very well. Did you know that sometimes God is referred to as the Eternal-Mother-Son? That's about as inclusive as it can get. It’s more inclusive than you are and I believe that was Sherapy’s point. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted June 21, 2022 #317 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, MOTHER OF GOD, Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death." Now that we've established the inclusivity of the fairer sex, let's move on. Edited June 21, 2022 by Hammerclaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted June 21, 2022 Author #318 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: It’s more inclusive than you are and I believe that was Sherapy’s point. cormac And once again like the fool that you are. You accuse me of what you're doing. Congratulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted June 21, 2022 #319 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Will Due said: Very well. Did you know that sometimes God is referred to as the Eternal-Mother-Son? That's about as inclusive as it can get. The ultimate transgender person? Both sexes at once? A transgender god of the UB would make headlines these days. Not according to my sources. Mum was sent into the abyss to make a new universe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted June 21, 2022 #320 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Will Due said: And once again like the fool that you are. You accuse me of what you're doing. Congratulations Since I usually stick with a masculine designation when talking about anything dealing with the Judeo-Christian religions and YOU are all over the place I don’t see a problem. Anybody with an ounce of sense knows they were a patriarchal society. No one is ever sure what field YOU are playing in. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted June 21, 2022 Author #321 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Just now, cormac mac airt said: Since I usually stick with a masculine designation when talking about anything dealing with the Judeo-Christian religions Well then like Sheri says, you're a misogynist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted June 21, 2022 #322 Share Posted June 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, MOTHER OF GOD, Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death." Now that we've established the inclusivity of the fairer sex, let's move on. Thank you, John. Leave it to you to be a sterling example of inclusivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted June 21, 2022 #323 Share Posted June 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Will Due said: Well then like Sheri says, you're a misogynist. Congratulations you learned a new word. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted June 22, 2022 #324 Share Posted June 22, 2022 43 minutes ago, Will Due said: No, I don't. But I do love you. It would be downright illogical to do otherwise. They don't come much more lovable than me. I think it's to do with my gentle approach. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted June 22, 2022 Author #325 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Congratulations you learned a new word. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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