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10 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

True that.  Doesn't stop people from saying the things they say though.  <Looks over at the Lee Zeldin thread>

Yes, there's plenty of hot air all around...and to spare.

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1 hour ago, Tatetopa said:

I believe Newt Gingrich was a major player in the Clinton impeachment,  I don't think he has ever been a Democrat.   Bill Clinton got a BJ.  As far as I know, he did not want to overthrow the government.  Donald Trump is not being prosecuted for getting it on with a porn star while Melania was pregnant.  Should there have been yet a third Trump impeachment just to keep things equal?

Clinton didn’t get impeached for getting a gobby, he got impeached for lying about it under oath. 
The man could have been sucked off until his eyeballs were in his navel and he’d be fine, it was the lying that did him in.

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Ahhhhhh, the eloquence of our political dialogue is what keeps America great…again. :lol:

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3 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

That's what this is, in every way but name and like the real impeachments, about to collapse under the weight of its own inadequacies. 

I doubt it.  In this case, there are no Senators or Reps. endlessly pontificating  for  their own ambitions.  It has all been straight forward questions then committee members shut up and let the witnesses talk. No Democrats trying to score the points or make the claims, just Republicans from Trump's own staff and inner circle  telling what they saw.  Some people still value patriotism  over party enough to do that.  I have no illusions, some people drank too much of Trump's Kool Aid to ever doubt him.   Others see what a sure fire way to power there is by continuing to sucker his most loyal fans.

Still for all of that, he could get re-elected and even at our advanced age, we might witness the decline of the United States into incompetence and authoritarianism.

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13 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

I doubt it.  In this case, there are no Senators or Reps. endlessly pontificating  for  their own ambitions.  It has all been straight forward questions then committee members shut up and let the witnesses talk. No Democrats trying to score the points or make the claims, just Republicans from Trump's own staff and inner circle  telling what they saw.  Some people still value patriotism  over party enough to do that.  I have no illusions, some people drank too much of Trump's Kool Aid to ever doubt him.   Others see what a sure fire way to power there is by continuing to sucker his most loyal fans.

Still for all of that, he could get re-elected and even at our advanced age, we might witness the decline of the United States into incompetence and authoritarianism.

It was a sham, like a communist show-trial, organized and executed and controlled by one party, token inclusion of two RINOs notwithstanding. A lengthy series of uncross examined witnesses reiterating, over and over again the conclusions of the organizers of this farcical tribunal, launched sheerly for public consumption and propaganda motives. The naivety of its sycophants is sad and pathetic.

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It's like when Schiff said they had proof positive of Trump collusion with Russia. He saw it and had it in his hands. :rolleyes:

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1 minute ago, Michelle said:

It's like when Schiff said they had proof positive of Trump collusion with Russia. He saw it and had it in his hands. :rolleyes:

I don't think that's what he had in his hands...:ph34r:

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4 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

Yes, but of if moral malfeasance was a crime, Bill Clinton would have been successfully impeached. The Democrats, repeatedly lowering the bar for their own, make that a tough sell.

Bill Clinton's presidency ended 16 years before Donald Trump's began.  Politics doesn't look back that far.  For a politician, four years is a long-term plan.  And nobody remembers Bill Clinton.

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‘It’s a kangaroo court’: in key state, Trump backers dismiss January 6 hearings

Millions of Americans spent Thursday evening stunned, appalled and amused by the season finale of the congressional hearings into the storming of the Capitol in the waning days of Donald Trump’s presidency, and his part in the deadly insurrection.

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But in the heart of Trump country, there’s a different take.

“I looked up kangaroo court,” said Terri Burl, a Republican activist in rural northern Wisconsin, a key swing state that Trump won in 2016 but lost four years later.
“I’m like, yes, that’s exactly what this is. What’s it supposed to prove?”

Burl’s loyalty to the former president – she was an early member of Trump for Women – has not been shaken by Thursday’s testimony from former Trump administration officials. She watched for almost an hour before giving up because she said that while “the violence and destruction is not OK as people forced their way into the Capitol”, the hearing was a one-sided attack on the former president rather than an attempt to get at the truth

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33 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

token inclusion of two RINOs notwithstanding.

Republicans were offered an equal number of seats on the committee, but declined.  Even Trump has said that was a mistake.

35 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

A lengthy series of uncross examined witnesses reiterating, over and over again the conclusions of the organizers of this farcical tribunal, launched sheerly for public consumption and propaganda motives. The naivety of its sycophants is sad and pathetic.

This was an investigation, not a trial.  Sort of like the grand jury.  No cross-examination, no opposition lawyers.  Whether there will even be a trial is still in doubt.  That is up to the DOJ and they have been anything but courageous and upstanding enforcers of the law.  That's the pathetic part - we can't count on our own Department of Justice to pursue justice for the American people.

Doug

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9 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

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That link didn't work for me.

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5 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

Yes, but of if moral malfeasance was a crime, Bill Clinton would have been successfully impeached. The Democrats, repeatedly lowering the bar for their own, make that a tough sell.

Criminal indictments of presidential staff/cabinet under the last six presidents:

Republicans:

Trump -215

Nixon - 76

Reagan - 26

Democrats:

Obama - 0

Carter - 1

Clinton - 2

Notice a pattern?

Source:  https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jan/09/facebook-posts/many-more-criminal-indictments-under-trump-reagan-/

Doug

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1 minute ago, Likely Guy said:

That link didn't work for me.

Me neither.

Doug

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1 hour ago, Doug1066 said:

Bill Clinton's presidency ended 16 years before Donald Trump's began.  Politics doesn't look back that far.  For a politician, four years is a long-term plan.  And nobody remembers Bill Clinton.

Doug

We do.

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49 minutes ago, Doug1066 said:

Criminal indictments of presidential staff/cabinet under the last six presidents:

Republicans:

Trump -215

Nixon - 76

Reagan - 26

Democrats:

Obama - 0

Carter - 1

Clinton - 2

Notice a pattern?

Source:  https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jan/09/facebook-posts/many-more-criminal-indictments-under-trump-reagan-/

Doug

Yeah, Democrats like to indict their adversaries, just not very successfully. 

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2 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

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Really are you sure you are not just addicted to Trump Kool-Laid because I know they sell it in Australia And that your the importer of the Trump Brand!:lol:

Trump fatigue sets in: ‘Some donors are getting sick of the sh--show:

As the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 riots lays out Donald Trump’s obsessive efforts to overturn the 2020 election results, Trump allies have responded with the political equivalent of a collective eye roll. But elsewhere in the party, operatives are taking notice. The former president is being damaged, they say — perhaps not fatally, but notably so.

In interviews, those operatives describe a GOP electorate still enamored with Trump and dismissive of the committee and its findings. But elements of the voters, donors and activists that make the three pillars of the party are exhausted too, they say. And they’re grog less willing to let the baggage of the Trump years complicate the future.

Trump is facing an important onslaught of negative facts with these hearings and there is no real defense. He has no friendly members on the committee and there aren’t facts to put in front of the public to make any of this sound less bad,” said Dan Eberhart, a Republican donor.

I think the January 6 hearings are continuation of the exhausting circus that surrounds Trump,” said a close DeSantis adviser granted anonymity to speak freely. “There are of course the lunchbox Republicans who think this is a ‘mass conspiracy,’ but among the donor class many are just tired of this.

But Trump himself seems to have internalized that the hearings have inflicted some dents. The former president has tuned into the proceedings from his Bedminster club in New Jersey and has fumed publicly and privately over a lack of Republican defenders on the committee. We have nobody on that panel who can fight back,” Trump told Wayne Allyn Root during a radio interview. “In a way, the Republicans should be ashamed of themselves.

( WHY ARE THERE NO REPUBLICANS ON THE COMMITTEE TRIMP— BECAUSE YOU TOLD THEM NOT TO PARTICIPATE YOU NARCISSISTIC FREAKEN IDIOT.!:lol::tsu:

Sarah Longwell, an anti-Trump and moderate Republican strategist who regularly conducts focus groups with Democrat, Republican and swing voters, said she has noted a shift. While the participants in her Trump voter focus groups are typically split on whether or not the former president should run, during the past two focus groups since the Jan. 6 hearings began, none have said they wanted Trump on the ticket in 2024.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/26/trump-fatigue-sets-in-some-donors-are-getting-sick-of-the-sh-show-00042413

 

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19 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Yeah, Democrats like to indict their adversaries, just not very successfully. 

Seems to have worked, except for the big fish.

Doug

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Just now, Doug1066 said:

Seems to have worked, except for the big fish.

Doug

Not for 208 of them, apparently, if those numbers are correct for Trump.

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1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said:

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The truth loyal Republicans will tell anyone who asks what they think of former President Donald Trump:

While it’s not well known, the Trump empire is seriously in decay, Trump Tower is literally falling apart people who live in the area have given the Tower,a new name!

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The true feelings of many loyal Republican voter are very very simple:

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This is what Legacy President Trump left the American people, but Americans are strong and while we stumbled, we will come back stronger because if it!

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Thus Is the view many Senior Republican Representatives have of Trump:

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5 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

The truth loyal Republicans will tell anyone who asks what they think of former President Donald Trump:

While it’s not well know, the Trump empire is seriously in decay, Trump Tower is literally falling apart people who live in the area have given the Towers a new name!

2B47AABB-11E0-4501-B5B7-4E9F694E68BF.jpeg.9b2d77f54522ce940aceaf92aa6c91f4.jpeg

The true feelings of many loyal Republican voter are very very simple:

C4A23F59-2534-4792-B6E5-B8F341ABB5F8.jpeg.b2fa90150bf2eb00ba12cadb7fd8bbb4.jpeg

This is what Legacy President Trump left the American people, but Americans are strong and while we stumbled, we will come back stronger because if it!

E316322C-8AC3-4C0D-BF3A-54D5218A90F0.thumb.jpeg.cc77063ab01335f0019fcb13fece8ab8.jpeg

Thus Is the view many Senior Republican Representatives have of Trump:

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Please, get Trump, it will make Ron DeSantis' journey to the Presidency a whole lot easier.

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28 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Really are you sure if are just addicted to Trump Kool-Laid because I know they sell it in Australia And that your the importanter!:lol:

I'm not as important as you think. Certainly  not more importanter than any other pro-Trump individual here :ph34r: :geek: :lol:

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40 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Please, get Trump, it will make Ron DeSantis' journey to the Presidency a whole lot easier.

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Just for your personal information if he is nominated I would vote for no one else!:tu:

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Just now, Manwon Lender said:

Just for your personal information if he is nominated I would vote for no one else!:tu:

In 2004, during his second year at Harvard Law, DeSantis was commissioned an officer in the U.S. Navy and assigned to the Navy Judge Advocate General's Corps (JAG). He completed Naval Justice School in 2005. Later that year, he received orders to the JAG Trial Service Office Command South East at Naval Station Mayport, Florida, as a prosecutor. He was promoted from lieutenant, junior grade to lieutenant in 2006. He worked for the commander of Joint Task Force-Guantanamo (JTF-GTMO), working directly with detainees at the Guantanamo Bay Joint Detention Facility.[18][19][20]

In 2007, DeSantis reported to the Naval Special Warfare Command Group in Coronado, California, where he was assigned to SEAL Team One and deployed to Iraq[21] with the troop surge as the Legal Advisor to the SEAL Commander, Special Operations Task Force-West in Fallujah.[18][19][20]

DeSantis returned to the U.S. in April 2008, at which time he was reassigned to the Naval Region Southeast Legal Service. The U.S. Department of Justice appointed him to serve as a Special Assistant U.S. attorney[21] at the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Middle District of Florida. DeSantis was assigned as a trial defense counsel until his honorable discharge from active duty in February 2010. He concurrently accepted a reserve commission as a lieutenant in the Judge Advocate General's Corps of the US Navy Reserve.[22]

During his military career, DeSantis was awarded the Bronze Star Medal, the Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal, the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal and the Iraq Campaign Medal.[18][19][20] As of 2022, he was still serving in the U.S. Navy Reserve.[23]      WIKIPEDIA

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33 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

I'm not as important as you think. Certainly  not more importanter than any other pro-Trump individual here :ph34r: :geek: :lol:

  So your the importanter the DEA and the Australian Drug Authority have been searching for you, I should have known it!!:lol:

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