Dominion Dominoes

[Gromdor]

57 minutes ago, razman said:

I dont know but if any violence occurs over or during the elections about this stuff , all these ****ers should be rounded up and held accountable , its this kind of crap that is keeping this bull**** alive. 

Texas Republicans declare Biden election illegitimate, despite evidence (msn.com)

Perhaps Dominion should include Texas in their damages lawsuit.

[quiXilver]

Texass Republicans declare themselves moronic, by their statements.

[+Razman]

1 hour ago, Gromdor said:

Perhaps Dominion should include Texas in their damages lawsuit.

Yea , its just wrong what they are doing , they are creating division amongst the American people , on false pretenses. Probably intentionally to try to benefit themselves. 

[+Razman]

An interesting article i saw about Trump. All you Trump supporters might want to just avoid it though.

OPINION | Everybody plays the fool.. for Donald Trump (msn.com)

[Tatetopa]

On 6/10/2022 at 10:05 AM, RavenHawk said:

Otero County (Couy Griffin) NM is removing Dominion machines and dropboxes. 

Pointless.  Donald Trump has convinced many Americans that elections are corrupt and rigged and cannot be trusted.  No going back now, who will trust an election?  Violence is likely to ensue in 2022. Conservatives have spit on the founding fathers, the Constitution, and may have ended the American experiment. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

20 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Pointless.  Donald Trump has convinced many Americans that elections are corrupt and rigged and cannot be trusted.  No going back now, who will trust an election?  Violence is likely to ensue in 2022. Conservatives have spit on the founding fathers, the Constitution, and may have ended the American experiment. 

Your right it is pointless, yet we can’t let that stop rational people from trying to change it people just can’t give up.

[Tatetopa]

10 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

Your right it is pointless, yet we can’t let that stop rational people from trying to change it people just can’t give up.

Well, it is not really pointless.  As you say, rational people cannot giver up.  But getting rid of a few voting machines will not repair the damage that has been done.

[RavenHawk]

8 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Pointless.  Donald Trump has convinced many Americans that elections are corrupt and rigged and cannot be trusted.

No, it was the evidence that has convinced the people of corruption.  Trump just initially brought it into the light.  It has been the MSM that has tried to convince them otherwise.  Nothing to see here, move along, with the pile of bodies in view.  Or it’s mostly peaceful protests, with buildings on fire in the background.

 

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No going back now, who will trust an election? 

That’s why someone needs to get a handle on this and setup Nuremberg-like tribunals to punish the guilty (including the MSM) and see that this does not happen again.  What didn’t come out in D’Souza’s movie, they have the names of those mules.  If Congress is swept by the Republicans, there will be roundups and with that many, someone is bound to talk.  This will be a real scandal that will make 6 Jan look like a Sunday social.  This is the real threat to our Constitutional Republic.

 

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Violence is likely to ensue in 2022.

I can’t see any avoidance of it.  Either the Marxists will remain in power via cheating, in which case “white supremacy” will rise up.  The Left has already used sound bites to set precedence.  In real life terminology, “white supremacy” just means whoever doesn’t get behind the Left’s narrative.  And they are going to use this vax mandate as an indicator.  But this will backfire as many that got at least one shot, will never take another.  The truth about this experimental drug is coming out.  This symbol of obedience has fallen flat.  People are beginning to notice the outbreak of SADS and its relation to the shot.  The Left has gone too far and they will only double down.  Now if it turns out as expected, and Conservatives win, you’ll see one last shot by this Administration to deepen the recession we are in and then the Soros back Antifa will run wild in the streets.  But the people will not wait for law enforcement and will fight back.  This is not going to be like other places in history where the populace cowered in fear.  Antifa (Red Guard) will find that it is they that will cower in fear.  So it’s coming.  What form it takes is unknown, but I think it will be violent.  With the recession deepening, inflation soaring, food shortages coming, rolling blackouts, etc., riots will become prevalent.  There might even be a military coup.

 

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Conservatives have spit on the founding fathers, the Constitution, and may have ended the American experiment. 

Really?  So who is it that wants to rewrite or even eradicate the Constitution and Bill of Rights?  It’s not the Conservatives.  Who says that the Constitution is obsolete?  It’s not Conservatives.  People like Trump are trying to save this American experiment.  The only spitting is being done by the Left.  Let me ask you the same two questions that I asked @Autochthon1990, and he has yet to answer.  They are simple yes or no answers.  Do you believe that the Constitution is a “living Document”?  Do you believe that the Bill of Rights are absolute?

 

[Myles]

11 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Pointless.  Donald Trump has convinced many Americans that elections are corrupt and rigged and cannot be trusted.  No going back now, who will trust an election?  

I voted for Trump but do not really like him.   I also did not buy into that he won the election.

However I was not opposed to investigations into election fraud.  It was the Democrats who fought , tooth and nail, to stop any investigations.   I can see how some may view that as protesting too much.  

[Duke Wellington]

On 6/10/2022 at 6:05 PM, RavenHawk said:

Otero County (Couy Griffin) NM is removing Dominion machines and dropboxes.  Sandoval and Torrance have been watching what Otero is doing closely and sounds like they may follow suit.  Others will follow.  Sandoval and Torrance straddle Bernalillo.  When Bernalillo falls, then we will turn red.  We'll see how much longer the dominoes remain standing.  We keep saying that this state is red, just that Republicans here don't vote.  It's the land of mañana.  We only had like 20% turnout for the Primary.  But it looks like the losing candidates are jumping into the winner's camp, so maybe it doesn't matter??  There is widespread cheating that goes on here, I've seen the data (David Clements - our Bobby Piton).  But because of the voting habits, it just doesn't matter.  Have other states started the process to remove Dominion?

 

https://www.survivethenews.com/breaking-huge-otero-county-new-mexico-votes-to-remove-dominion-voting-systems-zuckerberg-drop-boxes-and-other-election-machines/

Let us remember that Trump failed to get the Supreme Court to investigate election fraud not because of a lack of evidence but because Texas lacked the required standing. What that means is that Texas cannot take another US State to court over how it ran its election.

They didnt even hear the evidence out.

[+Razman]

1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

12 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Pointless.  Donald Trump has convinced many Americans that elections are corrupt and rigged and cannot be trusted.

No, it was the evidence that has convinced the people of corruption.  Trump just initially brought it into the light.  It has been the MSM that has tried to convince them otherwise.  Nothing to see here, move along, with the pile of bodies in view.  Or it’s mostly peaceful protests, with buildings on fire in the background.

 

 

 

What evidence?

[Autochthon1990]

1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

No, it was the evidence that has convinced the people of corruption.  Trump just initially brought it into the light.  It has been the MSM that has tried to convince them otherwise.  Nothing to see here, move along, with the pile of bodies in view.  Or it’s mostly peaceful protests, with buildings on fire in the background.

 

 

 

That’s why someone needs to get a handle on this and setup Nuremberg-like tribunals to punish the guilty (including the MSM) and see that this does not happen again.  What didn’t come out in D’Souza’s movie, they have the names of those mules.  If Congress is swept by the Republicans, there will be roundups and with that many, someone is bound to talk.  This will be a real scandal that will make 6 Jan look like a Sunday social.  This is the real threat to our Constitutional Republic.

 

 

 

I can’t see any avoidance of it.  Either the Marxists will remain in power via cheating, in which case “white supremacy” will rise up.  The Left has already used sound bites to set precedence.  In real life terminology, “white supremacy” just means whoever doesn’t get behind the Left’s narrative.  And they are going to use this vax mandate as an indicator.  But this will backfire as many that got at least one shot, will never take another.  The truth about this experimental drug is coming out.  This symbol of obedience has fallen flat.  People are beginning to notice the outbreak of SADS and its relation to the shot.  The Left has gone too far and they will only double down.  Now if it turns out as expected, and Conservatives win, you’ll see one last shot by this Administration to deepen the recession we are in and then the Soros back Antifa will run wild in the streets.  But the people will not wait for law enforcement and will fight back.  This is not going to be like other places in history where the populace cowered in fear.  Antifa (Red Guard) will find that it is they that will cower in fear.  So it’s coming.  What form it takes is unknown, but I think it will be violent.  With the recession deepening, inflation soaring, food shortages coming, rolling blackouts, etc., riots will become prevalent.  There might even be a military coup.

 

 

 

Really?  So who is it that wants to rewrite or even eradicate the Constitution and Bill of Rights?  It’s not the Conservatives.  Who says that the Constitution is obsolete?  It’s not Conservatives.  People like Trump are trying to save this American experiment.  The only spitting is being done by the Left.  Let me ask you the same two questions that I asked @Autochthon1990, and he has yet to answer.  They are simple yes or no answers.  Do you believe that the Constitution is a “living Document”?  Do you believe that the Bill of Rights are absolute?

 

 

 

I already said yes and no the other day, we have an entire process for amending the bloody thing for chrissakes. They're not commandments some Semitic farmer carved to get his tribesmen to stop killing each other and spending all their money on some ****ty golden ungulate. 

[RavenHawk]

1 hour ago, Cookie Monster said:

Let us remember that Trump failed to get the Supreme Court to investigate election fraud not because of a lack of evidence but because Texas lacked the required standing. What that means is that Texas cannot take another US State to court over how it ran its election.

They didnt even hear the evidence out.

That’s the story.  Case after case was dismissed.  Not on the basis of the evidence but because the courts did not want to deal with it and gave some procedural excuse to drop the case.  If November turns out the way it is expected, the way it should.  The evidence that has been floating around out there will then get serious attention.  And it is very damning evidence.  But when it’s found out the Bidet didn’t win, there is no precedence set on what to do?  Do you give Trump the next two years and allow him to run a third term?  He has 2024 if he wants it.  Bidet will be a lame duck anyway. And the Democrats will have serious charges to face, including conspiracy and treason.  The Administration will be crippled and in a time of existential danger.  Congress would need to work triple duty, just to keep us from going all the way down.  We’ll need leadership and we’ll see if the needed leadership rises from the ranks?

 

[RavenHawk]

55 minutes ago, razman said:

What evidence?

Seriously?  You’ve never seen any evidence, even by accident?  I guess the MSM has done their job.  Go pull up the Georgia Senate hearings from December of 2020.  Go google Bobby Piton and David Clements.  Go watch 2000 mules.  And those are just some.

 

[+Razman]

23 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Seriously?  You’ve never seen any evidence, even by accident?  I guess the MSM has done their job.  Go pull up the Georgia Senate hearings from December of 2020.  Go google Bobby Piton and David Clements.  Go watch 2000 mules.  And those are just some.

 

 

 

4 Highlights From Georgia Senate’s Election Fraud Hearing (dailysignal.com)

Fact check: Georgia audit hasn't found 30,000 'fake ballots' (usatoday.com)

[+Razman]

Fact Check-Does ‘2000 Mules’ provide evidence of voter fraud in the 2020 U.S. presidential election? | Reuters

[Tatetopa]

2 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

Really?  So who is it that wants to rewrite or even eradicate the Constitution and Bill of Rights?  It’s not the Conservatives.  Who says that the Constitution is obsolete? 

You do.  The Constitution has a perfectly good system for  acknowledging rights and outlines procedures for redress of grievances and dealing with criminal behavior.  Do you want a Nuremberg like tribunal because you lack faith in the ability of the Constitution to protect itself.?  

[Tatetopa]

39 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Seriously?  You’ve never seen any evidence, even by accident?  I guess the MSM has done their job.  Go pull up the Georgia Senate hearings from December of 2020.  Go google Bobby Piton and David Clements.  Go watch 2000 mules.  And those are just some.

 

 

 

That is not evidence.  That is attractive story telling.

 

[+Razman]

Fact check: False claim of fraud in Arizona voter registrations (usatoday.com)

[+Razman]

10 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

That is not evidence.  That is attractive story telling.

 

There is no evidence , its all been debunked , now we are seeing more from even trumps own team that he lost , they knew it then , even trump himself has admitted it , yet people still don't want to hear it. You can be sure , if there was any real evidence of mass election fraud , the whole situation would be different now , and heads would have rolled.

Edited June 20, 2022 by razman

[+Razman]

‘Avalanche’ of evidence proves Trump was engaged in a ‘multi-faceted criminal conspiracy’: legal expert (msn.com)

[Tatetopa]

4 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

People like Trump are trying to save this American experiment. 

If Donald Trump cared about saving America, he could have followed Constitutional procedure.

If Donald Trump believed there was fraud he could have collected evidence that would stand up under the Constitutionally  chartered judicial system.   Sixty-two times his lawyers brought cases to court without evidence that would stand up to Constitutionally designed rules of evidence.  There was no evidence that met Constitutional requirements.

If he wanted to save America, he could concede and allow an orderly transition of power and continue to appeal.

If Donald Trump was interested in saving America,  he would not have put pressure on state election bodies with personal phone calls.

Instead, he relied on salesmanship and mob violence to further his means.  Without evidence or Constitutional precedent, he began a Witch Hunt against Mike Pence, which according to testimony came close to getting him killed.

People like Trump are not trying to save America but himself.  He and his followers are trying to disregard the Constitution and impose their very non-Constitutional will on all Americans by force if need be.

Our answer to the Nuremberg Tribunal is the Jan.6 committee which does comply with our Constitution.  Perhaps similarly to that body, they have relied on witnesses that were victims of Trump's misdeeds and also his co-conspirators.   Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi, and other Democrats have not testified because they have no useful information.  What we are hearing is coming from Trump insiders  that decided the Constitution is more important than Donald Trump. 

 

 

[Duke Wellington]

4 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

That’s the story.  Case after case was dismissed.  Not on the basis of the evidence but because the courts did not want to deal with it and gave some procedural excuse to drop the case.  If November turns out the way it is expected, the way it should.  The evidence that has been floating around out there will then get serious attention.  And it is very damning evidence.  But when it’s found out the Bidet didn’t win, there is no precedence set on what to do?  Do you give Trump the next two years and allow him to run a third term?  He has 2024 if he wants it.  Bidet will be a lame duck anyway. And the Democrats will have serious charges to face, including conspiracy and treason.  The Administration will be crippled and in a time of existential danger.  Congress would need to work triple duty, just to keep us from going all the way down.  We’ll need leadership and we’ll see if the needed leadership rises from the ranks?

I propose a massive investigation banning all those involved from politics for life and giving them prison sentences.

[+Razman]

5 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

That’s the story.  Case after case was dismissed.  Not on the basis of the evidence but because the courts did not want to deal with it and gave some procedural excuse to drop the case.  If November turns out the way it is expected, the way it should.  The evidence that has been floating around out there will then get serious attention.  And it is very damning evidence.  But when it’s found out the Bidet didn’t win, there is no precedence set on what to do?  Do you give Trump the next two years and allow him to run a third term?  He has 2024 if he wants it.  Bidet will be a lame duck anyway. And the Democrats will have serious charges to face, including conspiracy and treason.  The Administration will be crippled and in a time of existential danger.  Congress would need to work triple duty, just to keep us from going all the way down.  We’ll need leadership and we’ll see if the needed leadership rises from the ranks?

 

 

 

The Dominos are already falling and the damning evidence is piling up against Trump and the group.

[RavenHawk]

34 minutes ago, Autochthon1990 said:

I already said yes and no the other day,

My mistake.  It’s just very difficult keeping track of what you haven’t answered or haven’t read.  I should have said that you gave the wrong answers.

 

The Constitution is ‘alive’.  It is as relevant today as it was then and will be well into the future.  Because it deals with the failures and depravity of man’s nature (what plagues Socialism of any flavor).  The Constitution was designed to control that side of his nature.  That nature has not changed since the species first appeared.  “Living Document” according to the Left allows for wholesale change.  Why have a bedrock document if you can completely change it every few years?  That is basically what China does.  Every so often, they start over at day-zero.  This document does not grant rights, it provides protections for those rights.  This document does not turn government lose on the people, it limits the government greatly.  It puts government in its rightful place, servant of the people.  That never changes, at least here.

 

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we have an entire process for amending the bloody thing for chrissakes.

Yes, we do.  But as I said before, the intent was not for wholesale changes or nullification of our rights, PERIOD!  Take note that of the 27 Amendments, none nullify individual rights.  I guess you didn’t read what I said in another thread of yours, so I’ll just copy it here.  It’s a bit long winded but you need context (the important part, I bolded).

 

Let me expand on that (and I’m going to be vague for brevity).  The 27 Amendments can be broken down into 5 categories.  The first group is the Bill of Rights (and there is an argument that could place the 11A with this group).  Because these are our absolute rights, it should have never been considered as amendments (perhaps as Article VIII).  It is really a separate document.  The government cannot infringe on these, PERIOD.  The next group (3 amendments) are what I call the ‘Socialist’ Amendments.  Two of them are powers of the state and should be returned to the states.  The third establishes the income tax.  Before 1932 (??) our government supported itself through tariffs.  It’s clear that it can’t do that anymore.  It should be a duty of the citizen.  And as such should not be an Amendment that imposes those taxes.  It should be listed under Article 1, Section 8.  The next one (2 amendments) shows that the post Bill of Rights Amendments can be in error and can be corrected.  6 more Amendments concern rights of special interest groups (and I’ve covered these before).  These need to be repealed and combined into, perhaps, two additions to the Bill of Rights.  One to declare that discrimination is not tolerated, no matter the attribute or intersectionality.  And the other, defining what a citizen is. 

 

That leaves us with those 5 as true Amendments (12^th, 20^th, 22^nd, 25^th, 27^th).  And this is the takeaway of this paragraph.  These 5 give the example of the scope of the kind of changes the Founding Fathers intended.  One aspect is to have government run more efficient and another is to preserve the original intent and protect our rights.  If the Founders had expected to have fundamental change, I doubt they would have even gone to the trouble.  But they did because the Constitution was designed to prevent fundamental change.

 

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They're not commandments some Semitic farmer carved to get his tribesmen to stop killing each other and spending all their money on some ****ty golden ungulate. 

As far as the government goes, the Amendments are commandments, telling the government, thou shall not infringe!  That pretty much closes the debate if the Bill of Rights can be modified or not.