Dominion Dominoes

[RavenHawk]

On 6/22/2022 at 9:06 AM, Autochthon1990 said:

"Well we cited everything, analyzed all the information carefully, and have solidly debunked this entire argument based on the facts. What do you say?" "******* CUCK! I'M NOT READING THAT BECAUSE IT'S COMMUNIST! CUCKX93 COMBO!" 

And I repeat myself again, who fact-checks the fact-checkers? No one has debunked anything.  The so-called fact-checkers follow a narrative and that has nothing to do with the facts. You ignore the facts. Why read something one has already read and it is still the same drivel which doesn’t debunk the evidence? If you had bothered analyzing the evidence carefully and if you were honest, you’d have to at the very least, acknowledge that there is something to this. It would have piqued your curiosity with the desire to seek the truth, instead of being a useful idiot espousing the narrative.

 

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This is something I can't stand about modern conservatives, it's the old 'anything that challenges the theory that there's a conspiracy must be part of the conspiracy'. When in reality, the reason they tend to call out republicans and those adjacent to them out for lying more then liberals is very, very simple.

Since it’s the Left that is running this conspiracy, anything they say *IS* part of the conspiracy.  The best way to deflect is to say your opponent is doing what you are.  It’s masterful gaslighting. Don’t worry, if everything turns out the way it is expected, this scandal and coup will be revealed and the Left and their minions brought to justice. The trust in our elections must be restored.

 

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They lie a hell of a lot more then liberals do. 

The Prick in office and his Administration has done nothing but lie to the world.

 

[RavenHawk]

On 6/22/2022 at 9:06 AM, Autochthon1990 said:

Dude, the insurrection happened live on national television. At this point it's like trying to prove the ball didn't drop in times square last year, the entire country saw it happen as it happened. 

No insurrection happened live on national television.  A riot broke out as it did 475 times in the Summer of Love the year before.  The Left calling 6 Jan an insurrection is like the Left calling an experimental drug a vaccine.  And just like the Summer of Love, Antifa tactics were seen and an added element saw government operatives giving orders.  This is the Reichstag fire and a Stalin-like show trial all rolled into one with a Red Guard running rampant in the streets.  The real insurrection, sedition, coup, usurpation is the 6 Jan committee.  That is a kangaroo court bent on destroying the Constitution.  The people see through that.  They are not as stupid as the Left thinks.  Bidet is at 38% approval rating (32% among Independents?).  I would Image at this rate, he’ll be down below 30% by November.  Which makes one wonder that if the Dems get massively swept from office, that the Resident will resign by January?  I know we’ll be jumping from the frying pan into the fire, but I would think that Congress will seize the narrative from Kamala.

 

[RavenHawk]

On 6/22/2022 at 9:07 AM, Autochthon1990 said:

Just clearing up a few misunderstandings:

 

Massive voter fraud:

I didn’t believe in massive voter fraud initially.  But you don’t need massive voter fraud.  All you need is fraud in one or two counties (3243 total) of 6 states.  But with the more and more data I see, I think fraud was massive, just in many cases, it didn’t matter.

 

Most closely watched:

From 100ft away or behind closed doors and if those doors had windows, they were card-boarded over.  That doesn’t cut it.  Observers need to be shoulder-to-shoulder with the tabulators.

 

Swing states you’re losing:

Interesting that the counting stopped at about the same time (as Sanders predicted) in these swing states when Trump had a clear lead, then by morning, Trump lost.  They needed time to consult the poll books to see how many ballots they needed to show up in the wee hours of the morning.

 

Evidence:

The evidence has been presented on this forum many times and elsewhere.  I’ve presented like 4 sources just recently.  Here’s one and I think it is an early version.

 

https://rumble.com/embed/vvu792/?pub=4

 

[RavenHawk]

On 6/22/2022 at 9:10 AM, Autochthon1990 said:

Sure, because everybody knows those persecuted by Stalin where allowed to do the talk show circuit and constantly kvetch about how their crowds are yuge. 

Try the fact that Trump has no representation, no cross examination of so-called witnesses.  Banks and Jordan would have done that.

 

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Call me when Trump gets two in the back of the head and nudged into a ditch, then you can compare what’s happening in DC at the moment to the Purges. 

In today’s world, that would be two phony impeachments.  Both times the Left missed.  The Left has emptied the clip and they still can’t hit the target.  They are incompetent.  What do you think this committee is?  The Left is so afraid of Trump and are desperate to purge him from running again.

[RavenHawk]

On 6/22/2022 at 9:33 AM, Autochthon1990 said:

Dude, you've gotta stop calling everything to the left of Regan Marxist, Marxism is a very specific thing, not a catch-all for 'anything I find not to be to my taste'

I use ‘Socialism’ as the generic term.  I use “Marxism’ to represent the form that I think is happening in this country.  I’d rather call it Maoism, but I think that as much as the Left admires Mao, they will develop an American version.  It’ll be called ‘Obamaism’.  It’s not anything to the Left of Reagan.  It is the extremes of both (There’s a narrow center).  Both pursue the same object.  Which is total control (tyranny) over the people.  In that sense (the most important one), there is no difference in the flavor.  How many times does this need to be explained to you?

 

[RavenHawk]

23 hours ago, razman said:

McCarthy and  did it to themselves anyway, they boycotted the committee / hearings.

They didn’t do anything to themselves.  They just didn’t add any fuel to the fire.  They’ve ignored it as most Americans have ignored it.  As a production goes, it’s a flop.  Why interfere with the Left making fools of themselves?

 

[RavenHawk]

21 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Why would you want to have Eichmann and Goebbels as part of the Nuremberg Tribunal instead of  facing it?

Non-sequitur response.  Firstly, this committee is far from a Nuremberg-like tribunal.  As I’ve said several times, it is a Stalin-like show trial.  But anyway, Eichmann and Goebbels *ARE* on the committee.

 

[Duke Wellington]

One of two things will happen.

The democrats will remain in power for decades, or a large group of people are going to be picking up the soap in prison. When their freedom is on the line expect all kinds of dodgy things to go on in the run up to November.

Edited June 23, 2022 by Cookie Monster

[RavenHawk]

9 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

You make a great point, her political views are certainly extreme right!

Nope!  HIS views are certainly Pro-American.  America doesn’t exist at the extremes.  If you think so, then you are outside of the narrow center band.  You’re not where America is.  And I don’t mean S Korea.

 

[RavenHawk]

8 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

There is huge difference between salesmanship and following Joseph Goebbels play book like President Trump did!

I really don’t feel sorry for you, if that is what you believe.  But it is your belief.  You can remain delusional all you want.  I think that TDS is a terminal condition.  Bidet is the one pushing the lies, he just forgets he’s reading from the playbook.

 

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This is actually what President Trump did over and over and over again! A great example of that was his last ditch effort to say the election was stolen.

It was stolen and Trump didn’t need to say a thing.  He did predict it.  It is so obvious if you bothered to pay attention.  If you’ve ever had a partner cheat on you and then try to hide it, somehow you know something is up.  Trump is very perceptive and highly intuitive; how could he not know something was up?

 

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Now, none of that has ever been proven, in fact both of his lawyers said the entire election fraud claim down to the voting machines was a COMPLETE AND UTTER LIE,

Not yet because it hasn’t been examined.  I would guess that by January, the evidence will be seriously considered.  Even if the truth is finally revealed and it doesn’t result in returning Trump to office, it will still be leverage used against the Marxists.  The evidence is plentiful but no court has looked at it.  That’s why the work of people like Bobby Piton, David Clements, and Dinesh D’Souza are important.  The lie is saying that the evidence is a lie.

 

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fake news, and totally misrepresented in an attempt to sway public opinion, which he did by again telling the lie over and over and over again.

That sounds like this 6 Jan committee.

 

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This lie caused the Capitol Insurrection to occur, and even after that here you making that out to be something it never was! 

No it didn’t.  Trump called for a peaceful demonstration.  There was no span of time allowed between a patriotic demonstration and seeing what the results were going to be.  Congress started doing its job, beginning with Arizona.  Why instigate a riot before the results were known?  Who would benefit from the certification being disrupted?  Trump Supporters?  I don’t think so.  The riot began even before Trump was done.  Antifa operatives were already staged to go on command.  The insurrection story has never held water.

 

[RavenHawk]

8 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

One of two things will happen.

The democrats will remain in power for decades, or a large group of people are going to be picking up the soap in prison. When their freedom is on the line expect all kinds of dodgy things to go on in the run up to November.

The Left will be so desperate to hang onto that power that dodgy things are guaranteed.  The question is how far will they go?  How bad will it get?

[Duke Wellington]

7 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

The Left will be so desperate to hang onto that power that dodgy things are guaranteed.  The question is how far will they go?  How bad will it get?

We will soon know what awaits, from the Democrats behaviour.

They wont be able to allow victory under any circumstances if we are right.

[+Razman]

3 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

The Left will be so desperate to hang onto that power that dodgy things are guaranteed.  The question is how far will they go?  How bad will it get?

Boy if that aint the pot calling the kettle black. Thats exactly what happened with Trump and his cronies.

[Gromdor]

Here's a silly question-

Now that Biden's poll ratings are as bad as Trump's, do you think he will be re-elected? 

If you said "No", then why do you think Trump had a chance of winning the last election?

Edited June 24, 2022 by Gromdor

[Grim Reaper 6]

5 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

I really don’t feel sorry for you, if that is what you believe.  But it is your belief.  You can remain delusional all you want.  I think that TDS is a terminal condition.  Bidet is the one pushing the lies, he just forgets he’s reading from the playbook.

First of all your name calling ( TDS ) and intentional misspelling of names ( Bidet ) is no longer allowed in conversations here. I am only trying to help you out here because obviously you are unaware of the changes!

5 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

 It was stolen and Trump didn’t need to say a thing.  He did predict it.  It is so obvious if you bothered to pay attention.  If you’ve ever had a partner cheat on you and then try to hide it, somehow you know something is up.  Trump is very perceptive and highly intuitive; how could he not know something was up?

Nothing you state above is accurate and yes he did predict it, but that was do to the fact that he planned to use that lie if he lost the election which he was very afraid of. Well, unlike your hero, I have never had a partner cheat on me so that’s a bad analogy.  

5 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

 

Not yet because it hasn’t been examined.  I would guess that by January, the evidence will be seriously considered.  Even if the truth is finally revealed and it doesn’t result in returning Trump to office, it will still be leverage used against the Marxists.  The evidence is plentiful but no court has looked at it.  That’s why the work of people like Bobby Piton, David Clements, and Dinesh D’Souza are important.  The lie is saying that the evidence is a lie.

Thanks for proving my point, about hearing a lie long enough you will believe it, well your living proof it works.

5 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

 

That sounds like this 6 Jan committee.

 

No it didn’t.  Trump called for a peaceful demonstration.  There was no span of time allowed between a patriotic demonstration and seeing what the results were going to be.  Congress started doing its job, beginning with Arizona.  Why instigate a riot before the results were known?  Who would benefit from the certification being disrupted?  Trump Supporters?  I don’t think so.  The riot began even before Trump was done.  Antifa operatives were already staged to go on command.  The insurrection story has never held water.

Again you have lost the ability to think without following the Trump narrative, I sincerely hope you wake up and start thinking for yourself. Because your comments do not match up with the National reality of the situation. The most recent poll by a reputable polling organization Quinnipiac. So again I am unable to agree with your personal narrative and apparently neither do the American people. 

1.  64% of America believe that the Capital Insurrection was planned.

2.  Nearly 6 in 10 Americans think former President Trump bears a lot (41 percent) or some (18 percent) of the responsibility for the storming of the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021, while 39 percent say he bears not much of the responsibility (14 percent) or none at all (25 percent). The results are mostly unchanged from a January 12, 2022 Quinnipiac University poll.

3.  Americans are split about whether or not they think former President Donald Trump committed a crime with his efforts to change the results of the 2020 presidential election, with 46 percent saying he did commit a crime and 47 percent saying he did not commit a crime. The results are essentially unchanged from an April 6, 2022 Quinnipiac University poll.

4.  A majority of Americans (58 percent) say they are following news about the work of the January 6 congressional committee very closely (26 percent) or somewhat closely (32 percent) and 41 percent say they are following news about the work of the committee not so closely (17 percent) or not closely at all (24 percent).

5.  A vast majority of Americans (77 percent) think extremism from within the country is the bigger threat to the United States rather than extremism from another country, while 17 percent think extremism from another country is the bigger threat to the United States rather than extremism from within the country. The findings are similar across all listed groups.

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3850

5 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

 

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 hours ago, Gromdor said:

Here's a silly question-

Now that Biden's poll ratings are as bad as Trump's, do you think he will be re-elected? 

If you said "No", then why do you think Trump had a chance of winning the last election?

In reality I don’t think Trump had a great chance of being re-elected in the last election. The reason he lost the election was actually the same reason he won previously and was because of the Christian vote. The reason Trump choose Pence as his running mate was because Pence was able to bring the both Political and Evangelical Christian credibility to their ticket. Without Pence he may have still won but not by the margins he did in 2016. Now, I am certain many of my Republican brethren will disagree and still continue to claim that this isn’t true and that the election was stolen.

They will even claim Trump predicted that the Democrats were going to steal the election before the election even happened. While yes it is true that Trump said in early 2020 that the election would be stolen, it wasn’t a premonition or anything else, Trump made that statement because he knew he had lost the majority of the Christian vote and he planned to use the claim concerning election fraud in case he did loss. So in reality Trumps loss had nothing to with election fraud and everything to do with the loss of the Christian vote. 

Trump's VP: Mike Pence brings political and evangelical credibility to ticket, article date is 15 July 2016: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/15/mike-pence-donald-trump-vice-president-conservative-christian

Evangelical voters help put Trump in the White House. They also helped deny him a second term article date 20 November 2020:  https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-loss-support-biden-evangelicals-election-polls-religion-2020-11

 

[RavenHawk]

8 hours ago, razman said:

Boy if that aint the pot calling the kettle black. Thats exactly what happened with Trump and his cronies.

*snip* Trump had made this economy robust enough to withstand this pLandemic.  We had that strong “V”-shaped recovery.  Even though it was fear caused by the Left that drove the crisis rather than the virus, with a survivability rate of over 98%.  Fear is always the killer.  All this little prick needed to do was to follow Trump’s policies and we would be soaring right now.  But what is it that we have now?  Loss of energy independence, workforce participation down, mean household income down, inflation, supply-chain hold ups, increasing gas and food prices, coming food shortages, coming rolling black outs.  The border is wide open.  Who knows what is coming into this nation?  Our allies and enemies are all laughing at us.  Under Trump, peace was breaking out, now we are on the verge of WWIII.  Are you ok with all of that?  Jimmy Carter is smiling right now because he knows that he is no longer the worse President in history.

 

 

Edited June 24, 2022 by Saru
Removed personal attack

[Autochthon1990]

11 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

I use ‘Socialism’ as the generic term.  I use “Marxism’ to represent the form that I think is happening in this country.  I’d rather call it Maoism, but I think that as much as the Left admires Mao, they will develop an American version.  It’ll be called ‘Obamaism’.  It’s not anything to the Left of Reagan.  It is the extremes of both (There’s a narrow center).  Both pursue the same object.  Which is total control (tyranny) over the people.  In that sense (the most important one), there is no difference in the flavor.  How many times does this need to be explained to you?

 

Not even wrong - RationalWiki

[Autochthon1990]

11 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

Try the fact that Trump has no representation, no cross examination of so-called witnesses.  Banks and Jordan would have done that.

No he has representation, but he would be better off without it. Frankly the guy is already working with a drippy, farting, m********ion-addicted alcoholic for a lawyer. 

[Autochthon1990]

11 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

In today’s world, that would be two phony impeachments.  Both times the Left missed.  The Left has emptied the clip and they still can’t hit the target.  They are incompetent.  What do you think this committee is?  The Left is so afraid of Trump and are desperate to purge him from running again.

...For one, you're aware most handgun clips have at least six rounds, yes? Furthermore, those weren't phony, he got let off by the GOP. Man could be caught balls deep in a bald eagle while throttling mike pence and they'd still vote to acquit because they're...yknow, traitors. 

[Autochthon1990]

11 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

Just clearing up a few misunderstandings:

 

Massive voter fraud:

I didn’t believe in massive voter fraud initially.  But you don’t need massive voter fraud.  All you need is fraud in one or two counties (3243 total) of 6 states.  But with the more and more data I see, I think fraud was massive, just in many cases, it didn’t matter.

 

Most closely watched:

From 100ft away or behind closed doors and if those doors had windows, they were card-boarded over.  That doesn’t cut it.  Observers need to be shoulder-to-shoulder with the tabulators.

 

Swing states you’re losing:

Interesting that the counting stopped at about the same time (as Sanders predicted) in these swing states when Trump had a clear lead, then by morning, Trump lost.  They needed time to consult the poll books to see how many ballots they needed to show up in the wee hours of the morning.

 

Evidence:

The evidence has been presented on this forum many times and elsewhere.  I’ve presented like 4 sources just recently.  Here’s one and I think it is an early version.

 

https://rumble.com/embed/vvu792/?pub=4

 

And do you have an actual proof for any of that, beyond yknow, a URL that nobody's ever heard of with no cited sources? Also, this stuff has been refuted a thousand times since 2020, ****s sake man, you can google this yknow. 

[Autochthon1990]

11 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

No insurrection happened live on national television.  A riot broke out as it did 475 times in the Summer of Love the year before.  The Left calling 6 Jan an insurrection is like the Left calling an experimental drug a vaccine.  And just like the Summer of Love, Antifa tactics were seen and an added element saw government operatives giving orders.  This is the Reichstag fire and a Stalin-like show trial all rolled into one with a Red Guard running rampant in the streets.  The real insurrection, sedition, coup, usurpation is the 6 Jan committee.  That is a kangaroo court bent on destroying the Constitution.  The people see through that.  They are not as stupid as the Left thinks.  Bidet is at 38% approval rating (32% among Independents?).  I would Image at this rate, he’ll be down below 30% by November.  Which makes one wonder that if the Dems get massively swept from office, that the Resident will resign by January?  I know we’ll be jumping from the frying pan into the fire, but I would think that Congress will seize the narrative from Kamala.

 

It turns out that when cops are allowed to extrajudicially executed black people without any real consequences, they get just a /wee/ bit p***ed off. Whodathunk it? You've never given me a satisfactory answer to 'what else where they supposed to do'? My people did the same goddamn thing in Warsaw back in the day, sure the Nazis where worse, but minorities are still being killed by the state without much in the way of repercussions. You want to be mad at government tyranny? THAT is government tyranny. 

Until you get exactly has mad when the losing team flips over cars and sets them on fire after any major sporting event, shut up. It's painfully transparent that you don't care about the riots happening at all, you care that black people where doing them to fight injustice because you're worried things might have to actually change if this keeps up. And, no, that's a congressional investigatory committee, which is perfectly legal and bipartisan. You just don't like that your guy might actually have to pay for a crime for the first time in his life because if Donald Trump loses, well that's gonna lead to terminal worldview collapse right there. 

 

[Autochthon1990]

11 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

And I repeat myself again, who fact-checks the fact-checkers? No one has debunked anything.  The so-called fact-checkers follow a narrative and that has nothing to do with the facts. You ignore the facts. Why read something one has already read and it is still the same drivel which doesn’t debunk the evidence? If you had bothered analyzing the evidence carefully and if you were honest, you’d have to at the very least, acknowledge that there is something to this. It would have piqued your curiosity with the desire to seek the truth, instead of being a useful idiot espousing the narrative.

...Other fact checkers check it. You do realize there's not just ONE fact checker, right? There are many from across the world that analyze stuff, and here's a hint, if all of them come back with the same or similar levels of 'this **** is true', then it's probably true. It's not hard to puzzle out. And...no, there's nothing to it, you just desperately want there to be because your worldview doesn't jive with reality. Instead of assuming that your worldview is flawed, you assume that reality itself must be wrong. Which...yknow, sort of isn't good and leads me to think you might want to get checked for Narcissistic Personality Disorder the next time you see a therapist. 

 

11 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

Since it’s the Left that is running this conspiracy, anything they say *IS* part of the conspiracy.  The best way to deflect is to say your opponent is doing what you are.  It’s masterful gaslighting. Don’t worry, if everything turns out the way it is expected, this scandal and coup will be revealed and the Left and their minions brought to justice. The trust in our elections must be restored.

 

We've analyzed it from every possible angle dozens of times per election, and they all came back the same way: You lost. 

Accept it, get over it, and live with it. There's only so many times you can do the same thing before it starts coming off a wee bit insane, I mean for chrissakes, even your vaunted 'cyber ninjas' didn't find anything. 

11 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

The Prick in office and his Administration has done nothing but lie to the world.

You gonna shut up now, or am I gonna have to keep fact checking until you learn to read? 


 

[+Razman]

7 hours ago, RavenHawk said:

*snip* Trump had made this economy robust enough to withstand this pLandemic.  We had that strong “V”-shaped recovery.  Even though it was fear caused by the Left that drove the crisis rather than the virus, with a survivability rate of over 98%.  Fear is always the killer.  All this little prick needed to do was to follow Trump’s policies and we would be soaring right now.  But what is it that we have now?  Loss of energy independence, workforce participation down, mean household income down, inflation, supply-chain hold ups, increasing gas and food prices, coming food shortages, coming rolling black outs.  The border is wide open.  Who knows what is coming into this nation?  Our allies and enemies are all laughing at us.  Under Trump, peace was breaking out, now we are on the verge of WWIII.  Are you ok with all of that?  Jimmy Carter is smiling right now because he knows that he is no longer the worse President in history.

 

 

Other than the border being open which i agree with, the other things are not Bidens fault , most of that stuff is worldwide , and / or fallout from the pandemic. Also you call the Jan 6 hearing some kind of one sided thing , but all i see is they are testifying under oath. Even Trumps teams right up to the top , can you not see by what they are testifying , what Trump did? And yes , in a way it is exactly this ----The Left will be so desperate to hang onto that power that dodgy things are guaranteed.  The question is how far will they go?  How bad will it get? Thats exactly what happened with Trump and his cronies, what they did.

Edited June 24, 2022 by razman

[+Razman]

 You can say this in a way , " Even though it was fear caused by the Left that drove the crisis rather than the virus, with a survivability rate of over 98% " , but another way to look at it is a 2% fatality rate makes it 20 times more deadly than the flu , and looking at it by the US population , 320 something million , then maybe 700,000 to 1.5 million or more will die. Tell the 98% survival rate to my friends who have died from it with no underlying conditions in their early 50's , or one of those people in that figure mentioned above. Me and my family just had it and my 15 year old daughter had a fever for 4 days straight , which reached 103.7 at one point. Its not just about you and me , there is a whole country and whole world out there.

Edited June 24, 2022 by razman