Eldorado Posted June 22, 2022 #1 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Urgent action is needed to prevent a ‘mass exodus’ of 19,000 GPs over the next five years, health leaders warned yesterday. The Royal College of GPs said almost half of family doctors are planning to quit by 2027 in a major threat to patient care. It insists general practice is ‘significantly under-staffed, under-funded and overworked’, leaving the service and profession ‘in crisis’. The warning comes after a college survey of more than 1,250 GPs and trainees revealed 42 per cent expect to leave the profession in the coming five years. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/familyhealth/warning-over-mass-exodus-of-19-000-gps-as-nearly-half-of-family-doctors-plan-to-quit-by-2027/ar-AAYIpa8? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted June 22, 2022 #2 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Not sure about the maths there. If half have left by the end of 2027, how many will have qualified and taken their place in that time? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted June 22, 2022 Author #3 Share Posted June 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, ouija ouija said: Not sure about the maths there. If half have left by the end of 2027, how many will have qualified and taken their place in that time? If it was more than enough then I doubt the Royal College of GPs would be as concerned about it as they are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted June 22, 2022 #4 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Eldorado said: If it was more than enough then I doubt the Royal College of GPs would be as concerned about it as they are. Hmm, or shock tactics to get more pay? Didn't they have a pay rise and a reduction in hours a couple of years back? Just because that many say they will leave doesn't mean to say they will. If they quit, how many of them will be able to find other jobs with the same pay? Unless, of course, they've already stashed away enough to retire at 45/50 . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted June 22, 2022 Author #5 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, ouija ouija said: Hmm, or shock tactics to get more pay? Didn't they have a pay rise and a reduction in hours a couple of years back? Just because that many say they will leave doesn't mean to say they will. If they quit, how many of them will be able to find other jobs with the same pay? Unless, of course, they've already stashed away enough to retire at 45/50 . You reckon most doctors are self-serving BSers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted June 22, 2022 #6 Share Posted June 22, 2022 If they do....how will we know? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted June 22, 2022 #7 Share Posted June 22, 2022 That's probably not good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted June 22, 2022 #8 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Eldorado said: You reckon most doctors are self-serving BSers? Let's just say a) they're not perfect and b) as with all other walks of life there are good 'uns and there are not so good 'uns. Over the years I've learned that they are not the gods we were led to believe they were when we were young. Yes, I have become cynical! Edited June 22, 2022 by ouija ouija 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted June 22, 2022 #9 Share Posted June 22, 2022 How much does a GP earn UK 2021? From 1 April 2021*, the pay range for salaried GPs is £62,268 to £93,965. Each practice has a number of practitioners, and in the case of 'GP partners', these practitioners jointly own the practice. GP partners therefore can earn very high salaries when their practices perform especially well. If you move from GP to consultancy. As a consultant from 1 April 2021, you'll earn a basic salary of £84,559 to £114,003 per year*, depending on the length of your service. Consultants can also supplement their salary by working in private practice if they wish. https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/doctors/pay-doctors/pay-doctors 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted June 22, 2022 #10 Share Posted June 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said: How much does a GP earn UK 2021? From 1 April 2021*, the pay range for salaried GPs is £62,268 to £93,965. Each practice has a number of practitioners, and in the case of 'GP partners', these practitioners jointly own the practice. GP partners therefore can earn very high salaries when their practices perform especially well. If you move from GP to consultancy. As a consultant from 1 April 2021, you'll earn a basic salary of £84,559 to £114,003 per year*, depending on the length of your service. Consultants can also supplement their salary by working in private practice if they wish. https://www.healthcareers.nhs.uk/explore-roles/doctors/pay-doctors/pay-doctors Dam. That's severely unpaid by US standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted June 22, 2022 #11 Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, spartan max2 said: Dam. That's severely unpaid by US standards I would not be surprised, if true. But the details of the US medical system are a mystery to me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted June 22, 2022 #12 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said: I would not be surprised, if true. But the details of the US medical system are a mystery to me. Don't worry. It's a mystery to all of us lol Edited June 22, 2022 by spartan max2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted June 30, 2022 Author #13 Share Posted June 30, 2022 The shortage of GPs in England is set to become worse, with more than one in four posts predicted to be vacant within a decade, an analysis suggests. The Health Foundation study said the current 4,200 shortfall could rise to more than 10,000 by 2030-31. The think tank believes the government will struggle to increase the number of GPs, while demand will continue to rise - creating a bigger shortfall. The government has promised to recruit 6,000 extra GPs by 2024. But ministers have admitted they are struggling to achieve that. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61986441 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autistocrates Posted June 30, 2022 #14 Share Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/22/2022 at 11:00 AM, ouija ouija said: ...If half have left by the end of 2027, how many will have qualified and taken their place in that time? No need to worry, since there is a continual influx of doctors, rocket scientists and astrophysicists entering the country on nearly a daily basis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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