Real ancient mysteries (not Atlantis) that we need to discuss!

[Hanslune]

13 hours ago, Manwon Lender said:

That’s very interesting story, and it’s amazing that even after a few hundred years that their plight was still known.

Thanks very much for sharing, it’s always a good day to learn something new! 

Yep, its a mystery as to what happened to them. They did perhaps inspire Prince Henry to try to get around Africa and on to India and may have led, ultimately to de Gama making it.

[Hanslune]

7 hours ago, Abramelin said:

I once started a thread about it.

Well if you could find it and necro it, it might be of interest.

All we have for HE being here is very thin.

https://phys.org/news/2017-04-humans-america-years-earlier-thought.html

Edited June 24, 2022 by Hanslune

[Hanslune]

29 minutes ago, Harte said:

Any further "mysteries?"

Harte

You are the oldest fringe hunter here I believe by several centuries. So what non-woo made you go d'uh or what?

[Piney]

5 hours ago, Thanos5150 said:

For anyone to make it to the Americas by way of the Bearing Straight they would need the ability to make and maintain tailored clothes included foot, head, and hand coverings, have a broad tool kit (made of different materials like ivory and bone) including needles, fishhooks, and lines, the ability to store and travel with weeks of food, able to make fire at will and bring along enough fuel for weeks of travel, etc etc. 

 

It not just the crossing of the Bearing Straight but the journey across hundred and hundreds of miles through some of the most inhospitable climate on the planet, on both sides, just to be able to do it in the first place let alone survive after the fact. As far as there not being "good evidence" to support the notion Erectus making it to the Americas, there is actually no evidence nor any evidence to suggest he was capable of making the journey even if he tried.      

I did think the Neanderthals could sew well though. At least in the North.

[Piney]

2 hours ago, Harte said:

Since you made it easy for me, I'll take a crack at these.

Who knows? And how does it matter?

If you're asking does the treasure exist, I'd say that it probably once did.

Probably. On Earth, anyway.

He was that guy in Merry Old England that went around slaughtering prostitutes.

That's three questions. No fair.

No.

Tony Stark

A failed sitcom that tried to rip off "The Big Bang Theory."

This is two questions as well. The answer to the second is, well, obviously.

Yes, they were wireless.

Invented to power vibrating chastity belts.

A friendly ghost.

Any further "mysteries?"

Harte

Where's a Chick-fil-A that's open on Sunday?

[Grim Reaper 6]

6 hours ago, Harte said:

It starts out with

so not only is it nonsense, it's not even decent sarcasm.

Harte

Thank you for correcting this, I appreciate and respect your knowledge on the subject.

[flashman7870]

4 hours ago, Piney said:

I did think the Neanderthals could sew well though. At least in the North.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-61839-w

[Abramelin]

8 hours ago, Hanslune said:

Well if you could find it and necro it, it might be of interest.

All we have for HE being here is very thin.

https://phys.org/news/2017-04-humans-america-years-earlier-thought.html

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/340792-homo-erectus-or-neanderthalensis-in-america/

[Grim Reaper 6]

16 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/340792-homo-erectus-or-neanderthalensis-in-america/

This was a great thread, I remember it!

 

[Grim Reaper 6]

51 minutes ago, Abramelin said:

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/340792-homo-erectus-or-neanderthalensis-in-america/

Here is a journal that appears to show that Neanderthals survived up until approximately 25,000 years ago. I was under the impression that they had died out between 35,000 and 40,000 years ago, Yet apparently this journal from 2008 disputes that.

Gorham's Cave, Gibraltar—The persistence of a Neanderthal population:  https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Gorham's+Cave%2C+Gibraltar—The+persistence+of+a+Neanderthal&btnG=

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1040618207003722?via%3Dihub

Edited June 25, 2022 by Manwon Lender

[cormac mac airt]

13 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Here is a journal that appears to show that Neanderthals survived up until approximately 25,000 years ago. I was under the impression that they had died out between 35,000 and 40,000 years ago, Yet apparently this journal from 2008 disputes that.

Gorham's Cave, Gibraltar—The persistence of a Neanderthal population: https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/47624174/Gorhams_Cave_GibraltarThe_persistence_o20160729-19431-mj3lg1-with-cover-page-v2.pdf?Expires=1656134017&Signature=FORb6LwRXXq122NSUalU0m9gJb-IymHpNSpbkr3mZtVZYMevMYS9wf5Rk6~jMLMscOwBvxTv4D0P6uy1UVhT4SQnTz~1fC5JBwjjo2Jd6c5f2mQVTnMxSyAjixTw-n0tqrEvjhtp4fdyItTk54QgLUiWAEogUyLogaxG0XaQ5kBawGmsJvENp0DfA8MHLnl8znThqeJUBKKwB7xGV~TnvDVcYwdFGFKIVfAh8V6R~WW24bSpPWI0i4YQIrQJh0joeDYjdYhGOSsy~dn9IcUa05xtS87mUav0iHxvskxekC201~I0O7JH1pYJk8rjaRBlGxGpoUWhe8XdmdA0s80xMg__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA

Manwon, it’s superseded by the 2014 paper “The timing and spatiotemporal patterning of Neanderthal disappearance” (Published 20 August 2014). This puts the end circa 40,000 BP. 
 

cormac

Edited June 25, 2022 by cormac mac airt

[Thanos5150]

7 hours ago, Piney said:

I did think the Neanderthals could sew well though. At least in the North.

Other than the ambiguous needle found in a Denisova cave, likely Denisovan though inhabited by both (Homo sapiens as well), there is no evidence I am aware of Neanderthals could sew with some arguing sewing and the invention of the needle that gave Homo sapiens a distinct advantage. It has been argued they may have used twisted fiber string. 

Edited June 25, 2022 by Thanos5150

[Grim Reaper 6]

15 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Manwon, it’s superseded by the 2014 paper “The timing and spatiotemporal patterning of Neanderthal disappearance” (Published 20 August 2014). This puts the end circa 40,000 BP. 
 

cormac

Is there a reference to the first paper that says it’s superseded because I somehow missed it.

Thanks for your help

Gorham's Cave, Gibraltar—The persistence of a Neanderthal population:  https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Gorham's+Cave%2C+Gibraltar—The+persistence+of+a+Neanderthal&btnG=

The timing and spatiotemporal patterning of Neanderthal disappearance: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature13621

[cormac mac airt]

1 minute ago, Manwon Lender said:

Is there a reference to the first paper that says it’s superseded because I somehow missed it.

Thanks for your help

Gorham's Cave, Gibraltar—The persistence of a Neanderthal population:  https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=Gorham's+Cave%2C+Gibraltar—The+persistence+of+a+Neanderthal&btnG=

The timing and spatiotemporal patterning of Neanderthal disappearance: https://www.nature.com/articles/nature13621

Sorry, superseded in the sense that newer discoveries and dating techniques have shown the older claim faulty. 
 

cormac

[Grim Reaper 6]

5 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Sorry, superseded in the sense that newer discoveries and dating techniques have shown the older claim faulty. 
 

cormac

Thank you very much, I am a little slow on the uptake but now I understand!

Thanks very much!

[cormac mac airt]

6 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said:

Thank you very much, I am a little slow on the uptake but now I understand!

Thanks very much!

No problem. The paper I linked says the researchers involved COULD NOT reproduce the younger dates from Gorham’s Cave. 
 

cormac

Edited June 25, 2022 by cormac mac airt
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[Grim Reaper 6]

26 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

No problem. The paper I linked says the researchers involved COULD NOT reproduce the younger dates from Gorham’s Cave. 
 

cormac

Thanks man, I will go back and look for that but either way I trust your results and thoughts on the subject!

[Ell]

On 6/23/2022 at 2:44 AM, Nobu said:

Eye of the Sahara.

Quote

As erosion took its toll on the igneous rocks and sandstones, and as the dome subsided, circular ridges were left behind, giving the Richat Structure its sunken circular shape. Today, the eye is somewhat sunken below the level of the surrounding landscapes. 

https://www.thoughtco.com/eye-of-the-sahara-4164093

I perceive it as a cauldron. The winds would go round and round in this cauldron, sandblasting its interior.

[Harte]

12 hours ago, Piney said:

Where's a Chick-fil-A that's open on Sunday?

Right across the street from your local Blockbuster Video.

Harte

[Harte]

16 hours ago, Hanslune said:

Well if you could find it and necro it, it might be of interest.

All we have for HE being here is very thin.

https://phys.org/news/2017-04-humans-america-years-earlier-thought.html

The last thing I read (2020) about Ceruti was promising.
Two stones fuel debate over when America’s first settlers arrived | Science News

Harte

[Piney]

5 hours ago, Ell said:

I perceive it as a cauldron. The winds would go round and round in this cauldron, sandblasting its interior.

That makes sense. The domes I know of on the US North Eastern Seaboard are underwater or buried by glacial deposits.

[Nobu]

10 hours ago, Ell said:

I perceive it as a cauldron. The winds would go round and round in this cauldron, sandblasting its interior.

I like that. 

[Trelane]

2 hours ago, Nobu said:

I like that. 

The Richat Structure is a really incredible surface feature. 

[jethrofloyd]

* Is there any real mystery of the crystal skulls, or are they just a hoax?

 

Edited June 25, 2022 by jethrofloyd

[Piney]

22 minutes ago, jethrofloyd said:

* Is there any real mystery of the crystal skulls, or are they just a hoax?

 

Bogus to the crystal bone.