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Jacob Rees-Mogg triggers alarm with Brexit plan for sparkling wine in plastic bottles


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Along with over-powered vacuum cleaners (which no manufacturer will make as they will limit overseas sales), blue passports (which we could have had anyway), crown marks on glasses (which we already had), vendors selling goods in pounds and ounces only (which no one will do as it adds costs and complications), our Minister for Brexit Opportunities is now alarming manufacturers with the idea of selling sparkling wine in plastic bottles. The UK is becoming dizzy with all the opportunies broken, Brexit Britain may be able to enjoy post Brexit!

The UK drinks industry has responded with alarm to a proposal from Jacob Rees-Mogg that post-Brexit deregulation could include allowing sparkling wine to be sold in plastic bottles.

The Brexit opportunities minister identified a rule requiring fizz to be sold in glass bottles as one of the Brussels regulations which could be expunged from UK law following EU withdrawal.

But the Wine and Spirits Trade Association warned that any change must not jettison health and safety requirements, with the high pressure created by bubbles during fermentation making plastic an improbable and expensive choice of container.

Rees-Mogg triggers alarm with Brexit plan for sparkling wine in plastic bottles | The Independent

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2 hours ago, The Silver Shroud said:

Along with over-powered vacuum cleaners (which no manufacturer will make as they will limit overseas sales), blue passports (which we could have had anyway), crown marks on glasses (which we already had), vendors selling goods in pounds and ounces only (which no one will do as it adds costs and complications), our Minister for Brexit Opportunities is now alarming manufacturers with the idea of selling sparkling wine in plastic bottles. The UK is becoming dizzy with all the opportunies broken, Brexit Britain may be able to enjoy post Brexit!

The UK drinks industry has responded with alarm to a proposal from Jacob Rees-Mogg that post-Brexit deregulation could include allowing sparkling wine to be sold in plastic bottles.

The Brexit opportunities minister identified a rule requiring fizz to be sold in glass bottles as one of the Brussels regulations which could be expunged from UK law following EU withdrawal.

But the Wine and Spirits Trade Association warned that any change must not jettison health and safety requirements, with the high pressure created by bubbles during fermentation making plastic an improbable and expensive choice of container.

Rees-Mogg triggers alarm with Brexit plan for sparkling wine in plastic bottles | The Independent

It does provide extra choice. Something which is a bad idea apparently. :huh:

What it does highlight is the EU's fascination with largely inconsequential rules that take months or years to pass through the Brussels rule factory and at huge expense. In an attempt to justify their own existence. 

If this UK change is thought to be not worth the bother then introducing the rule in the first place must also be considered not worth legislating for and if a plastic bottle of coke can be made safe to transport then I doubt if fizzy wine will be an insurmountable problem. :yes:

The fact is no one will be forced to change their arrangements, which was not the case with any plastic bottle users, when the EU rule was introduced. 

The article is a scaremongering piece trying to show UK is reducing standards, which is not the case. :rolleyes:

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1 hour ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

It does provide extra choice. Something which is a bad idea apparently. :huh:

What it does highlight is the EU's fascination with largely inconsequential rules that take months or years to pass through the Brussels rule factory and at huge expense. In an attempt to justify their own existence. 

If this UK change is thought to be not worth the bother then introducing the rule in the first place must also be considered not worth legislating for and if a plastic bottle of coke can be made safe to transport then I doubt if fizzy wine will be an insurmountable problem. :yes:

The fact is no one will be forced to change their arrangements, which was not the case with any plastic bottle users, when the EU rule was introduced. 

The article is a scaremongering piece trying to show UK is reducing standards, which is not the case. :rolleyes:

Rees Mogg is lying once again. The EU has always sold wine in plastic bottles. What the EU is concerned about is single- use plastic bottles. Here is "news" from 2010: Waitrose to sell wine in plastic bottles - letsrecycle.com

Rees Mogg is so desperate to find Brexit Benefits that he pretends the UK is now free to do something it was always free to do- just like the crown stamps on pints and traders labelling their products in pounds and ounces. 

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"The article is a scaremongering piece trying to show UK is reducing standards, which is not the case."

And by the 'Independent' which is one rung down from the Guardian.

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1 hour ago, The Silver Shroud said:

Rees Mogg is lying once again. The EU has always sold wine in plastic bottles. What the EU is concerned about is single- use plastic bottles. Here is "news" from 2010: Waitrose to sell wine in plastic bottles - letsrecycle.com

Rees Mogg is so desperate to find Brexit Benefits that he pretends the UK is now free to do something it was always free to do- just like the crown stamps on pints and traders labelling their products in pounds and ounces. 

There are already rules in place regards the desirability of using recycled bottles in UK, why would this change normal industry practice.

Are they going to force folks to use non recyclable plastic bottles ? I don't think so. 

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They've been selling all sorts of wine in cardboard boxes for the last 20 years.   Hold the front page....damn Broken Brexit Britain

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Ardent Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg has been ridiculed after claiming that being able to choose what phone chargers we use in the UK is a Brexit benefit.

Since our departure from the European Union, it has been a struggle to see what the much-promised positive impact has been.

According to Ryanair boss Michael O’Leary, as well as the Mayor of London Sadiq Khan, Brexit has been “completely” to blame for causing recent travel chaos.

Now, it seems some in government who supported the move are clutching at straws to show examples of alleged success to come from the country’s revoking its EU membership.

Jacob Rees-Mogg mocked after saying phone chargers are a 'Brexit benefit' (msn.com)

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1 hour ago, itsnotoutthere said:

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They've been selling all sorts of wine in cardboard boxes for the last 20 years.   Hold the front page....damn Broken Brexit Britain

You are making my point, Rees Mogg is just lying again.

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26 minutes ago, The Silver Shroud said:

Ardent Brexiteer Jacob Rees-Mogg has been ridiculed after claiming that being able to choose what phone chargers we use in the UK is a Brexit benefit.

Since our departure from the European Union, it has been a struggle to see what the much-promised positive impact has been.

According to Ryanair boss Michael O’Leary, as well as the Mayor of London Sadiq Khan, Brexit has been “completely” to blame for causing recent travel chaos.

Now, it seems some in government who supported the move are clutching at straws to show examples of alleged success to come from the country’s revoking its EU membership.

Jacob Rees-Mogg mocked after saying phone chargers are a 'Brexit benefit' (msn.com)

The EU's move to push tech companies to use common USB-C chargers instead of proprietary chargers is a good one, this isn't something that the UK government should be trying to stop.

Proprietary chargers are anti-consumer, wasteful and serve only to generate more money for big tech companies.

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Guys just admit it: You ****ed up, you made a stupid choice, and you shouldn't have listened to a racist bus over every expert in the field. Once that's done, reapply to the EU and stop humiliating yourself by acting like you did when you still had an empire. You're not that special, and only really matter as part of a larger union, sure it sounds cruel, but it's the same thing we tell Texans over here when they kvetch about federal law stopping them from doing whatever awful thing they want to try, I think it was hunting gays for sport last week 

(That last bit is a joke, but only barely)

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6 hours ago, Saru said:

The EU's move to push tech companies to use common USB-C chargers instead of proprietary chargers is a good one, this isn't something that the UK government should be trying to stop.

Proprietary chargers are anti-consumer, wasteful and serve only to generate more money for big tech companies.

It is difficult to decide whether he is just stupid, or just taking us to be more stupid than he is:

So the Moggster reached into his back pocket and pulled out charger, literally.

He told the House that: “Thankfully, we left the EU before it decided to mandate what sort of phone chargers we can have.

“A typically short-termiest and anti-innovation measure which will only have a long-term negative effect on consumers.”

You will admit it’s a biggy, six years of economic decline but it’s all been worth it for this. We dodged a bullet here.

Rees-Mogg mocked for saying phone chargers are a 'Brexit benefit' (thelondoneconomic.com)

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10 hours ago, The Silver Shroud said:

“A typically short-termiest and anti-innovation measure which will only have a long-term negative effect on consumers.”

I mentioned in another thread about the online protection bill that politicians are making laws concerning technologies that they do not understand.

Standardizing charging cables will have the exact opposite effect of what he is suggesting here.

Resisting efforts to shift to USB-C is more of a Brexit point-scoring exercise than something that will actually benefit consumers.

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16 hours ago, Autochthon1990 said:

Guys just admit it: You ****ed up, you made a stupid choice, and you shouldn't have listened to a racist bus over every expert in the field. Once that's done, reapply to the EU and stop humiliating yourself by acting like you did when you still had an empire. You're not that special, and only really matter as part of a larger union, sure it sounds cruel, but it's the same thing we tell Texans over here when they kvetch about federal law stopping them from doing whatever awful thing they want to try, I think it was hunting gays for sport last week 

(That last bit is a joke, but only barely)

Why is it "a stupid choice" to want to get out of a European political union that nobody ever even voted to join in the first place, but has been imposed on us through stealth without our consent?

Don't forget, the whole structure of the political monstrosity more commonly known as the EU, how it works and its aims, was designed by Altiero Spinelli, a founding father of the EU and a former member of the Italian Communist Party, who the EU itself describes in their mini bio of him on their own website as being "an unrelenting federalist."
 
It was Spinelli who drew up the 'Draft Treaty Establishing the European Union', in which he set out the focus of his federalist vision of Europe.... which, amongst other things, included the ending of nation-states. The so-called 'Spinelli Plan' was adopted by the EU's fake Parliament with an overwhelming majority in February 1984, and provided the basis for the 'Single European Act' of 1986 and 'The Maastricht Treaty' of 1992, the Treaty that created the European Union.
 
The whole EU doctrine is to slowly dismantle the very concept of individual nations in an obvious attempt to emulate a Soviet Union in Europe, and you're condemning those that have voted against it?
 
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3 minutes ago, So Far Away said:

The whole EU doctrine is to slowly dismantle the very concept of individual nations

Even if that were true, which it's not, ya'll are a federation, is that /really/ the worst idea anybody's ever have given the two most deadly wars in human history where fought over european nationalism? 

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3 minutes ago, So Far Away said:

Why is it "a stupid choice" to want to get out of a European political union that nobody ever even voted to join in the first place, but has been imposed on us through stealth without our consent?

Don't forget, the whole structure of the political monstrosity more commonly known as the EU, how it works and its aims, was designed by Altiero Spinelli, a founding father of the EU and a former member of the Italian Communist Party, who the EU itself describes in their mini bio of him on their own website as being "an unrelenting federalist."
 
It was Spinelli who drew up the 'Draft Treaty Establishing the European Union', in which he set out the focus of his federalist vision of Europe.... which, amongst other things, included the ending of nation-states. The so-called 'Spinelli Plan' was adopted by the EU's fake Parliament with an overwhelming majority in February 1984, and provided the basis for the 'Single European Act' of 1986 and 'The Maastricht Treaty' of 1992, the Treaty that created the European Union.
 
The whole EU doctrine is to slowly dismantle the very concept of individual nations in an obvious attempt to emulate a Soviet Union in Europe, and you're condemning those that have voted against it?
 

You have been brain-washed, so that you think the opposite of reality. Read this, and then come back to the thread:Britain and Russia are enemies in Ukraine – but both want to disrupt Europe | Caroline de Gruyter | The Guardian

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4 minutes ago, Autochthon1990 said:

Even if that were true, which it's not, ya'll are a federation, is that /really/ the worst idea anybody's ever have given the two most deadly wars in human history where fought over european nationalism? 

So Far Away has been indocrinated by people who want to live in the far,far past where nations were belligerant and competed for resources, instead of co-cooperating to maximise resources. It annoys me that people spout nonsense which they have probably heard in the pub, and value more than considered judgement.

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4 minutes ago, The Silver Shroud said:

You have been brain-washed, so that you think the opposite of reality. Read this, and then come back to the thread:Britain and Russia are enemies in Ukraine – but both want to disrupt Europe | Caroline de Gruyter | The Guardian

You call me brainwashed, and then subsequently proceed to post a link to an opinion piece published in the blatantly UK-bashing pro-EU Guardian. And you can't see the irony.!! I'll take anything anyone in the Guardian has to say with a grain of salt the size of The Dead Sea.

What you Remoaners fail to understand is that the EU is a political project that is being very slowly cooked. So slowly, most people, like yourself, don't even notice what is happening. In another forty or so years, when it is ready to come out of the oven, the EU will be a totalitarian state. A soft totalitarian state maybe, but a totalitarian state nonetheless, where every single aspect of your life, even down to how much tax you pay, will be decided by people who you will never be able to remove from office at the Ballot Box because they will never even stand for election in the first place. And if you don't like any of their policies, there will be nothing you or anyone else can do about it, as there will be absolutely no way of holding them to account.

Don't believe me? Well, in a little over 40 years the EEC has morphed, through stealth and without our consent, from what was merely a trading bloc between half a dozen countries with similar sized economies, into the present political monstrosity more commonly known as the EU. Just imagine what it will be like in another 40 years... truly frightening, and you are blindly sleepwalking right into it.

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46 minutes ago, Autochthon1990 said:

Even if that were true, which it's not, ya'll are a federation, is that /really/ the worst idea anybody's ever have given the two most deadly wars in human history where fought over european nationalism? 

We're not a federation at all. NOBODY voted for it. It has been imposed on us through stealth without our consent. It may come as a bit of a shock to you but not everyone wants to see their country consumed into one large homogenised lump of European "states" ultimately answerable to a bunch of unaccountable out of touch bureaucrats based in Brussels that we can never remove from office at the Ballot Box if we don't like any of their policies because they will never even stand for election in the first place.

The EU itself is nationalistic, awarding itself the symbols of a Country (its own President (or five), its own (fake) Parliament, it's own Supreme Court, with jurisdiction over all member "States" Courts, its own Flag, its own Anthem, its own Currency, Outer Borders/Open Borders, and now, seemingly, its own Armed Forces) - All totally contrived, but designed to pull a false sense of allegiance in our minds.

It has even told those of us who were gullible enough to even listen to them that we were now its so-called "Citizens", despite not even being a Country, and, as we saw during Nigel's barnstorming farewell speech in the EU's fake Parliament, demands that member "States" transfer all Patriotism towards the EU instead of their own lands.

 
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A  "political monstrosity" that has made our lives better, safer, more comfortable, more democratic and increased personal wealth? Yes, what a terrible thing it is. Let's find someone to go to war with instead.

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10 minutes ago, The Silver Shroud said:

So Far Away has been indocrinated by people who want to live in the far,far past where nations were belligerant and competed for resources, instead of co-cooperating to maximise resources.

So the other 170 or so non-EU countries on the rest of the planet, many of whom seem to be able to manage perfectly fine without having to be politically shackled to a Politburo based elsewhere, are all living in the far, far past are they?

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2 minutes ago, The Silver Shroud said:

A  "political monstrosity" that has made our lives better, safer, more comfortable, more democratic and increased personal wealth? Yes, what a terrible thing it is. Let's find someone to go to war with instead.

What a load of rubbish. Just what planet are you on? The way you lot carry on you'd think the UK was living in the stone age before the EU was imposed on us.

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5 minutes ago, So Far Away said:

What a load of rubbish. Just what planet are you on? The way you lot carry on you'd think the UK was living in the stone age before the EU was imposed on us.

I know nothing about you and won't block you but I have checked your profile and you are a waste of space. If you were on reddit you would be removed.

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6 minutes ago, The Silver Shroud said:

I know nothing about you and won't block you but I have checked your profile and you are a waste of space. If you were on reddit you would be blocked.

Oh, so now I'm a waste of space because I have a different opinion to you about the EU and the direction it is heading? That's a really intelligent counter-argument. Is that how the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (oops, sorry, I meant the EU) deals with dissenters who dare to voice opposition to them then?

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^^ The divisions caused by Brexit are still plain to see six years on.

When slurs like "remoaners" are still being thrown around, you know that there is a long way to go before the country can move on from this debacle.

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