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US vaping company ordered to pull e-cigarettes from shelves


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The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has blocked e-cigarette maker Juul Labs Inc from selling nicotine products in the US after recognising it "played a disproportionate role in the rise of youth vaping".

The decision has been branded a potentially fatal blow for the San Francisco-based firm.

https://news.sky.com/story/us-vaping-company-ordered-to-pull-electronic-cigarettes-from-shelves-12639212

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So basically they are saying **** you smokers, keep smoking analogs. If the kids want to smoke they can light one up the old fashioned way.

I don't use or care about juul but this is a stupid, stupid thing. Do they not have laws in place that keep kids from buying them, like regular smokes?

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1 hour ago, moonman said:

So basically they are saying **** you smokers, keep smoking analogs. If the kids want to smoke they can light one up the old fashioned way.

I don't use or care about juul but this is a stupid, stupid thing. Do they not have laws in place that keep kids from buying them, like regular smokes?

This will get overturned.  They can't single out one manufacturer for such emotion based reasons.  I wonder how much this will cost tax payers by the time Juul kicks that FDA's butt in court?

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Frankly the whole smoking industry should be straight up outlawed. Just nuke the whole thing, it's illegal to smoke, you can't produce it in the United States, and you can't import the things in. 

I mean sure, you could argue that this would work about has well as prohibition, but that didn't generally lead to large clouds of pungent smoke in the air that anybody can trace easily. With a little luck, inside of a few decades we'll have a tiny percentage of smokers if any left at all. This isn't like alcohol where the stuff is harmless if you drink responsibly and don't over imbibe, there's no safe amount of tobacco smoke in your system and it actively causes just all kinds of nasty cancers. 

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1 hour ago, Autochthon1990 said:

Frankly the whole smoking industry should be straight up outlawed. Just nuke the whole thing, it's illegal to smoke, you can't produce it in the United States, and you can't import the things in. 

I mean sure, you could argue that this would work about has well as prohibition, but that didn't generally lead to large clouds of pungent smoke in the air that anybody can trace easily. With a little luck, inside of a few decades we'll have a tiny percentage of smokers if any left at all. This isn't like alcohol where the stuff is harmless if you drink responsibly and don't over imbibe, there's no safe amount of tobacco smoke in your system and it actively causes just all kinds of nasty cancers. 

Im a lifelong non smoker however i am not sure that vaping nicotine is as bad as sucking an old fashioned coffin nail, i do run into a smoker here or there who will claim its harmless the more realistic ones just say something dumb like we all gonna die anyway.

In the 80s i encountered rude entitled smokers too much but frankly between laws about where a person can smoke and cancer i no longer have such issues.

 

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1 hour ago, the13bats said:

Im a lifelong non smoker however i am not sure that vaping nicotine is as bad as sucking an old fashioned coffin nail, i do run into a smoker here or there who will claim its harmless the more realistic ones just say something dumb like we all gonna die anyway.

In the 80s i encountered rude entitled smokers too much but frankly between laws about where a person can smoke and cancer i no longer have such issues.

 

Oh vaping is better by far, but it's still a problem, the whole concept should be dustbinned.

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2 hours ago, Autochthon1990 said:

Oh vaping is better by far, but it's still a problem, the whole concept should be dustbinned.

What i dont like about vaping or most vapers is they are like smokers of the 80s and seem all entitled to puff it in my face,

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Posted (IP: Staff) ·

Juul can keep selling e-cigarettes as court blocks FDA ban

Juul can continue to sell its electronic cigarettes, at least for now, after a federal appeals court on Friday temporarily blocked a government ban.

Juul filed an emergency motion earlier Friday, seeking the temporary hold while it appeals the sales ban.

The e-cigarette maker had asked the court to pause what it called an "extraordinary and unlawful action" by the Food and Drug Administration that would have required it to immediately halt its business.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-juul-e-cigarettes-court-blocks-fda.html

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On 6/24/2022 at 9:09 AM, the13bats said:

What i dont like about vaping or most vapers is they are like smokers of the 80s and seem all entitled to puff it in my face,

A lot of them use these giant tanks , like to be able to get a puff about 10 times the size of a cigarette. I mean they cup their hands around it like they are making love to it. :) I was at a Guns n Roses concert a while back and this guy had 2 giant tanks , one in each hand. 

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Don't doubt ciggs are bad though definitely don't trust vaping. Two different mds told me (suggested switching vaping) don't do it, better off smoking cigarettes. One ex employee (pharm student) did thesis on vaping,  told me its definitely worse than cigarettes. My personal opinion, which is 100% true, we won't know the long term effects for decades.

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1 hour ago, Bed of chaos said:

One ex employee (pharm student) did thesis on vaping,  told me its definitely worse than cigarettes.

Probably hoping for a well paid political job from the anti lobby if there is one.

1 hour ago, Bed of chaos said:

we won't know the long term effects for decades.

Agreed, we may as well let people get on with it till we know. 

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