jmccr8 Posted July 11, 2022 #101 Share Posted July 11, 2022 18 hours ago, RavenHawk said: You’re not an American, you do not understand real liberty. Hi Raven I am not American either and when people ask me what do you do, I tell them I do as I please, and I don't own a gun either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted July 11, 2022 #102 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, RavenHawk said: One is too many, but we are just looking at the math. Which number is bigger? 314 or 350,000,000 (8.9e-5%, an extremely small number. As I said, the MSM hypes the 314 and blows it up out of proportion. There were almost 800 people shot and killed in Chicago last year. Where is your compassion for them? Where is your compassion for the 600k cancer victims? How ‘bout the 38k that die in car accidents? Why don’t we confiscate cars because they are deadlier than guns? We ignore that statistic because cars are useful. So are guns. More lives were saved because someone was armed without discharging the weapon. Self-defense is the cornerstone of liberty. Like I say, you are an excellent argument against guns. Your post just shores that claim up. When you include children at school as collateral damage, it's clear that your sensibilities are compromised. We do confiscate cars. All the time when used outside of regulations. More lives are taken than saved. You are arming criminals. It is and remains and outdated barbaric solution that shouldn't even be seen in a third world country in this day and age, let alone an alleged first world country. Guns make the people weak and dependant. My little sister is on the cancer research team at Edinburgh University. They are doing a hell of a lot more to beat cancer than America is about mass shootings and kids dying in schools. That mark is and will remain a blight on America as long as the anti social destructive effect of gun culture remains in place. It's backwards thinking that needs correcting. 18 hours ago, RavenHawk said: It’s the view you have why we need to be armed. You’re not an American, you do not understand real liberty. I understand freedom much better than you do, that is obvious. Freedom doesn't come at the point of a gun. Gun culture is a barbaric mindset indoctrinated into Americans only. All I can do is pity you. Like I would a fundamental religious person. Edited July 11, 2022 by psyche101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el midgetron Posted July 11, 2022 #103 Share Posted July 11, 2022 Freedom most certainly does come from the ability to defend ones self. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted July 14, 2022 #104 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 6:32 PM, jmccr8 said: Hi Raven I am not American either and when people ask me what do you do, I tell them I do as I please, and I don't own a gun either. Hey JM, Is that all you need to be free? Isn’t there something more? Even a bird in a gilded cage sings beautifully, but they are far from free. Or is that just bread and circuses to you? A bone here or there that the government throws out to you so you don’t notice how it enslaves you? Not trying to insult, just make a point. I don’t recall where you are from?? I would guess Europe, The Commonwealth or a current or former European colony. But if you were to have a gun, what restrictions do you have in your country? If you have serious problems with crime from Muslim immigrants, can you say anything about it without being charged with a hate crime? Are you in one of those countries that forced mandatory covid quarantine? Are you in one of those countries where their health services are plagued by long waiting times to see a doctor, rationing of care and medicines? Are you in a country that has instituted the 2030 Agenda and are imposing nitrogen restrictions on the farmers? If you have just one restriction, then you do not have liberty. If none of those strike a nerve, perhaps something else limits your freedom? If you’re ok with it all, then perhaps you’ve been beaten into submission by the malaise of a tyrannical, seemingly benevolent government? We have enough of that here and we (at least 30%) fight to keep from being like Europe and the rest of the planet. Depending on government is not freedom. That is not liberty. Here, the charters of power are granted by liberty. In the rest of the world, charters of liberty are granted by power. In the latter, liberty is only on loan to the individual. In the former, liberty is owned by the individual (you are the master of your destiny). The Great Reset has been quietly using that lack of sense of liberty to push their 2030 Agenda. The Green New Deal is just the American version of it. How are your farmers these days? Farmers from all over the world (most notably the Netherlands) are rioting against new policies to reduce nitrogen emissions and it is driving farmers out of business. Entities from Bill Gates to the CCP are buying up as much land as they can. This is insidious and the farmers are the mine canary. What kind of freedom do you think farmers have? They thought that their land was theirs to do with as they please. When their freedom goes, so goes yours. The Globalists are going to use food shortages (that they caused) to control the populations. They are looking at mass starvation. The vaccine was just the start at culling the herd. Sri Lanka was to be the crown jewel of this 2030 Agenda and now it is in complete collapse. Thousands are rioting in the street. Government buildings are being burned down. People are not free when they riot in the streets because of government overreach. A good movie to watch is “Le Confessioni” (2016). The backdrop is at a G8 summit and the secret they hold is revealed from a suicide. Back in the real world, someone believes that man-caused climate change is real. And they are going to murder hundreds of millions on a false belief. It’s not going to go down like Schwab and his buddies think. This planet can still support several billion more with abundance and balance it out with nature. And it starts with protecting fundamental rights and liberty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted July 14, 2022 #105 Share Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 6:54 PM, psyche101 said: Like I say, you are an excellent argument against guns. Your post just shores that claim up. And that statement just shores up your incoherence. Quote When you include children at school as collateral damage, it’s clear that your sensibilities are compromised. We’re not talking about collateral damage. We are talking about the numbers. Why do you show more concern over 314 children rather than the hundreds and thousands that die from other causes? You really don’t care for the lives of these children. You’re more concerned about a poisonous ideology. One in which the education system and the media has imbedded it into your brain. Quote We do confiscate cars. All the time when used outside of regulations. That is such shallow thinking. But what is not happening is a preemptive confiscation of cars. A drunk drives off and plows into a family, killing them. I don’t see a call to remove all cars. The vast majority of guns are owned by law-abiding citizens (well within “regulations”). The reality is that guns are only a danger to the Left’s power. Guns are always a threat to tyrants. That’s why they try to disarm the people. Quote More lives are taken than saved. That is incorrect. If you take the time, you’ll find several sources that range from 1.3 to 2.5 million are saved when a firearm is present. Whichever end you choose, it’s still more than 38k. Quote You are arming criminals. How so? I think you misunderstand what’s going on here. No doubt the result of indoctrination. I think criminals will always arm themselves. They don’t need any help from me or anyone else. You really think that a criminal is going to obey the law? Got an answer for that? If you disarm the law-abiding citizen, the criminal will run rampant. The criminal will just buy a weapon from the black market or make one, as we saw in the Abe assassination. You need to target the criminal and not the guns or the law-abiding citizen or the 2A. This is just common sense, which you clearly seem to lack. Quote It is and remains and outdated barbaric solution Says who? ****** is outdated and barbaric. And yet there are millions falling all over themselves to be ruled, instead of being their own master. That’s ideological subversion. The solution is to make society more peaceful. And an armed citizenry is a very polite and peaceful society. Quote that shouldn't even be seen in a third world country in this day and age, let alone an alleged first world country. The level of tyranny is seen from the banana republics of the third world all the way up to the seemingly benign democratic Socialist first world nations. One would think that tyranny wouldn’t be seen in this day and age, but it is and solely because of Man’s frailty. Quote Guns make the people weak and dependant. What kind of BS are you spouting? Guns make people strong and independent. It is government that makes people weak and dependent. If you have a 200lbs man attacking a 90lbs woman, a gun would make the woman more powerful. Sam Colt is attributed in saying: “God created man, and Sam Colt made them equal.” The gun is a very useful tool to save life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Quote My little sister is on the cancer research team at Edinburgh University. They are doing a hell of a lot more to beat cancer I’ve heard that story for decades now. And I do believe that someday they will. That will save the lives of hundreds of thousands every year, including children. Quote than America is about mass shootings and kids dying in schools. That mark is and will remain a blight on America as long as the anti social destructive effect of gun culture remains in place. It's backwards thinking that needs correcting. Yes, that is a blight on America and until we start addressing the issue and go after the criminal and what creates that environment (criminal behavior), we will never be free of it. Going after guns doesn’t help. That only exasperates the problem. The more gun laws you impose, the more death you’ll have. Quote I understand freedom much better than you do, that is obvious. What is obvious is that you proved that you do not know anything about freedom and liberty. Very few do (even here). This is why the Globalists are making their move now. But even like Thanos, they have severely underestimated their opposition. "As Long As There Are Those That Remember What Was, There Will Always Be Those That Are Unable To Accept What Can Be. They Will Resist." I love quotes, as you can tell. This one is still the best when it comes to describing the Left. Another one that describes what is happening now is this one: “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” I think we fell into that last part of the cycle in just the last 18 months. Freedom is in danger and an armed citizenry is needed to halt the slide. Once halted, then we can support strong men. Hard times are here. China is on the verge of collapse (bank runs). Sri Lanka has collapsed. The Dutch farmer are on strike. And riots in hundreds of places around the globe over the 2030 Agenda (Green New Deal) causing higher prices and shortages. If you don’t see what’s going on, then you are not in tuned with liberty and freedom. Quote Freedom doesn't come at the point of a gun. True, but it does thwart tyranny being imposed at the point of a gun. Quote Gun culture is a barbaric mindset indoctrinated into Americans only. Gun culture is civilized. That’s what separates the nations. How their children are indoctrinated into their culture. With us, guns, liberty, freedom, and faith go hand-in-hand. There is nothing higher in Man’s development. Quote All I can do is pity you. Like I would a fundamental religious person. That is a great compliment. Faith is an integral component to liberty and freedom. And someone like you that says they have pity, just showcases how out of touch you are. I thought your avatar implied that you took no bull, but now, it looks like that it is what you shovel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RavenHawk Posted July 14, 2022 #107 Share Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, el midgetron said: That's the Smail's Exhortation - "you'll get nothing and you'll like it!" https://realscienceblog.com/2021/07/28/the-lefts-propaganda-methods-revealed/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RavenHawk Posted July 14, 2022 #108 Share Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, RavenHawk said: Says who? ****** is outdated and barbaric. And yet there are millions falling all over themselves to be ruled, instead of being their own master. That’s ideological subversion. The solution is to make society more peaceful. And an armed citizenry is a very polite and peaceful society. The bleeped out word is Tyranny. I left off the first "y" and didn't catch it right away. Good thing I'm not a transistor radio or transmission repairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted July 14, 2022 #109 Share Posted July 14, 2022 15 hours ago, RavenHawk said: Is that all you need to be free? Isn’t there something more? Even a bird in a gilded cage sings beautifully, but they are far from free. Or is that just bread and circuses to you? A bone here or there that the government throws out to you so you don’t notice how it enslaves you? Not trying to insult, just make a point. I don’t recall where you are from?? I would guess Europe, The Commonwealth or a current or former European colony. But if you were to have a gun, what restrictions do you have in your country? If you have serious problems with crime from Muslim immigrants, can you say anything about it without being charged with a hate crime? Are you in one of those countries that forced mandatory covid quarantine? Are you in one of those countries where their health services are plagued by long waiting times to see a doctor, rationing of care and medicines? Are you in a country that has instituted the 2030 Agenda and are imposing nitrogen restrictions on the farmers? If you have just one restriction, then you do not have liberty. Hi Raven I know a lot of people cry about their freedoms, I might of had to rework a plan to do something but rest assured if there is something I want to do I will find a way. I am a Canadian and realized many years ago that I don't have rights I have privileges that I am not entitled to so molded my way of doing things for myself and do not rely on anyone or system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 14, 2022 #110 Share Posted July 14, 2022 In America, criminals have and will continue to have access to guns. So I do not want to give up mine. They give my wife and I piece of mind knowing that we can protect ourselves from criminals. Criminals knowing that a large percentage of people living in rural areas have guns keeps the crime rate lower. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted July 15, 2022 #111 Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: And that statement just shores up your incoherence. Do you want to illustrate how? Or do you not know what coherence means? I'm understanding you quite clearly. And it's quite obvious that you are incapable of logical discussion. You are a fanatic. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: We’re not talking about collateral damage. We are talking about the numbers. Why do you show more concern over 314 children rather than the hundreds and thousands that die from other causes? You really don’t care for the lives of these children. You’re more concerned about a poisonous ideology. One in which the education system and the media has imbedded it into your brain. No, you're talking about collateral damage. Each and every cause had a specific solution which is being chased. People like you are who I hold responsible for the blood of those children. You're comments put that directly in your hands. You're as bad as the shooters IMHO. Children always deserve more concern. If you don't think so, you're just a horrid monster. All right wing people blame the media. If that because right wing fanatics can only follow? Just another right wing lemming. You are a serious concern to your immediate community if this is the thought train you use to blissfully dismiss the killings you are responsible for with you're barbaric outdated ideology. You would be welcomed in Shariah with your mindset I would expect. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: That is such shallow thinking. But what is not happening is a preemptive confiscation of cars. A drunk drives off and plows into a family, killing them. I don’t see a call to remove all cars. The vast majority of guns are owned by law-abiding citizens (well within “regulations”). The reality is that guns are only a danger to the Left’s power. Guns are always a threat to tyrants. That’s why they try to disarm the people. The left are tyrant's the right are. The left is too worried they might offend someone if they poop at the wrong time of day. Right wing ideology is destructive and separatist. Regulations are required. You shot your own argument in the foot. Yes we have them for cars. Strict too. Free people pass the driving test first go. But you would give a gun to a five year old and blame the left when the five year old shoots the mother by accident. You're predictable and an enemy of reason. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: That is incorrect. If you take the time, you’ll find several sources that range from 1.3 to 2.5 million are saved when a firearm is present. Whichever end you choose, it’s still more than 38k. BS. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: How so? I think you misunderstand what’s going on here. No doubt the result of indoctrination. Indoctrination claims from a religious gun nut? This is a joke yeah? I take it this is some poor tight wing attempt at humour? Religion has sucked the logic and sense right out of you. It's why you're a gun nut lemming. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: I think criminals will always arm themselves. Look, thinking really isn't your strong suit. Rambling nonsense appears to be your forte. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: They don’t need any help from me or anyone else. You really think that a criminal is going to obey the law? Got an answer for that? If you disarm the law-abiding citizen, the criminal will run rampant. The criminal will just buy a weapon from the black market or make one, as we saw in the Abe assassination. You need to target the criminal and not the guns or the law-abiding citizen or the 2A. This is just common sense, which you clearly seem to lack. I understand supply and demand. That seems to be where you completely fall down. It's the only successful way to O for disarm criminals. Criminals can't buy guns of they aren't available. Simple concept so it should be easy to grasp it. America is a criminals paradise because it's so easy to become that with cheap guns readily available. Regulations don't disarm responsible people with a genuine needs. It's not the dogs breakfast the American gun culture has left the country in. It removes supply and demand from the streets where the people who would use guns for nefarious purposes are supplied. This just seems to blow your mind. Focus on it for a while and you should be able to understand what I'm saying. Which is basically you can't buy what isn't for sale. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: Says who? ****** is outdated and barbaric. And yet there are millions falling all over themselves to be ruled, instead of being their own master. That’s ideological subversion. The solution is to make society more peaceful. And an armed citizenry is a very polite and peaceful society. The rest of the civilised world is who. American gun nuts are just putting fingers in ears braying loudly so they can't hear reality and decency. But is there if you have the guts to stop listen and discuss. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: The level of tyranny is seen from the banana republics of the third world all the way up to the seemingly benign democratic Socialist first world nations. One would think that tyranny wouldn’t be seen in this day and age, but it is and solely because of Man’s frailty I don't think you know what tyranny actually is. Wouldn't exist in this day and age with theocracies still existing? Are you being serious? On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: What kind of BS are you spouting? Guns make people strong and independent. It is government that makes people weak and dependent. If you have a 200lbs man attacking a 90lbs woman, a gun would make the woman more powerful. Sam Colt is attributed in saying: “God created man, and Sam Colt made them equal.” The gun is a very useful tool to save life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Is that why a tiny little wasted meth head can comit robbery is it? Is that why Crimo slaughtered people indiscriminately? You are distanced from reality. A 90lb woman would be overcome in most instances before she could even reach for a gun. That gun would more likely end up in the hands of criminals because you think it's a good idea to let crime run rampant and then let citizens shoot it out. Barbaric outdated mentality. Thug life for suburbia. The one spiting BS here is you. It sounds like you watch too many Liam Neeson movies. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: I’ve heard that story for decades now. And I do believe that someday they will. That will save the lives of hundreds of thousands every year, including children. And yet it's still not sinking in. Hearing that story for decades means it's an incredibly hard d challenge and shows much work has gone into it. Nothing has gone into the gun culture problem. It just goes backwards year after year. 2A was written in a time when the highest scholars in the land knew less than primary school children today. It's an outdated dinosaur. America drags the chain regarding a civilised way to a better world. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: Yes, that is a blight on America and until we start addressing the issue and go after the criminal and what creates that environment (criminal behavior), we will never be free of it. Going after guns doesn’t help. That only exasperates the problem. The more gun laws you impose, the more death you’ll have. As is the blight of gun culture shooting the nation in the foot. Guns enable criminals and the unstable. Or is that pretty much all that is left in America these days? Going after guns would make all the difference in the world. You are in denial. Like the nutters who buy more guns after an incident. No thought process just a knee jerk reaction that compounds the issue. You're a menace to your own country. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: What is obvious is that you proved that you do not know anything about freedom and liberty. Very few do (even here). This is why the Globalists are making their move now. But even like Thanos, they have severely underestimated their opposition. "As Long As There Are Those That Remember What Was, There Will Always Be Those That Are Unable To Accept What Can Be. They Will Resist." I love quotes, as you can tell. This one is still the best when it comes to describing the Left. Actually no. It's a movie It's the best when describing an unstable mind that struggles to seperate fantasy from reality. And it does you only have Hollywood ideals for freedom or liberty. I know more about real freedom than you ever will. Your mind has jailed you to think you are in a never ending battle. That is neither normal nor healthy. I can be walk the streets unarmed and without fear. It's paradise compared to what you are describing. You described a hate filled world where everyone fears each other at the threat of death at the point of a gun. A living hell IMHO. And I would not like to be your neighbour. You sound dead set crazy. I would rather cross the street than even be near a highly unstable person. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: Another one that describes what is happening now is this one: “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.” I think we fell into that last part of the cycle in just the last 18 months. Freedom is in danger and an armed citizenry is needed to halt the slide. Once halted, then we can support strong men. Hard times are here. China is on the verge of collapse (bank runs). Sri Lanka has collapsed. The Dutch farmer are on strike. And riots in hundreds of places around the globe over the 2030 Agenda (Green New Deal) causing higher prices and shortages. If you don’t see what’s going on, then you are not in tuned with liberty and freedom. Trump was your biggest threat to freedom. He is gone. America will take quite a while to recover from the bad press and hopeless management of what was once a great nation. Biden is doing his best but a pig with lipstick is still a pig. Anyone who thinks a gun in your cupboard is any way to battle modern military tech Is delusional. In seconds you would look like a paint smear with a useless gun nearby. Then a criminal could use it to loot. That's what your ideology does. Arm criminals. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: True, but it does thwart tyranny being imposed at the point of a gun. Where? In your dreams? You talk about this day and age and think a gun is any use against modern military tech? Talk about out of touch with reality!!!! Crikey. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: Gun culture is civilized. That’s what separates the nations. How their children are indoctrinated into their culture. With us, guns, liberty, freedom, and faith go hand-in-hand. There is nothing higher in Man’s development No, yours just in denial. Texas loosened laws earlier this year. Then a few weeks ago, Uvalde. A massive failure for Texas. Children dead because of outdated barbaric ideologies.. On 7/14/2022 at 12:51 PM, RavenHawk said: That is a great compliment. Faith is an integral component to liberty and freedom. And someone like you that says they have pity, just showcases how out of touch you are. I thought your avatar implied that you took no bull, but now, it looks like that it is what you shovel. Murders can take the term monster as a compliment. I see your acceptance in the same vein. Yes, you deserve pity. The system failed you and now you continually spout extreme right wing ideology mindlessly. Faith is declining because it's just a form of tyranny. It's primary function is to control people. You have been trained well to support it and roll, beg or play dead. Or watch children die and convince yourself that you are doing the right thing. If there really was a gif, it would be ashamed of you. Yep, I speak straight. It's full no BS even if it's a bit much for your sensitive little eyes. Truth hurts sometimes. It seems this is one of those times. Oh, and you are too verbose. Work on your skills there for the sake of the posters would you? Or do you win arguments by boring your opponent out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted July 16, 2022 #112 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Here is what he used... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_M%26P15 So very similar to an AR15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted July 16, 2022 #113 Share Posted July 16, 2022 The Wikipedia page... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Park_parade_shooting Quote When asked about why the "clear and present danger" report did not prevent Crimo from obtaining a FOID card, the Illinois State Police said that Crimo responded no when asked whether he would harm himself or others and "no one, including family, was willing to move forward on a complaint". Neither did they provide more information on threats or mental health that would have enabled further action by law enforcement.[59] He could have just as easily used a car, or molotov bombs. Building a big bomb is as easy as going to a home and garden store, with some easily found instructions off the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted July 16, 2022 #114 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Ban scary music... https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2022/07/06/alleged-4th-of-july-shooter-seriously-contemplated-another-mass-shooting-hours-later-police-say/ Quote Crimo’s alleged motivation for shooting up a July 4 event isn’t clear, but Covelli said he had “some type of affinity towards the numbers four and seven, and [the] inverse was seven-four”—a fixation that came from “music that he’s interested in.” If we ban the scary music then kids won't be motivated to shoot up public events. Because if even one person can be saved.... (Sarcasm...) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted July 18, 2022 #115 Share Posted July 18, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 6:31 PM, DieChecker said: The Wikipedia page... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Park_parade_shooting He could have just as easily used a car, or molotov bombs. Building a big bomb is as easy as going to a home and garden store, with some easily found instructions off the internet. Yet he didn't and I can't see how a gun is just so much easier and more destructive. Good thing Texas loosened gun laws. Now they are famous for it. Wasn't it you or was it AT predicting that the loose open carry laws would result in less death? That was a big steaming pile of horse hockey wasn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted July 19, 2022 #116 Share Posted July 19, 2022 21 hours ago, psyche101 said: Yet he didn't and I can't see how a gun is just so much easier and more destructive. Good thing Texas loosened gun laws. Now they are famous for it. Wasn't it you or was it AT predicting that the loose open carry laws would result in less death? That was a big steaming pile of horse hockey wasn't it. Wasn't me. I think I said it would be an interesting experiment. Maybe something can be learned from the data over several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted July 19, 2022 #117 Share Posted July 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, DieChecker said: Wasn't me. I think I said it would be an interesting experiment. Maybe something can be learned from the data over several years. Must have been AT. I'll have to go back and look. Not of to a great start so far. 19 children dead says failure pretty loud and clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted July 19, 2022 #118 Share Posted July 19, 2022 1 hour ago, psyche101 said: Must have been AT. I'll have to go back and look. Not of to a great start so far. 19 children dead says failure pretty loud and clear. It is horrible, but that many young people can be killed in a weekend in one big city. There's a disease called Hantavirus. It kills about 35% of those who catch it. There's been about 830 cases in the US in the last 10 years. So about 300 deaths. 30 per year. Then there's Influenza which kills about 50,000 people per year in the US. You are going on about "hantavirus" and ignoring "influenza". Because you have a favorite topic seemingly. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted July 19, 2022 #119 Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, DieChecker said: It is horrible, but that many young people can be killed in a weekend in one big city. There's a disease called Hantavirus. It kills about 35% of those who catch it. There's been about 830 cases in the US in the last 10 years. So about 300 deaths. 30 per year. Then there's Influenza which kills about 50,000 people per year in the US. You are going on about "hantavirus" and ignoring "influenza". Because you have a favorite topic seemingly. Just saying. So because people die of disease, children are acceptable collateral damage for 2A? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted July 19, 2022 #120 Share Posted July 19, 2022 3 hours ago, psyche101 said: So because people die of disease, children are acceptable collateral damage for 2A? Where are all the good guys with flu? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 28, 2022 #121 Share Posted July 28, 2022 July 27 (Reuters) - An Illinois man accused of shooting into a crowd watching a Chicago-area Independence Day parade was indicted by a grand jury on 117 counts, including 21 counts of first-degree murder, the state's attorney's office said on Wednesday. The suspect, Robert Crimo, 21, has been held without bail since he was arrested after the shooting at the July Fourth celebration in Highland Park that left seven people dead and more than three dozen injured. He is set to appear in court on Aug. 3 for his arraignment, Lake County State's Attorney's Office said in a statement on Wednesday. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/update-1-suspect-in-july-4-mass-shooting-near-chicago-indicted-on-117-counts/ar-AA102ANQ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 28, 2022 #122 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) Damm he looks like the kid from stranger things. Edited July 28, 2022 by the13bats 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 28, 2022 #123 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Does chi town have the death penalty? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 28, 2022 #124 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, the13bats said: Damm he looks like the kid from stranger things. Freaken Eddie Munster, you know to day I Contacted the Federal Court System in Chicago, Illinois where is currently being held, I want to find out if I could actually go to to court and watch trial They old me its fist come first serve as far as getting a seat. I was thinking I would get hotel room near, As Long as Trump doesn't own it, I mean seriously I would pay maybe $550 to $1000 a day I would not put a penny in his pocket. Still making up my mind if I am going go, but I thin k it will be a very vey open and shut case. n the video provided they state that there may not even be trail, it appears that once he was read his rights you sang like a song and told them every! Sadly they don't have the death Penalty. Because if they did you could put your name into drawing to be a witness to his execution, I would love to watch that b****** die!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 28, 2022 #125 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) Aw, dont insult eddie munster like that, just imagine that cat in gen pop of fed grey bar hotel chi town might have the death pen afterall. Someone in there likely lost family at his hands. Btw, did he say why he did it? Edited July 28, 2022 by the13bats 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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