XenoFish Posted July 25, 2022 #551 Share Posted July 25, 2022 1 hour ago, larryp said: living life as it was meant to be. What a beautiful prospect!! Hedonism while wiping the butt crack of sin with the holy robe of jesus. Sounds about right, once forgiven, always forgiven. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted July 25, 2022 #552 Share Posted July 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, larryp said: ^^^ Hey, you got that backwards. I’m not the one putting faith in an anachronistic series of texts made into a book, written by Greeks and goat herders about a deity they never originally believed in or worshipped and from stories many of which were taken from other cultures and reworked to present them with a level of antiquity not otherwise in evidence. That would be YOU. It’s your incompetence alone that you don’t know the origins of the deity or religion you’ve latched onto, not everyone’s that gullible. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryp Posted July 26, 2022 #553 Share Posted July 26, 2022 13 hours ago, cormac mac airt said: ". . . and from stories many of which were taken from other cultures and reworked to present them with a level of antiquity not otherwise in evidence. That would be YOU. It’s your incompetence alone that you don’t know the origins of the deity or religion you’ve latched onto, not everyone’s that gullible. cormac Oh! You're referring to the earth being round and hanging upon nothing. Job 26:7-8, while your far fathers believed in the flat earth fantasy. Or when YHWH told the Jews to bury their waste, Deuteronomy 23:13; this was long before "Louis Pasteur" and the discovery of microbes, while your brotheren, Europeans threw their trash out the windows, beckoning the plague or when YHWH told the Jews, two- hundred years in advance that the Medes and the Persians would liberate them from Egyptian bondage; even called their liberator by name, Cyrus the Great. I can go on and on, but are those the stories you're referring to, Cormac? LOL . . . LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted July 26, 2022 #554 Share Posted July 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, larryp said: Oh! You're referring to the earth being round and hanging upon nothing. Job 26:7-8, while your far fathers believed in the flat earth fantasy. Or when YHWH told the Jews to bury their waste, Deuteronomy 23:13; this was long before "Louis Pasteur" and the discovery of microbes, while your brotheren, Europeans threw their trash out the windows, beckoning the plague or when YHWH told the Jews, two- hundred years in advance that the Medes and the Persians would liberate them from Egyptian bondage; even called their liberator by name, Cyrus the Great. I can go on and on, but are those the stories you're referring to, Cormac? LOL . . . LOL Nope, their various origin stories that you apparently know nothing meaningful about. cormac 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryp Posted July 26, 2022 #555 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) ^^^ You have nothing substantial to say; just Smoke and mirrors!! Edited July 26, 2022 by larryp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted July 26, 2022 #556 Share Posted July 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, larryp said: ^^^ You have nothing substantial to say; just Smoke and mirrors!! True, you've been quite unproductive. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryp Posted July 26, 2022 #557 Share Posted July 26, 2022 On 7/25/2022 at 10:14 AM, XenoFish said: I figure if some of the believers switched out "God" with "I" they might see things differently. God wants.... I want... Most people have already done so; you are a good example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted July 27, 2022 #558 Share Posted July 27, 2022 3 hours ago, larryp said: ^^^ You have nothing substantial to say; just Smoke and mirrors!! Nope, I just don’t live in your fantasyland. cormac 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbloodmoon Posted July 27, 2022 #559 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted July 27, 2022 #560 Share Posted July 27, 2022 On 7/23/2022 at 11:13 PM, larryp said: First of all, the tree of knowledge was not a loaded gun. It was a simple "symbol" of obedience and the right of God to make a decision and rule his creation. In like manner, the engineers of Mercedes Benzs have dos' and don'ts to drive their cars to run at peak performance, but what happens if you don't follow instructions? Well, they don’t tell you that if you make a mistake you will die. But your God told Adam he would die on the day he ate the fruit of the tree but he didn’t. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryp Posted July 31, 2022 #561 Share Posted July 31, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 11:05 AM, Guyver said: Well, they don’t tell you that if you make a mistake you will die. But your God told Adam he would die on the day he ate the fruit of the tree but he didn’t. YHWH The two teenagers that got into the back seat of a Tesla (while the car's autopilot was on) were killed because they didn't follow instructions. Also, as I said before, YHWH doesn't reckon time the way we do. A thousand years is like a day to Him. So, Adam and Eve didn't live for a thousand years, so they died that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted July 31, 2022 #562 Share Posted July 31, 2022 12 hours ago, larryp said: A thousand years is like a day to Him. So, Adam and Eve didn't live for a thousand years, so they died that day. And a day is like a thousand years to Him. So they didn't die that day. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryp Posted August 1, 2022 #563 Share Posted August 1, 2022 21 hours ago, Rlyeh said: And a day is like a thousand years to Him. So they died that day. Correct!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbloodmoon Posted August 2, 2022 #564 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 7/31/2022 at 12:04 AM, larryp said: YHWH doesn't reckon time the way we do. A thousand years is like a day to Him. So, Adam and Eve didn't live for a thousand years, so they died that day. So what you’re saying is God isn’t smarter than a fifth grader? Fifth graders have a basic understanding of time and they know the difference between a day and a thousand years. So god is either mentally retarded or just lazy and can’t bother with consistency. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted August 2, 2022 #565 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 minute ago, newbloodmoon said: So what you’re saying is God isn’t smarter than a fifth grader? Fifth graders have a basic understanding of time and they know the difference between a day and a thousand years. So god is either mentally retarded or just lazy and can’t bother with consistency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted August 2, 2022 #566 Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 7/27/2022 at 7:33 AM, larryp said: ^^^ You have nothing substantial to say; just Smoke and mirrors!! What do you feel that you are contributing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted August 2, 2022 #567 Share Posted August 2, 2022 8 hours ago, newbloodmoon said: So what you’re saying is God isn’t smarter than a fifth grader? Fifth graders have a basic understanding of time and they know the difference between a day and a thousand years. So god is either mentally retarded or just lazy and can’t bother with consistency. Or nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbloodmoon Posted August 2, 2022 #568 Share Posted August 2, 2022 41 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: Or nonexistent. That’s where I lean as there has never been any “evidence” to satisfy the God claim for me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted August 2, 2022 #569 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) On 7/27/2022 at 2:05 PM, Guyver said: Well, they don’t tell you that if you make a mistake you will die. But your God told Adam he would die on the day he ate the fruit of the tree but he didn’t. I thought the idea was…that he died in the Spirit on that day…because he ‘disobeyed’. But I think he died in the Spirit because when he ate of the fruit ,,as it says, “his eyes were opened”. .and he realized ,or saw himself as separate from god. ! …The story goes on to explain how one can be saved from spiritual death ,and Reunited with god, but we all gotta wait until Jesus’ return! to be risen Always a catch! …it was Eve’s fault though Edited August 2, 2022 by lightly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted August 2, 2022 #570 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, lightly said: I thought the idea was…that he died in the Spirit on that day…because he ‘disobeyed’. But I think he died in the Spirit because when he ate of the fruit ,,as it says, “his eyes were opened”. .and he realized ,or saw himself as separate from god. ! …The story goes on to explain how one can be saved from spiritual death ,and Reunited with god, but we all gotta wait until Jesus’ return! to be risen Always a catch! Well, now you are mixing the old testament with the new testament. Jesus wasn't around to save Adam so that interpretation just makes the congitive dissonance stronger. Edited August 2, 2022 by Desertrat56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted August 2, 2022 #571 Share Posted August 2, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: Well, now you are mixing the old testament with the new testament. Jesus wasn't around to save Adam so that interpretation just makes the congitive dissonance stronger. Well, Ya, your right. I guess the ‘saved’ thing ..wasn’t part of the story yet. Edited August 2, 2022 by lightly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted August 3, 2022 #572 Share Posted August 3, 2022 10 hours ago, lightly said: Well, Ya, your right. I guess the ‘saved’ thing ..wasn’t part of the story yet. It's even more disjointed now that the Vatican (and several other religions) have finally accepted the mountains of evidence behind evolution. So the churches agree that there was no Adam and Eve. Yet, they are responsible for original sin, which god apparently decided to absolve by getting humans to torture and kill his son. Which makes sense, I mean how else would one absolve sin, not by just accepting it surely!! That's beyond a god apparently. So that's not what Jesus died for, which as far as I know is what many average religious people accept. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted August 3, 2022 #573 Share Posted August 3, 2022 13 hours ago, lightly said: I thought the idea was…that he died in the Spirit on that day…because he ‘disobeyed’. But I think he died in the Spirit because when he ate of the fruit ,,as it says, “his eyes were opened”. .and he realized ,or saw himself as separate from god. ! …The story goes on to explain how one can be saved from spiritual death ,and Reunited with god, but we all gotta wait until Jesus’ return! to be risen Always a catch! …it was Eve’s fault though Interesting that he had to die n the spirit in order to make babies. Adam and Eve never even figured out how to have sex until after they ate the fruit, apparently, according to the Bible. Isn’t that something? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted August 3, 2022 #574 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Guyver said: Interesting that he had to die n the spirit in order to make babies. Adam and Eve never even figured out how to have sex until after they ate the fruit, apparently, according to the Bible. Isn’t that something? They’re good ! You’ll see. . Edited August 3, 2022 by lightly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightly Posted August 3, 2022 #575 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, psyche101 said: It's even more disjointed now that the Vatican (and several other religions) have finally accepted the mountains of evidence behind evolution. So the churches agree that there was no Adam and Eve. Yet, they are responsible for original sin, which god apparently decided to absolve by getting humans to torture and kill his son. Which makes sense, I mean how else would one absolve sin, not by just accepting it surely!! That's beyond a god apparently. So that's not what Jesus died for, which as far as I know is what many average religious people accept. Oh? Then how do you explain Cain and. . . Well, Cain? Edited August 3, 2022 by lightly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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