Biblical inerrancy

[larryp]

On 8/5/2022 at 4:57 AM, newbloodmoon said:

Anyone can “claim” their holy scripture is the true word of god(s), yet when it comes down too it one can only say “because the holy text says it’s true”, or “Take it on faith.”

YHWH

Or compare it to the Dead Sea Scrolls. There you will find the manuscript that dates back over two thousand years. Yet, despite being translated into thousands of languages and copied thousands of times, it still reads the same as the Bible. So take those rose-colored glasses off and think about that for a moment.

[larryp]

23 hours ago, Rlyeh said:

I mean your father supports slavery too.

Good, I don't want to pay for someone else's lavish spending. It allows them to work their debt off.

[cormac mac airt]

1 hour ago, larryp said:

ancient Greece - 700 BCE

Moses wrote the book of Job before the Greeks, around 1425 BCE, so it looks like your math is wrong, pal.

Since archaeologists and other scholars have shown that not only didn’t the Biblical Moses exist but he also never wrote those books attributed to him your claim is meaningless. 
 

ETA:  

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Scholars generally agree that it was written between the 7th and 4th centuries BCE, with the 6th century BCE as the most likely period for various reasons.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Job

BTW, the 6th century was the period of the end of Babylonian Captivity. 
 

cormac

Edited August 12, 2022 by cormac mac airt

[cormac mac airt]

58 minutes ago, larryp said:

YHWH

Or compare it to the Dead Sea Scrolls. There you will find the manuscript that dates back over two thousand years. Yet, despite being translated into thousands of languages and copied thousands of times, it still reads the same as the Bible. So take those rose-colored glasses off and think about that for a moment.

Which version? The Masoretic Text, the Septuagint or the Samaritan Pentateuch? Because they ALL vary. 
 

cormac

[larryp]

On 8/5/2022 at 8:36 AM, jmccr8 said:

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 hi Larry

Hell was used in the King James version in 725 ad and the dead sea scrolls were found in 1947 so there seems to be some discrepency in your thinking

YHWH

There's no discrepancy, jmccr. The Dead Sea Scrolls were found in 1947, but the papyrus paper it was written on dates back over two thousand years. So, in other words, the Scrolls date back to the Roman Empire.

[larryp]

On 8/4/2022 at 1:44 PM, cormac mac airt said:

". . . YOU don’t know that Hebrew language only dates to the 10th century BC whereas Phoenician predates it by 500 years. 

cormac

YHWH

Wrong:

Moses wrote the book of Job in 1428 B.C.E.

[larryp]

19 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said:

Which version? The Masoretic Text, the Septuagint or the Samaritan Pentateuch? Because they ALL vary. 
 

cormac

YHWH's Holy Bible; that version!! The version that the Dead Sea Scrolls support. Period.

[cormac mac airt]

7 minutes ago, larryp said:

YHWH

Wrong:

Moses wrote the book of Job in 1428 B.C.E.

Scholars and archaeologists have concluded THERE WAS NO MOSES. You have no argument. 
 

cormac

[cormac mac airt]

1 minute ago, larryp said:

YHWH's Holy Bible; that version!! The version that the Dead Sea Scrolls support. Period.

Your Bible is a mashup of many, MANY texts written at different times and places and by many different people. There was no “one Bible” in ancient times and they all didn’t agree. That’s a matter of textual fact. 
 

cormac

[larryp]

1 minute ago, cormac mac airt said:

Your Bible is a mashup of many, MANY texts written at different times and places and by many different people. 
 

cormac

YHWH

It was verified by archeology, geology history, and historians. Your only go-to excuse is the billions and billions of years of fantasy club.

[cormac mac airt]

5 minutes ago, larryp said:

YHWH

It was verified by archeology, geology history, and historians. Your only go-to excuse is the billions and billions of years of fantasy club.

Where’s your evidence? Textual analyses have been performed on the DSS showing variations between it and the modern Bible. 
 

Specific analysis shows the following: 

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About 35% of the DSS biblical manuscripts belong to the Masoretic tradition, 5% to the Septuagint family, and 5% to the Samaritan, with the remainder unaligned.

http://jur.byu.edu/?p=3703

cormac

[Piney]

16 minutes ago, larryp said:

YHWH

It was verified by archeology, geology history, and historians. Your only go-to excuse is the billions and billions of years of fantasy club.

Please list those archeologists, geologists and historians with the titles of the papers they wrote.

[larryp]

On 8/5/2022 at 12:30 PM, Desertrat56 said:

You've already said this and been asked to provide documentation of this.  

 

YHWH

Oh! You're referring to the earth being round and hanging upon nothing. Job 26:7-8, while your far fathers believed in the flat earth fantasy. Or when YHWH told the Jews to bury their waste, Deuteronomy 23:13; this was long before "Louis Pasteur" and the discovery of microbes, while your brotheren, Europeans threw their trash out the windows, beckoning the plague or when YHWH told the Jews, two- hundred years in advance that the Medes and the Persians would liberate them from Egyptian bondage; even called their liberator by name, Cyrus the Great. I can go on and on, but is this the documantation are you're referring to, Deserter? LOL . . . LOL

[larryp]

Anybody else?

[+Desertrat56]

9 minutes ago, Piney said:

Please list those archeologists, geologists and historians with the titles of the papers they wrote.

He has been asked at least 3 times before but he has never answered so don't hold your breath.   

[larryp]

On 8/5/2022 at 2:49 AM, XenoFish said:

Didn't ask and don't care. 

You mean don't ask, don't tell. 

[cormac mac airt]

17 minutes ago, larryp said:

 

 

YHWH

Oh! You're referring to the earth being round and hanging upon nothing. Job 26:7-8, while your far fathers believed in the flat earth fantasy. Or when YHWH told the Jews to bury their waste, Deuteronomy 23:13; this was long before "Louis Pasteur" and the discovery of microbes, while your brotheren, Europeans threw their trash out the windows, beckoning the plague or when YHWH told the Jews, two- hundred years in advance that the Medes and the Persians would liberate them from Egyptian bondage; even called their liberator by name, Cyrus the Great. I can go on and on, but is this the documantation are you're referring to, Deserter? LOL . . . LOL

None of which verifies Jewish religious beliefs. Go figure. 
 

cormac

[+Hammerclaw]

Face it guys, there's no way to win an argument with anyone who believes in the inerrancy of a book that, usually, comes with a side or center column of corrections. You might as well try to fill a bucket with a hole in the bottom. Stupidity is its own reward and the man is embarrassed by his riches. It takes at least two intelligent people to have an intelligent conversation. This is as futile as screaming into the wind.

[Piney]

10 minutes ago, larryp said:

Anybody else?

 

14 minutes ago, larryp said:

YHWH

Oh! You're referring to the earth being round and hanging upon nothing. Job 26:7-8, while your far fathers believed in the flat earth fantasy. Or when YHWH told the Jews to bury their waste, Deuteronomy 23:13; this was long before "Louis Pasteur" and the discovery of microbes, while your brotheren, Europeans threw their trash out the windows, beckoning the plague or when YHWH told the Jews, two- hundred years in advance that the Medes and the Persians would liberate them from Egyptian bondage; even called their liberator by name, Cyrus the Great. I can go on and on, but is this the documantation are you're referring to, Deserter? LOL . . . LOL

My people not only buried their waste outside and away from our villages.  We processed food outside of the village and kept pets outside our houses.

We also practiced agroforestry and had our own self sustaining "garden of eden" which Rutgers just figured out and we did it without a written language.

The Egyptians, Chinese and the Greeks not only knew the Earth was round, they figured out it’s circumference. 

And it's brethren......not brotheren....

[larryp]

On 8/11/2022 at 8:25 AM, cormac mac airt said:

Assuming you misspoke:

1)  the Hebrews date Creation to 3760/3761 BC so if the Sumerians date to 4000 BC how did they exist BEFORE Creation? 
 

cormac

YHWH

Adam was born 4026 B.C.E. archological remains of the Sumaerians date back to 4000 B.C.E.

[Piney]

4 minutes ago, larryp said:

YHWH

Adam was born 4026 B.C.E. 

And that date was recorded where?

[larryp]

^^^

It was recorded through bible chronology.

 

[larryp]

On 8/6/2022 at 7:38 AM, cormac mac airt said:

EL and his worship PREDATE the Hebrew Yahweh and Hebrew language by around 1000 years which means the name El IS NOT Hebrew in origin. The earliest mention of El are from the texts at Ugarit circa 2500 BC . . ."
 

cormac

Moses wrote the book of Job in 1400 B.C.E. Go ahead, try again.

[cormac mac airt]

29 minutes ago, larryp said:

YHWH

Adam was born 4026 B.C.E. archological remains of the Sumaerians date back to 4000 B.C.E.

Sumer, circa 5500 BC, PREDATES your Adam, who also didn’t exist. 
 

cormac

[larryp]

1 hour ago, cormac mac airt said:

Scholars and archaeologists have concluded THERE WAS NO MOSES. You have no argument. 
 

cormac

Yeah!!