Popular Post mottorpop Posted July 5, 2022 Popular Post #1 Share Posted July 5, 2022 Good day everyone, I am a botanist that has had an interest in the paranormal for awhile now. I suddenly realized that I could mix both interests together with the field of cryptobotany. I was wondering if anyone had any good leads or details of cryptid plants ( living fossils, glow-in-the-dark, carnivorous, walking, etc. ). Thanks in advance. Oh, and just to kick things off, I do sometimes get to chase rare and unusual plants such as these bioluminescent mushrooms from the Genus: Mycena. (techinically it is the bacteria living on them that glows and not the fungus itself. I took these photos one night while coming down a mountainside. 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted July 5, 2022 #2 Share Posted July 5, 2022 @mottorpop welcome to UM. Do you have any realistic examples for cryptobotanicals? Also I think it’s the first time I’ve ever seen the word! Obviously plenty of stuff rooted in fiction. Here’s something, but is hoax/fabrication/fiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-eating_plant 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted July 5, 2022 #3 Share Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, mottorpop said: I was wondering if anyone had any good leads or details of cryptid plants Edited July 5, 2022 by jethrofloyd 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mottorpop Posted July 5, 2022 Author #4 Share Posted July 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, Timothy said: @mottorpop welcome to UM. Do you have any realistic examples for cryptobotanicals? I have started making a list of unusual references. There are reports of glow-in-the-dark trees, but I do not think any have been proven [edit: except the modern genetically modified kind]. Several decades ago, a museum in India claimed to have a carnivorous plant big enough to eat a mouse ... but that has since disappeared. I have also seen some extreme and very unlikely candidates like that man-eating plant. That is the odd thing with cryptospecies ... once it is discovered, it is no longer on the list. And since I am open to having fun with the topic, perhaps I should start with a relatively easy research project. There is rumored to be the infamous 'kite eating tree' as illustrated her by 'some' guy' named Charles Schulz. I am told it is relatively easy to find if you use the right 'bait'. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted July 5, 2022 #5 Share Posted July 5, 2022 I am intrigued with cryptozoology and you spin on it sounds fun but i am not a believer in paranormal as we have no supporting evidence of it existing, A lot of cypto creatures are folklore not of the real world and i suspect crypto plsnts would be too. I very much like the legend of Naree pons. While i know some plants like mandrake might look human shaped i think naree pon are 100% folklore i also love sideshow gaffs so really dig these... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 12, 2022 #6 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/5/2022 at 11:23 PM, mottorpop said: I was wondering if anyone had any good leads or details of cryptid plants ( living fossils, glow-in-the-dark, carnivorous, walking, etc. ). Thanks in advance. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 12, 2022 #7 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/5/2022 at 11:23 PM, mottorpop said: Good day everyone, I am a botanist that has had an interest in the paranormal for awhile now. I suddenly realized that I could mix both interests together with the field of cryptobotany. I was wondering if anyone had any good leads or details of cryptid plants ( living fossils, glow-in-the-dark, carnivorous, walking, etc. ). Thanks in advance. Oh, and just to kick things off, I do sometimes get to chase rare and unusual plants such as these bioluminescent mushrooms from the Genus: Mycena. (techinically it is the bacteria living on them that glows and not the fungus itself. I took these photos one night while coming down a mountainside. I remember the former thread about this: https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/347140-non-animal-cryptids/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 12, 2022 #8 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 6:31 AM, Timothy said: @mottorpop welcome to UM. Do you have any realistic examples for cryptobotanicals? Also I think it’s the first time I’ve ever seen the word! Obviously plenty of stuff rooted in fiction. Here’s something, but is hoax/fabrication/fiction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-eating_plant Yes he actually has the tomato’s from attack of the killer tomatoes! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 12, 2022 #9 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/5/2022 at 11:23 PM, mottorpop said: living fossils Dead, but huge fossils: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/long-before-trees-overtook-the-land-earth-was-covered-by-giant-mushrooms-13709647/ 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 12, 2022 #10 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 8:00 AM, the13bats said: I am intrigued with cryptozoology and you spin on it sounds fun but i am not a believer in paranormal as we have no supporting evidence of it existing, A lot of cypto creatures are folklore not of the real world and i suspect crypto plsnts would be too. I very much like the legend of Naree pons. While i know some plants like mandrake might look human shaped i think naree pon are 100% folklore i also love sideshow gaffs so really dig these... I have actually eaten a salad that had lettuce that looked like that, and I started eating the dam things started screaming, sacred the hell out me so I started stabbing with my fork and then a knife and finally the dam things shut up! I later learned that my Native American friends had given some mushrooms to taste before we left for dinner, they had a great taste to them so I ate a few maybe 4 or 5 mushrooms. Everyone was laughing when I did it, well when I got to the restaurant an hour later I found out why! I grew up in the 1970s so LSD was not unfamiliar to me I tried it a few times, but those mushrooms were much more intense than anything I tried before! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 12, 2022 #11 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Abramelin said: Dead, but huge fossils: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/long-before-trees-overtook-the-land-earth-was-covered-by-giant-mushrooms-13709647/ I have seen similar standing fossilized trees that were buried during a volcanic eruption in Yakima Washington! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 12, 2022 #12 Share Posted July 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said: I have seen similar standing fossilized trees that were buried during a volcanic eruption in Yakima Washington! But these are mushrooms! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 12, 2022 #13 Share Posted July 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Abramelin said: But these are mushrooms! Holy crap how big are they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted July 12, 2022 #14 Share Posted July 12, 2022 57 minutes ago, Manwon Lender said: Holy crap how big are they? According to the link I posted: “The ancient organism boasted trunks up to 24 feet (8 meters) high and as wide as three feet (one meter),” said National Geographic in 2007. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted July 12, 2022 #15 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Abramelin said: According to the link I posted: “The ancient organism boasted trunks up to 24 feet (8 meters) high and as wide as three feet (one meter),” said National Geographic in 2007. That would require a industrial size frying pan and a truckload of garlic and butter. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolltide Posted July 12, 2022 #16 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Not crypto, but definitely interesting.. Now, that fateful discovery has led to the identification of a new species of pitcher plant, one that traps and eats bugs underground. Researchers believe Nepenthes pudica is the first recorded pitcher plant that feeds below the surface, according to a paper published in late June in the journal PhytoKeys. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-new-species-of-carnivorous-pitcher-plant-traps-its-prey-underground-180980387/ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 13, 2022 #17 Share Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) On 7/12/2022 at 11:42 PM, Abramelin said: According to the link I posted: “The ancient organism boasted trunks up to 24 feet (8 meters) high and as wide as three feet (one meter),” said National Geographic in 2007. Holy crap that’s unbelievable are they, are they Psilocybin mushrooms; commonly known as magic mushrooms, mushrooms? If so I understand how early hominids first began to develop religious practices because those things will make you see God, don’t know from experience though! Edited July 13, 2022 by Manwon Lender 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted July 13, 2022 #18 Share Posted July 13, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 6:23 AM, mottorpop said: Good day everyone, I am a botanist that has had an interest in the paranormal for awhile now. I suddenly realized that I could mix both interests together with the field of cryptobotany. I was wondering if anyone had any good leads or details of cryptid plants ( living fossils, glow-in-the-dark, carnivorous, walking, etc. ). Thanks in advance. Oh, and just to kick things off, I do sometimes get to chase rare and unusual plants such as these bioluminescent mushrooms from the Genus: Mycena. (techinically it is the bacteria living on them that glows and not the fungus itself. I took these photos one night while coming down a mountainside. Here are some Extremophile Plant species that are in some cases discovered and in some cases they are Novel ( new ) you may enjoy this information! 1. Algal Toxic Compounds and Their Aeroterrestrial, Airborne and other Extremophilic Producers with Attention to Soil and Plant Contamination: A Review. The compounds produced are harmful to humans, plants irrigated by infested water can absorb … harmful for humans even in cases of no visible changes [115,225,241]. For example, cyanotoxins can affect the plants: https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/toxins/toxins-13-00322/article_deploy/toxins-13-00322-v2.pdf?version=1619752507 2. Extremophiles: radiation resistance microbial reserves and therapeutic implications: https://sfamjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1365-2672.2011.04971.x 3. Psychrophilic Bacterial Phosphate-Biofertilizers: A Novel Extremophile for Sustainable Crop Production under Cold Environment‘ https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/microorganisms/microorganisms-09-02451/article_deploy/microorganisms-09-02451-v2.pdf?version=1638323865 4. Biological Control of Citrus Postharvest Phytopathogens‘ control agents and may have harmful effects on human health and environment. To date, of plants include materials from Cistus L. species: https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/toxins/toxins-11-00460/article_deploy/toxins-11-00460.pdf?version=1565081186 5. Leaf physiological traits of plants from the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau and other arid sites in China: Identifying susceptible species and well-adapted extremophiles: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S017616172200075X 6. Toxic or Otherwise Harmful Algae and the Built Environment‘ algae that is potentially harmful to humans occurring in the built … Toxins produced from aerophytic or otherwise extremophile … on the stimulation of favourable plants at buildings: https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/toxins/toxins-13-00465/article_deploy/toxins-13-00465-v2.pdf?version=1625227264 7. Deep-Sea Hydrothermal Vents: Potential Hot Spots for Natural Products Discovery?’ http://m-biotech.biol.uoa.gr/MATHIMATAPMS/ANALYSEIS/M1/BOURBOULI(YD).pd 8. Hyperthermophiles in the history of life: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1664684/?_escaped_fragment_=po=25.0000 9. Novel Formaldehyde-Activating Enzyme in Methylobacterium extorquens AM1 Required for Growth on Methanol: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC111405/ More to follow later 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted November 1, 2022 #19 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I saw mention of the Yateveo tree in a Attenborough show on carnivorous plants. Here is a write up. https://hatch.kookscience.com/wiki/Yateveo It also mentions the rat eating pitcher plant https://www.necps.org/the-mouse-eating-pitcher-plant-a-carnivorous-plant-that-eats-mice/#:~:text=The plant has a hollow pitcher -shaped leaf,then digests the rat and absorbs its nutrients. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted November 1, 2022 #20 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I just thought this thread fits nice here: More from net: "Miracle plant” thought to be extinct rediscovered in Turkey https://www.earth.com/news/miracle-plant-thought-to-be-extinct-rediscovered-in-turkey/ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted November 2, 2022 #21 Share Posted November 2, 2022 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted November 3, 2022 #22 Share Posted November 3, 2022 There was a thread a couple years ago about carnivorous trees. As in upscaled small carnivorous plants. I think not much came out of it. There's a tree that has spines that are tremendously poisonous. I think it is the Sandbox Tree. https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/trees/sandbox-tree/sandbox-tree-information.htm Quote Sandbox tree fruit looks like little pumpkins, but once they dry into seed capsules, they become ticking time bombs. When fully mature, they explode with a loud bang and fling their hard, flattened seeds at speeds of up to 150 miles (241 km.) per hour and distances of over 60 feet (18 m.). The shrapnel can seriously injure any person or animal in its path. As bad as this is, the exploding seed pods are only one of the ways that a sandbox tree can inflict harm. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted November 3, 2022 #23 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) On 7/6/2022 at 7:23 AM, mottorpop said: Good day everyone, I am a botanist that has had an interest in the paranormal for awhile now. Cryptobotany is one of the most overlooked fields of the paranormal mottorpop, so thanks for brining it to people's attention. Have you ever listened to the podcast The Mysterious Secrets of Uncle Bertie's Botanarium? If not, you need to indulge yourself in the pleasure, as you are a Botanist, and it is therefore acceptable, no, indeed, necessary. That being said, are you familiar with the Jubokko? I heard a story set in the Aokigahara suicide forest about such a tree, or trees. There are also Hamadryads. Of course these are trees with spirits attached to them. As an alternative, here is Gilgamesh's quest for the sea plant that grants immortality... Utnapishtim told Gilgamesh that only God has the power to grant eternal life, but he stated to him a way to rejuvenate to a more youthful state. He told Gilgamesh about a mysterious plant that could reveal secrets about longer life, if not immortality. It could only be found at the ocean’s bottom. Carving of Utnapishtim and his ark Gilgamesh set out to find the “plant that looks like a box-thorn,” sometimes translated as a coral. Then, he lost it – to a snake. Edited November 3, 2022 by Alchopwn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 3, 2022 #24 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Here's a good one, old legend of the Vegetable Lamb of Tartary 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted November 3, 2022 #25 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Welcome to UM, mottorpop! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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