Gems of Wisdom

[Amita]

Such is the nature of true social justice, [Orestes] Brownson declares: not the selfish loneliness of the Benthamite philosophy, nor the mean equality of the Socialists, but a liberation of every man, under God, to do the best that is in him. Poverty is no evil, in itself; obscurity is no evil; labor is no evil; even physical pain may be no evil, as it was no evil to the martyrs. This world is a place of trial and struggle, so that we may find our higher nature in right response to challenge.
To the Socialist, says Brownson, poverty, obscurity, and physical suffering are positive evils, because the Socialist does not perceive that these challenges are put into the world to save us from apathy and sloth and indifference. The Socialist would condemn humanity to a condition of permanent injustice, in which no man could hope for what is his due, the right to exercise his talents given him by God; the Socialist would keep us all in perpetual childhood.

Excerpt From: The Essential Russell Kirk.

[Amita]

Liberation produces selflessness; we lose our selfishness when we come to know the
unity of the soul. By effort one can attain knowledge which leads to salvation. This
is obvious; but what is called God, destiny or fate is fictitious and is not seen. The
dull and the ignorant created God, which is none other than self-effort of a past
incarnation affecting one.

Yoga-Vasistha II:4

[XenoFish]

So what are we supposed to discuss?

[Guyver]

13 minutes ago, XenoFish said:

So what are we supposed to discuss?

Gems or Pearls of Wisdom.  Here’s one; you can’t unring a bell.

[quiXilver]

I've never tried to put the toothpaste back in the tube...

Seems like wisdom to me.

[cormac mac airt]

You can please some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time. 
 

cormac

[Piney]

35 minutes ago, Amita said:

Such is the nature of true social justice, [Orestes] Brownson declares: not the selfish loneliness of the Benthamite philosophy, nor the mean equality of the Socialists, but a liberation of every man, under God, to do the best that is in him. Poverty is no evil, in itself; obscurity is no evil; labor is no evil; even physical pain may be no evil, as it was no evil to the martyrs. This world is a place of trial and struggle, so that we may find our higher nature in right response to challenge.
To the Socialist, says Brownson, poverty, obscurity, and physical suffering are positive evils, because the Socialist does not perceive that these challenges are put into the world to save us from apathy and sloth and indifference. The Socialist would condemn humanity to a condition of permanent injustice, in which no man could hope for what is his due, the right to exercise his talents given him by God; the Socialist would keep us all in perpetual childhood.

Excerpt From: The Essential Russell Kirk.

So a Buddhist is quoting a "indecisive intellectual" who converted from Unitarianism to Catholicism.........SWEEEET!!!!!!

[+OverSword]

“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

[cormac mac airt]

4 minutes ago, OverSword said:

“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

Followed by “Trust me, I’m a politician!” 
 

cormac

[Amita]

1 hour ago, XenoFish said:

So what are we supposed to discuss?

Anything or nothing - as you see fit.  Or contribute a few lines that are better than ordinary smarts.  Or rely on the like - et cetera buttons.

Edited July 7, 2022 by Amita

[Amita]

Very few men are wise by their own counsel, or learned by their own teaching; for he that was only taught by himself had a fool to his master.

Ben Jonson (d. 1637)

Edited July 7, 2022 by Amita

[+Desertrat56]

You have no control over any one else.  You only have control of what you think of them.

[Amita]

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom.

Charles Spurgeon

[XenoFish]

18 minutes ago, Amita said:

Anything or nothing - as you see fit.  Or contribute a few lines that are better than ordinary smarts.  Or rely on the like - et cetera buttons.

[Piney]

1 hour ago, Amita said:

Anything or nothing - as you see fit.  Or contribute a few lines that are better than ordinary smarts.  Or rely on the like - et cetera buttons.

Poverty is a evil which the Catholic Church uses to control their masses. Which is why Brownson voiced their opinion on it as a "good" evil.

Socialism doesn't work when you give them the fish. Giving them the pole and teaching them to fish on the other hand. That does work if the impoverished is willing to work their way out.

[Orphalesion]

6 minutes ago, Piney said:

Poverty is a evil which the Catholic Church uses to control their masses. Which is why Brownson voiced their opinion on it as a "good" evil.

Socialism doesn't work when you give them the fish. Giving them the pole and teaching them to fish on the other hand. That does work if the impoverished is willing to work their way out.

Mother Theresa was also a huge fan of people being poor, even better if they suffered because of it. She though it brought them "closer to God"

[jmccr8]

don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff.

[Amita]

A man should learn to detect and watch that gleam of light which flashes across his mind from within, more than the lustre of the firmament of bards and sages. Yet he dismisses without notice his thought, because it is his. In every work of genius we recognize our own rejected thoughts; they come back to us with a certain alienated majesty.

Emerson, Self-Reliance

[Piney]

1 hour ago, Orphalesion said:

Mother Theresa was also a huge fan of people being poor, even better if they suffered because of it. She though it brought them "closer to God"

That woman was a filthy horrible beast who caused more suffering to people already suffering.

[Piney]

18 minutes ago, Amita said:

A man should learn to detect and watch that gleam of light which flashes across his mind from within, more than the lustre of the firmament of bards and sages. Yet he dismisses without notice his thought, because it is his. In every work of genius we recognize our own rejected thoughts; they come back to us with a certain alienated majesty.

Emerson, Self-Reliance

I did that. Now I use my systemizing skills to debunk total ****.

Edited July 7, 2022 by Piney
The End Times is for hopeless losers

[XenoFish]

[Amita]

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day.-- 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.'-- Is it so bad then to be misunderstood?

Emerson, Self-Reliance

[Piney]

9 minutes ago, Amita said:

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day.-- 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.'-- Is it so bad then to be misunderstood?

Emerson, Self-Reliance

Do you have any original thoughts?

[XenoFish]

No matter how great, wealthy, or powerful you are, it's all gone one day. Beauty fades, wealthy vanishes, and power is merely an illusion.

[Amita]

1 hour ago, Piney said:

Do you have any original thoughts?

Does anyone?  "There is nothing new under the sun." 

I think Emerson was saying that we must not always ignore our own mind's innate insights by preferring only what our mind filters from our senses of hearing or sight.