anyone build their own computers?

[the13bats]

I want to build a new comp ive done several but been a while want to discuss parts to use,

Thanks

[Silver]

2 hours ago, the13bats said:

I want to build a new comp ive done several but been a while want to discuss parts to use,

Thanks

I've built a few.

[the13bats]

10 hours ago, Silver said:

I've built a few.

Are you up on modern stuff? I want to toss together a system in an old mini tower cube i have.

I am not up to date on stuff i still run 7 lol,

I need to step up to 10 and usb 3.

[Silver]

11 hours ago, the13bats said:

Are you up on modern stuff? I want to toss together a system in an old mini tower cube i have.

I am not up to date on stuff i still run 7 lol,

I need to step up to 10 and usb 3.

It depends on what you want the PC for. I built gaming PCs on a budget, getting the most bang for buck was my amusement. I also used pirated software, and was gratified when Win 7 got automatically updated and activated to Win 10 with no quibble from Microsoft.

I used to use performance comparison sites for GPUs, and look for the cheapest with comparable performance to the best.

I also liked nice cases, like the Zalman Z11 and put nice lighting in.

Gaming PCs need big large cases, unless you want t spend a lot of money.

If I was to build a general purpose browsing mini-PC, I'd probably start with looking at the stuff the likes of Overclockers or PCSpecialist use, and then shop around for comparable components.

Zalman Z11 High Performance Mid Tower Cases (quietpc.com)

PCSPECIALIST - Mini PCs - Small Form Factor PCs

Jonsbo VR3 and VR4 Small Form Factor PC Cases - Overclockers UK

GPU UserBenchmarks - 683 Graphics Cards Compared

 

Edited August 5, 2022 by Silver

[the13bats]

I dont game,

Since i posted this i let my OCD drive me on research i need to base the build around either intel i7 or ryzen 5 gpu and a micro mobo that has at least 4 usb 3 ports and supports ssd.

At least 16gb ram

A video card with dual outputs

Im putting it into an old cube tower i have.

Im also going to have boot option for 7 or 10 OS.

 

[Alchopwn]

I soldered a Z80 kit together from scratch when I was 12.  Does that count?  Oh, and I put my own computer parts together to make my gaming PCs.  If you want to learn about good PC builds try: Whirlpool Forums.  They will provide you with advice on an optimized build within your budget.  I love those guys.

[the13bats]

The whole gaming pc thing muddies the water if one doesnt game, i get it gaming is huge but it overshadows everything else to the point of no one really talks about builds for other things like in my case music and video editing, mixing, playback etc.

 

 

[+Nuclear Wessel]

On 8/16/2022 at 8:33 AM, the13bats said:

The whole gaming pc thing muddies the water if one doesnt game, i get it gaming is huge but it overshadows everything else to the point of no one really talks about builds for other things like in my case music and video editing, mixing, playback etc.

Would you consider an Apple computer? Typically they're excellent for everything that doesn't include gaming.

Edited September 5, 2022 by Nuclear Wessel

[Autistocrates]

5 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

Would you consider an Apple computer? Typically they're excellent for everything that doesn't include gaming.

Gaming is a waste of time, while your ship is sinking. This is all a part of the Bread & Games agenda. 

I'm going Apple, despite the expense, if I can run all of my perfectly good gadgets of which Microsoft has rendered obsolete, beginning with XP. 

Linux still sucks, being far from the most user-friendly OS

On 8/5/2022 at 10:25 AM, Silver said:

...was gratified when Win 7 got automatically updated and activated to Win 10 with no quibble from Microsoft...

 

You did Microsoft a favor, without even knowing. I allege them getting kickbacks for all the perfectly good periphery gadgets of which got locked out, upon software "upgrades" to the next OS version. Talk about pre-programmed absolescense.

A computer nerd I know claims that WIN 11 will become obsolete in 2025, in any case

[+Nuclear Wessel]

2 minutes ago, Autistocrates said:

Linux still sucks, being far from the most user-friendly OS

Depends on what you use Linux for. There are some flavours of it that are extremely user-friendly, like Ubuntu or Linux Mint.

[the13bats]

15 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

Would you consider an Apple computer? Typically they're excellent for everything that doesn't include gaming.

Me personally i wont go apple they are far too narssisist on my stuff,  ask hellboy ron pearlman what apple did to his music. Apple is too controlling and noisy, i have used a mac at shows and never an issues just dont want to own one.

I still plan to build a newer pc but for now i stuck 24 g ram in my old dell work station and just that was night and day i added a pcie usb 3.0 card so its up to speed with my 3.0 external drives, ill next grab a used video card and it will float well for home, i still run 7 my 2010 gear likes 7 and its a not broken dont fix it idea.

I have to do a wedding in oct and going to run an old dell taptop with intel i7 and 8 gig ram its music only no vids so not a problem except its an xfr model and is bulky heavy,

Edit to add, microsoft and apple are about like the dems and reps neither are perfect linux is like that indy that never wins,

Edited September 5, 2022 by the13bats

[+Nuclear Wessel]

2 hours ago, the13bats said:

Edit to add, microsoft and apple are about like the dems and reps neither are perfect linux is like that indy that never wins,

The indy that never wins but slowly and surely gets better and better, with age!

[Autistocrates]

23 hours ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

...There are some flavours of it that are extremely user-friendly, like Ubuntu or Linux Mint.

I bought a DELL Inspirion 15 blind out of the internet, operating on Ubuntu. Dissappointing enuff was the missing ethernet port. Which means that I'll have to tie up one of the USB ports, so as to enable connection to the net whatsoever. I have previously never have had to deal with a computer having a missing ethernet port.

The second dissappointment began, when attempting to download extra goodies such as an independent browser. As soon as I did that, I got shut out of the internet altogether. I then considered partitioning the harddrive, in order to circumvent this from the seller's suspected bug-implantment. However, when looking up adding a Microsoft OS to a Linux, there was no such thing, because everybody else was doing it the other way around

[+Nuclear Wessel]

57 minutes ago, Autistocrates said:

The second dissappointment began, when attempting to download extra goodies such as an independent browser. 

What browser were you trying to install?

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As soon as I did that, I got shut out of the internet altogether.

That sounds like a very strange and interesting issue. I have never heard of that happening before. Downloading an independent browser blocked you out of using the internet, entirely?

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I then considered partitioning the harddrive, in order to circumvent this from the seller's suspected bug-implantment. However, when looking up adding a Microsoft OS to a Linux, there was no such thing, because everybody else was doing it the other way around

It's always been my understanding that there were guides for both. How long ago was this?

[Autistocrates]

51 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

What browser were you trying to install?...

www.brave.com . There was already Google Chrome assigned as the standard browser. Why a Linux-based laptop would have that in it alraedy is beyond me and stinks

52 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

...Downloading an independent browser blocked you out of using the internet, entirely?

That and other goodies of which Linux offered. In which order, I did not make an effort to keep track of

52 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said:

...It's always been my understanding that there were guides for both. How long ago was this?

About a year ago, already

[+Nuclear Wessel]

9 minutes ago, Autistocrates said:

www.brave.com . There was already Google Chrome assigned as the standard browser. Why a Linux-based laptop would have that in it alraedy is beyond me and stinks

The installation procedure for Brave is a copy and paste into a terminal, at worst. Firefox is the standard browser, not Chrome - I'm not sure how you managed to get that on your system unless you installed it yourself, as Ubuntu only provides the option to download Chrome, not necessarily to have it as your default browser post-installation. Every time I installed Ubuntu I would have to go and install Chrome manually.

11 minutes ago, Autistocrates said:

About a year ago, already

There's a plethora of guides available to help you set up a Windows partition alongside an Ubuntu installation.

[the13bats]

On OS, i have never messed with linux and just dont care to i might be missing out,

On my new build i plan to install both 7 and 10 and pick which to boot from depending what i desire ill use a separate hdd for each and admit installing 7 is more of a safety net if 10 is mean to me.

[Autistocrates]

For security reasons, it wouldn't make sense in going online, having the 7, since updates for it have long been discontinued. If you're going to partition your harddrive parallel to the 10, why not just install the best WIN OS ever which was 98/2000?

[Duke Wellington]

On 8/12/2022 at 11:22 AM, the13bats said:

I dont game,

Since i posted this i let my OCD drive me on research i need to base the build around either intel i7 or ryzen 5 gpu and a micro mobo that has at least 4 usb 3 ports and supports ssd.

At least 16gb ram

A video card with dual outputs

Im putting it into an old cube tower i have.

Im also going to have boot option for 7 or 10 OS.

 

What task(s) will the PC be required to perform? Everything should be built around that.

[+Nuclear Wessel]

On 9/6/2022 at 3:39 PM, Autistocrates said:

For security reasons, it wouldn't make sense in going online, having the 7, since updates for it have long been discontinued. If you're going to partition your harddrive parallel to the 10, why not just install the best WIN OS ever which was 98/2000?

Windows XP was the best Windows OS ever.

[Autistocrates]

On 9/6/2022 at 11:44 AM, Nuclear Wessel said:

...Firefox is the standard browser, not Chrome - I'm not sure how you managed to get that on your system unless you installed it yourself, as Ubuntu only provides the option to download Chrome, not necessarily to have it as your default browser post-installation. Every time I installed Ubuntu I would have to go and install Chrome manually...

It's difficult to properly photograph such a screen, unlike a Microsoft interface would be,

The turquoise-colored arrow points to the Goog browser and the yellow one points to an Epiphany browser of which I've never heard of. I don't recall it being there, in the beginning. It had to have been snucked in, during fiddling with attempting to get extras? But, as shown, Firefox was never there.

I'm guessing, the seller got a kickback from Google, after ordering a bunch of these with default browsers of which were iintended for substituting the Linux initial defaults. It's underhanded enough that a client gets locked out for attempting to access a Linux browser of which was inherent to the OS package. Chrome is known as a spy browser of which I need not support

On 9/6/2022 at 12:44 AM, the13bats said:

...i wont go apple they are far too narssisist on my stuff,  ask hellboy ron pearlman what apple did to his music. Apple is too controlling and noisy...

Apple's interference with music might have to do with them protecting themselves from possible copyright infringements, being that they exist without the usual inner circle (Youtube, Microsoft, Google, Facebook). 

I, myself, can live with the added expense and possible copyright infringement lock-outs, if I can use the OS for unlimited access to my peripheral gadgets of which Microsoft has a habit of locking out, each time they repackage a basically old OS. Besides reportedly, Apple doesen't cooperate with regimes attempting back door access.

If I want unrestricted access to music, I could always access it all through my WIN 10 PC

On 9/6/2022 at 12:44 AM, the13bats said:

...I have to do a wedding in oct...

Certainly, not sanctified at a White Mass, if you're the one doing it 

 

Edited September 8, 2022 by Autistocrates

[+Nuclear Wessel]

19 minutes ago, Autistocrates said:

It's difficult to properly photograph such a screen, unlike a Microsoft interface would be,

The turquoise-colored arrow points to the Goog browser and the yellow one points to an Epiphany browser of which I've never heard of. I don't recall it being there, in the beginning. It had to have been snucked in, during fiddling with attempting to get extras? But, as shown, Firefox was never there.

I'm guessing, the seller got a kickback from Google, after ordering a bunch of these with default browsers of which were iintended for substituting the Linux initial defaults. It's underhanded enough that a client gets locked out for attempting to access a Linux browser of which was inherent to the OS package. Chrome is known as a spy browser of which I need not support

 

That is quite strange. Whenever I have used a vanilla Ubuntu install, I have never encountered "Epiphany" (though it is based on the Mozilla rendering engine, apparently). Sounds like the seller configured it with a bunch of garbage that you don't even need.

[Autistocrates]

Whatever it takes, in order to make a profit. That's why it's worth the added expense, in buying such devices directly over-the-counter where thy could be thoroughly examined on the spot.

What role would DELL play, in such hanky panky? Could they apply any legal leverage over those who use their products as vehicles of these types?

Edited September 8, 2022 by Autistocrates

[the13bats]

15 hours ago, Autistocrates said:

On 9/5/2022 at 6:44 PM, the13bats said:

 

Certainly, not sanctified at a White Mass, if you're the one doing it 

Goth girl with a metal head guy

[+Desertrat56]

On 8/4/2022 at 2:35 AM, the13bats said:

I want to build a new comp ive done several but been a while want to discuss parts to use,

Thanks

I used to build them for a job I had in the late 90's.  Haven't done it since though.