+joc Posted August 15, 2022 #26 Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 hours ago, the13bats said: Lol, driving home from the club late one night its back roads i see i see a coyote on the side of the road all humped up dumping a load i really do not know if it was suffering from hemorrhoids but you never know. But...was it howling? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted August 15, 2022 #27 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) It's always entertaining when someone automatically goes with the BF story for sounds and such. Complete weirdos who don't remotely consider rational and natural explanations. "Weird sounds I'm not familiar with? It's Bigfoot, it has to be." Edited August 15, 2022 by Trelane 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted August 15, 2022 #28 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Poked around a bit on this story... turns out there is a bit more backstory to this than just this recent recording. June 2017: Movie about Bigfoot sightings to premier in Loudonville Saturday: https://www.the-review.com/story/entertainment/2017/06/29/movie-about-bigfoot-sightings-to/19165017007/ Quote "The Back 80," a movie about Bigfoot sightings near Loudonville, will premier at the Ohio Theatre on Saturday with showings at 2, 5 and 7 p.m., and a question and answer session by the film's directors at 3:30 p.m. According to film promoters, Twisted Tree Productions in Cleveland, the film is based on an alleged Bigfoot sighting on County Road 211 in western Holmes County about 9 miles southeast of Loudonville in the summer of 2013. IMDb on The Back 80: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6195318/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 May 2017 article about the film: https://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/story/news/2017/05/17/upcoming-bigfoot-movie-filmed-near-loudonville/325463001/ A handful of BFRO reports spanning from '43 to '21: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_county_reports.asp?state=OH&county=Ashland An article about a lecture from the area given in May 2017: Ohio science professor explains why Bigfoot likely isn't real: https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/ohio/ohio-science-professor-explains-why-bigfoot-likely-isnt-real/95-432412701 Feb 2020 report: 2 men claim 'Bigfoot' sighting in Ohio, video goes viral: https://www.foxnews.com/tech/bigfoot-sighting-ohio-video-goes-viral 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted August 16, 2022 #29 Share Posted August 16, 2022 14 hours ago, joc said: But...was it howling? Well, i was going about 45 windows up AC blowing i cant say i heard howling but it did have an expression of what i would guess a coyote with a pounding hem would look like, poor creature, perhaps i should check if any bigfoot yells were reported around the area that night. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted August 16, 2022 #30 Share Posted August 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Trelane said: It's always entertaining when someone automatically goes with the BF story for sounds and such. Complete weirdos who don't remotely consider rational and natural explanations. "Weird sounds I'm not familiar with? It's Bigfoot, it has to be." Its the same idea across all paranormal subjects, a person sees/hears something and they dont know what it really is so they make a jump from "i dont know" to "it can only be _________" ( fill in something paranormal ) and they call us skeptics narrow minded. Idk people like to belong or feel special if one hears a coyote with hems thats just not as cool as hearing bigfoot. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted August 16, 2022 #31 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Interesting that she called it bigfoot and not the grassman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashore Posted August 16, 2022 #32 Share Posted August 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Guyver said: Interesting that she called it bigfoot and not the grassman. Meh. It is outside the core area of grass man a bit. Also, a lot of folks toss all folklore of this type under the BF umbrella and toss it like a Kleenex. It's become increasingly common for a while now. I'll be harsh here and guess they are more google lore than folklore. Though I too would think there would have been more research put in by now considering the history there. And for a moment to suspend disbelief.. if it is supposed to be three calls, why not a couple grassmen and a BF coming over to visit? The OP don't know any better To be a bit more realistic though. In a way, it reminded me of a horn call from when I marched as a kid. It was a couple of horn players starting to warm up- there was always a couple or few the weekend before the competition. There would be a call, then another... then it would stop because I assume an adult told them to stop it. It also reminds me of early summer mornings when a lonely heron or two would call out.. or events when the coyotes were out and someone's dog gives a bay or two. Especially when there's a new one or few for the Fourth of July weekend. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted August 16, 2022 #33 Share Posted August 16, 2022 A lot of the PNW folklore has been twisted over the years to fit and justify the Pro BF narrative. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted August 17, 2022 #34 Share Posted August 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Guyver said: Interesting that she called it bigfoot and not the grassman. Guyver, it's all psychological. You yell grassman, everybody says, "Huh? What?" You yell bigfoot , we've got a panic on our hands on the unexplained mysteries forum. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted August 17, 2022 #35 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Well, I’m pretty sure a new season of Expedition Bigfoot is about to drop….so, that’s interesting for sasquatch researchers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted August 17, 2022 #36 Share Posted August 17, 2022 5 hours ago, rashore said: Meh. It is outside the core area of grass man a bit. Also, a lot of folks toss all folklore of this type under the BF umbrella and toss it like a Kleenex. It's become increasingly common for a while now. I'll be harsh here and guess they are more google lore than folklore. Though I too would think there would have been more research put in by now considering the history there. And for a moment to suspend disbelief.. if it is supposed to be three calls, why not a couple grassmen and a BF coming over to visit? The OP don't know any better To be a bit more realistic though. In a way, it reminded me of a horn call from when I marched as a kid. It was a couple of horn players starting to warm up- there was always a couple or few the weekend before the competition. There would be a call, then another... then it would stop because I assume an adult told them to stop it. It also reminds me of early summer mornings when a lonely heron or two would call out.. or events when the coyotes were out and someone's dog gives a bay or two. Especially when there's a new one or few for the Fourth of July weekend. I agree that audio evidence was not compelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted August 17, 2022 #37 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Guyver said: Well, I’m pretty sure a new season of Expedition Bigfoot is about to drop….so, that’s interesting for sasquatch researchers. Curious as i havent had TV since i moved how many seasons are they up to and how many bigfoot have they found? Do they have a live one in a cage or a dead one on a slab? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resume Posted August 17, 2022 #38 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, the13bats said: Curious as i havent had TV since i moved how many seasons are they up to and how many bigfoot have they found? Do they have a live one in a cage or a dead one on a slab? Expedition No Bigfoot. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted August 17, 2022 #39 Share Posted August 17, 2022 10 hours ago, Guyver said: Well, I’m pretty sure a new season of Expedition Bigfoot is about to drop….so, that’s interesting for sasquatch researchers. I'm a BF researcher and I personally think the show is nonsense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted August 17, 2022 #40 Share Posted August 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Trelane said: I'm a BF researcher and I personally think the show is nonsense. Really? They use all the gear a “real” sasquatch researcher would use in the field if money were no object. I would have thought you would appreciate that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted August 17, 2022 #41 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Guyver said: Really? They use all the gear a “real” sasquatch researcher would use in the field if money were no object. I would have thought you would appreciate that. The way they operate in the woods is ridiculous. They have a sizeable film crew that goes along with them. then they're all out there slam banging around the woods. If an animal doesn't want to be seen, these morons give away their position and direction of movement easily so the animal can move away. I use a lot of the exact same gear as well. On some extended camping trips I deploy 20 trail cams on top of the equipment I keep on hand. if they use passive methods they don't investigate beyond very sketchy items they report as BF allegedly. I do, that's how I normally find out I was incorrect in what I think I'm seeing. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resume Posted August 17, 2022 #42 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Trelane said: The way they operate in the woods is ridiculous. They have a sizeable film crew that goes along with them. then they're all out there slam banging around the woods. If an animal doesn't want to be seen, these morons give away their position and direction of movement easily so the animal can move away. I use a lot of the exact same gear as well. On some extended camping trips I deploy 20 trail cams on top of the equipment I keep on hand. if they use passive methods they don't investigate beyond very sketchy items they report as BF allegedly. I do, that's how I normally find out I was incorrect in what I think I'm seeing. It's almost as if they know they'll never find anything. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted August 18, 2022 #43 Share Posted August 18, 2022 On 8/15/2022 at 7:52 PM, rashore said: IMDb on The Back 80: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6195318/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 I like this quote: "When you see something like this, it becomes very personal," Megargle said. "It kind of becomes your creature." Megargle said people in three cars reported seeing Bigfoot walk across an intersection. "They saw the same thing," Megargle said. ------------------------------------------------------------------ What I like in evidence of the eyewitness variety is that you have - not more than one person, but more than one person of different groups. It greatly reduces the chances of fakery because of having to deal with conspiracies. Thanks, Rashore. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted August 18, 2022 #44 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Multiple eyewitnesses don't solidify anything. They just corroborate a story as told, not prove it's true. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resume Posted August 18, 2022 #45 Share Posted August 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Trelane said: Multiple eyewitnesses don't solidify anything. They just corroborate a story as told, not prove it's true. Quote Megargle said people in three cars reported seeing Bigfoot walk across an intersection. "They saw the same thing," Megargle said. Who cares what Megargle said. It's not what she said, but what she can show. 14 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: It greatly reduces the chances of fakery . . . No, it doesn't. What if multiple people saw a man in a footie suit? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resume Posted August 18, 2022 #46 Share Posted August 18, 2022 44 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Say no more! Animal Encyclopedia With Facts, Pictures, Definitions, and More! - AZ Animals (a-z-animals.com) That's where you need to be, fo' sure. You can get back to being productive. yeah. It's good for you. I didn't see any NC black panthers or turtle/tortoises in your link. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted August 18, 2022 #47 Share Posted August 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, Trelane said: Multiple eyewitnesses don't solidify anything. They just corroborate a story as told, not prove it's true. Who's talking "proof" here? I'm looking for probability. And yes, the more separate witnesses with the same account, the more probable the account is true. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted August 18, 2022 #48 Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Who's talking "proof" here? I'm looking for probability. And yes, the more separate witnesses with the same account, the more probable the account is true. There is zero probability at this point, and I'm one actually going out looking for the alleged creature. More witnesses do not make it truer. But we've already gone over this, haven't we? When you have time read the cases: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj147LhqM_5AhUCJ30KHT2qA9YQFnoECAUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Ffiles.deathpenaltyinfo.org%2Flegacy%2Ffiles%2Fpdf%2FStudyCWC2001A.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1i3shNZpp5keCEzVhKeJkm Edited August 18, 2022 by Trelane 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted August 18, 2022 #49 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Oh, and this too: 6 eyewitnesses misidentified a murderer – here’s what went wrong in the lineup https://theconversation.com/6-eyewitnesses-misidentified-a-murderer-heres-what-went-wrong-in-the-lineup-134767 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted August 18, 2022 #50 Share Posted August 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Who's talking "proof" here? I'm looking for probability. And yes, the more separate witnesses with the same account, the more probable the account is true. Of course no one is talking proof there is none, duh. And there is no supportive evidence either so we move to "probability" and that is all about weighing supportive evidence and there is none. So probability of BF being real way less than zero. And separate witnesses with the same account is very weak because people have been salted seasoned to have an expectation what if it were real a BF would look like at this point the fact everyone does report the same thing is another nail in the coffin its anything but BF. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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