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Saru

Can we please drop the flaming Morpheas, it's not going to get anyone anywhere.

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Babs

Morph has talked about his Persian roots, that's what I was referring to. I have no idea of his political leanings, except that maybe he's liberal. blink.gif I am talking about 911, that is the most important point I am making.....

As I said before on this thread my husband went to New York and brought back pictures... they are very sad. There were thousands of people taking pictures of the World Trade Center site, and thousands of people there crying. My husband said it was an experience he will never forget. He told me, on the phone, that he wants to get these guys even more...

I will try to post more pictures as I come across interesting photographs.

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saruman, im merely stating my opinion, it is not my intention to inflame though i realise my anti war stance will antogonise some blood thirsty individuals. myopinion may be flaming to some but im not inciting wars and bloodshed which too are inflaming yes.gif

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This is inflaming.

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morph...I could use a few words like you.... cool.gif but won't, because of the consequences. I hope you are mindful of the consequences.

I hope you don't mind people putting pictures of 911 on the forum, it would be a shame if one person could ruin it for everyone.

You seem to take offense by these pictures. How come??...Oh, yeah, you white-washed your way through something you just posted.

Well, I will try to get more pictures on the board, back to work. Not interested in debating someone who calls me names and seems to come back for more trashing.

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Babs

I'll put it bluntly, I'm not interested in debating with you! laugh.gif

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Looking around for more pictures, these pictures are new...not seen by many. I have books and photos you have to buy in New York...uncommonly seen photos. blink.gif When I get this scanner together with the board thing, I'll bring in more of these pictures. There are some really fantastic sad.gif pictures, but they are hard to look at, without getting very sad.

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Babs

Fantastic means, also,' tragically fantastic'. sad.gif I put a sad face there for those who didn't know what I was saying ....or if it wasn't clear. (You forgot the sad face when you quoted me).

Fantastic can be sad or horrible or great!...Look it up, I thought you could at least read pictures.

Always one in a crowd! thumbsup.gif

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morpheas  Today, 01:54 PM  i take offense to war mongers incting wars which affect thousands upon thousands of INNOCENT people.

What war doesn't affect people? Nuclear weapons only means one thing, you want to fight. Getting nukes is saying your ready to step up to the next level with the big boys. It is indeed Iran looking for trouble.

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is it me or is ok to call someone a terrorist  these days without a shred of evidence, oh i forgot you can do that now.

ok so i will say what i said before but without the obsenities. Babs you are a crazy war monger who has more blood on your hands than what my entire ME family have on theirs. You enjoy inciting wars on nations with nothing to with 9/11 and you feel better at the thought of more innocent people dying because it makes you feel better about the 9/11 tragedy, imo that is sick, you are sick for thinking that every ME person opposed to the war is a terrorist, i am greatly offended when you compare me to a terrorist, but it seems i have no right to be offended about it as we both know who the mods are more sympathetic towards, forget the fact that i do have english blood and have lived here all my life, the fact that i also have ME family and am opposed to this sick war means in Babs mentality that i too am a terrorist. ridiculous is the first word to come to mind here. people like Babs antagonise and cause more anger from innocent people affected by this war asshe gopes on to justify why its right for thousands of children to die....9/11 is all the jusification this lunatic needs in order to incite more bloodshed and grave diggings.

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Why is it you can call me a lunatic and I can't call you anything? You mentioned mod favorites, well I was thinking the same thing, but about 'you'.... and a select few, here. If I had called you all these names (swearing like a drunkin' sailor in the 'edited' post you made) I would have been suspended or banned. ph34r.gif Not you. blink.gif

I never even once called you a terrorist. blink.gif

I realize life isn't fair.

Oh, well, I can understand why you are so inflamed, Iran being in the spotlight and all. But Zep is Iranian, and he is living in Iran and he seems to have a great deal more character than you. Zep gets his point across really well and seems to have a lot more patience. What a shame.

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eckogangsta

Morpheas lives in Iran?

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Babs

No Zep lives in Iran and is Iranian. Morph is Iranian and lives in the UK. Or this is what he has told us, I don't know much about him. Except that he kept his identity a mystery for a awhile, until I came right out and asked him. Even then he took a few weeks to come out with his nationality. He only said that he lived in the UK for many many years. I suspected he had not been born there because of certain things, in our culture, he didn't seem to be familiar with and his anti-american sentiments. He was making a lot of anti-american remarks about our soldiers in Iraq, calling them trigger-happy etc. etc. (not mentioning the fact that Iragis and the terrorists and the insurgents were coming up to our soldiers with hidden bombs and killing them).... and putting the American cause down, whenever he could. This is why I said, "we know where your loyalties are." Wow! that's when he went off on me.

I don't know, I guess Morph wants me to close my eyes and close my ears and never listen to anything connected to 911 ever again. I guess he wants America to turn the other cheek. It's because he sees more people being killed, but what will happen to America if she turns the other cheek? ph34r.gifph34r.gif

I can tell you. They will sever the head.

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lightbeyondthedark

I think Iran is going to be really sad...

I will pray for the Iranian people...

LBD

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Shanga

I agree with you Babs one hundred percent. Funny how someone who is muslim and from a country whose goverment holds rallies with slogand like "kill the jews" and "Burn the Us" and promises to use the nuke on israel or Us as soon as they get it has the balls to call anyone warmonger. "the loyalties are between Britain and Iran" --what? How the hell is that possible?

Every muslim by definition is a warmonger--jihad is the central part of their "religion" --to be a good muslim they need to move the cause of the world kaliphat forward.

As far as innocent civilians in Iraq-well, in iraq now the most popular party is the Jaafary's strict muslim ,iran supported group.They are promising sharia and a muslim state for the iraquis. That means enslavement for their women and no rights for anyone that is not muslim, jihad for the rest of the non-muslim world--and most iraquis support that. That to me places all of them off the innocent list. You don't come out screaming for a fight then start whining about hurting after a first punch. Gutless.

Btw--you are right about Morph having special priviliges here--he and a couple of others seem to have a right to insult and inflame everyone here without consiquence. Oh well--anyone can scream and be brave over the net and for a muslim insulting a woman is not a dishonor--lol ,a muslim and honor in one sentence--that must be a world's first--so I figure it's best to just ignore the boy--let him rave and foam at the mouth--not like he is caipable to keep up a discussion anyways.. disgust.gif

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^Yep, we are reading parts of the Koran in class and it says they are weak if they don't fight the non-muslims. Its sad, they have schools of young kids dressed up as if going to war. Screaming and killing in the name of Allah.

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Thistle

Every muslim by definition is a warmonger

What utter tripe...I shall expect you to keep comments like this to yourself from now on Shanga or your stay here will be very short indeed.

Btw--you are right about Morph having special priviliges here--he and a couple of others seem to have a right to insult and inflame everyone here without consiquence.

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No-one has special privileges here ! The rules are the same for everyone ... do you honestly expect that the mods are going to make it public knowledge when someone recieves a warning? I'm guessing the answer is no there

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Shanga

Thistle--the jihad is the basis of koran--the basis of islam is war --the muslim's duty is to wage war on infadels till the full subjigation of world into a islamic caliphat.prove me wrong if you can--screaming I am evil won't really make the truth go away.

As far as special previliges--i am seeing a ghuy insult a lady time after time without any reprocations--what else you want me to think?

Surah 2:190-193 "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress limits...And slay them wherever ye catch them. And turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution is worse than slaughter; But fight them not at the sacred Mosque unless they first fight you there; But if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, Allah is oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more persecution. And the religion becomes Allah's. But if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression"

Surah 9:38-39 "O ye who believe! What is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things,"

Surah 8:59-70 "Their state is like that of the people of Pharaoh, and of those before them who treated their Lord's signs as lies. We therefore destroy them in their sins, and We drowned the people of Pharaoh; for they were all doers of wrong. The worst beasts truly in the sight of God are the thankless who will not believe; They with whom thou hast leagued, and who are ever breaking their league, and who fear not God! If thou take them in war, then, by the example of their fate, scatter those who shall follow them - that they may be warned: Or if thou fear treachery from any people, throw back their treaty to them as thou fairly mayest, for God loveth not the treacherous. And think not that the infidels shall escape Us! The shall not weaken God....O Prophet! stir up the faithful to the fight. Twenty of you who stand firm shall vanquish two hundred: and if there be an hundred of you they shall vanquish a thousand of the infidels, for they are a people devoid of understanding....No prophet hath been enabled to take captives until he had made great slaughter in the earth. Ye desire the passing fruitions of this world, but God desireth the next life for you. And God is mighty and wise.

Sura 9:5 "And when the sacred months are passed, kill those who join other gods with God wherever ye shall find them; and seize them, besiege them, and lay wait for them with every kind of ambush: but if they shall convert, and observe prayer, and pay the obligatory alms, then let them go their way, for God is gracious, merciful.

Sura 9:12 "But if, after alliance made, they break their oaths and revile your religion, then do battle with the ring-leaders of infidelity - for no oaths are binding with them - that they may desist. What! will ye not fight against those Meccans who have broken their oaths and aimed to expel your Apostle, and attacked you first? Will ye dread them? God is more worthy of your fear, if ye are believers! So make war on them: By your hands will God chastise them, and will put them to shame, and will give you victory over them, and will heal the bosoms of a people who believe;"

Sura 9:30 "Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the Last Day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled. The Jews say, "Ezra is a son of God"; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is a son of God." Such the sayings in their mouths! They resemble the saying of the infidels of old! God do battle with them! How are they misguided? They take their teachers, and their monks, and the Messiah, son of Mary, for lords besides God, though bidden to worship one God only. There is no God but He! Far from His glory be what they associate with Him! Fain would they put out God's light with their mouths: but God only desireth to perfect His light, albeit the infidels abhor it. He it is who hath sent His Apostle with the guidance and a religion of the truth, that He may make it victorious over every other religion, albeit they who assign partners to God be averse from it.

It's funny that you gonna go and ban me instead of trying to argue your point here.

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Shanga

Every person that is muslim has to agree with everyhting in islam--no reformists there--EVERYTHING. Any person that agrees with surahs I posted is a warmonger. that simple. And be a dear thistle--don't threaten me--nothing you wield scares me all that much babe. You wanna ban me cause I am not willing to lie to apease your politicly supercorrect world view--lol, you are welcome to it maam.Sure is easier than trying to prove me wrong or even trying to explain your point of view--don't take much character or balls to ban someone for not agreeing with him. disgust.gif

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Thistle--the jihad is the basis of koran--the basis of islam is war --the muslim's duty is to wage war on infadels till the full subjigation of world into a islamic caliphat.prove me wrong if you can--screaming I am evil won't really make the truth go away.

As far as special previliges--i am seeing a ghuy insult a lady time after time without any reprocations--what else you want me to think?

I see no-one screaming that you are evil.....please show me where that was said. I repeat, warnings issues to members are not made public....so no you won't see them.

It's funny that you gonna go and ban me instead of trying to argue your point here.

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The only point I have to make is that you will stick to forum rules when posting.....quite simple, I am not interested in arguing any other points here.

And be a dear thistle--don't threaten me--nothing you wield scares me all that much babe.

Well in that case be a dear and start following the rules like you agreed to do when you joined.

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Shanga

I am following the rules--you mentioned that I am braking number 2

"No unsuitable material - This includes pornographic material or links, racism or hate related material or content."

If I have said --all arabs are warmongeres acuse they are arabs--that would have being hate material. An insult based on nothing but prejudice. I am stating the facts based on their religion,world view muslims follow. It's like stating that republicans are for smaller goverment--that's what is stated in the party's code--that's what they supposed to belive. I am simply using the code that muslims use,the koran. So no--I am not braking any rules here--just not agreeing with your point of view.Unless you consider the surahs I posted hate material--which they are--but then again--it is their holly book,the way they follow--blame them for it not me.It is a duty of muslims to wage war for allah--that means they are supposed to be pro war against non-muslims. How much simpler can I get here?

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