Alchopwn Posted September 22, 2022 #51 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Abramelin said: This is what I meant to ask: did the Algonqians sail the seas around 1200 bce. It is unlikely. It is very interesting that one of the few languages that has any connection to the Basque language is Algonquian, but this is likely through the pidgin language of Souriquois, but this likely developed during the period after Columbus. Is it possible that it is older? Yes. How much older? IDK. 1200 bce? IDK, but my "magic 8 ball" says it's unlikely. On the other hand, something that isn't talked about nearly enough is that the Gauls had a proper fleet capable of sailing the Atlantic during the time of Julius Caesar. Caesar was scared to put Roman galleys to sea to face them, but a period in his campaign came when there was no wind, and the galleys had the advantage and attacked, smashing the Gallic fleet, and the general Roman genocide of the Gauls meant that the ship builders were likely murdered or enslaved. Interestingly, there are scattered sites in North America that tend to suggest some measure of Celtic contact. It is likely they were not alone. I suspect quite a few civilizations may have bumped into the Americas before Columbus, but because they were pre-Christian, it never happened. The physical evidence is a bit sketchy, but far from non-existent. I'd have to make a bit of a sliding plausibility scale for many of the claims being made, but the Norse are now a fact, so who knows? As for Algonquians making the Atlantic crossing. I can't see a birchbark canoe making the trip, so it is unlikely that the Algonquians would have made the crossing alone, but they may have sailed on someone else's ship. Edited September 22, 2022 by Alchopwn 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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