Popular Post Still Waters Posted October 29, 2022 Popular Post #1 Share Posted October 29, 2022 At least 120 people were killed and 100 more were injured as they were crushed by a large crowd pushing forward on a narrow street during Halloween festivities in the capital of Seoul, South Korean officials said. Choi Seong-beom, chief of Seoul’s Yongsan fire department, said the death toll could rise and that an unspecified number among the injured were in critical conditions. He said 74 of the dead have been sent to hospitals while the bodies of the remaining 46 who had been kept on the streets were being transported to a nearby gym so that workers could identify them. Local media said around 100,000 people flocked to Itaewon streets for the Halloween festivities, which were the biggest since the start of the pandemic following the easing of COVID-19 restrictions in recent months. https://www.euronews.com/2022/10/29/south-korea-dozens-crushed-in-halloween-crowd-surge-in-seoul 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chiron613 Posted October 29, 2022 #2 Share Posted October 29, 2022 That is truly awful... so many people, just trying to have some fun. I don't remember ever hearing of such fatalities in an uncontrolled crowd. 120 people gone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted October 29, 2022 #3 Share Posted October 29, 2022 This is just CRAZY!! So killed by being crushed by people pushing each other? What could be sooooooooo good that crowd A has to push and kill people in crowd B? Were they giving out thousand dollar bills or something? Just crazy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted October 29, 2022 #4 Share Posted October 29, 2022 The same thing has happened during soccer matches. When the number of gathered people goes up, the intelligence of that crowd goes way down. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted October 29, 2022 #5 Share Posted October 29, 2022 A terrible way to die. Crazy Halloween stampede. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted October 29, 2022 #6 Share Posted October 29, 2022 59 minutes ago, DieChecker said: This is just CRAZY!! So killed by being crushed by people pushing each other? What could be sooooooooo good that crowd A has to push and kill people in crowd B? Were they giving out thousand dollar bills or something? Just crazy. An AC/DC concert or a charity basketball game perhaps? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted October 29, 2022 #7 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I hope @Piney's_Little_Ninja's father's family didn't have any relatives in that horror. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted October 29, 2022 #8 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: An AC/DC concert or a charity basketball game perhaps? Maybe for AC/DC I could get into such a pushing fit. Got to get up front!!! Off topic: My 14 year old daughter wears Metallica, AC/DC, Nirvana, and other Rock T-shirts, but can't name a single song any of them sang. Amusing.... Edited October 29, 2022 by DieChecker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted October 30, 2022 #9 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Latest update - death toll 147. What a horrible way to die... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted October 30, 2022 #10 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Piney said: I hope @Piney's_Little_Ninja's father's family didn't have any relatives in that horror. It’s a really crazy situation here in Korea, they still don’t know what caused it to occur. I mean it happened on a open street with a downward incline. At first it was reported that there was a gas leak people smelled it and started running then herd mentality kicked in, but now the gas leak has been refuted. This is a very tragic situation I don’t understand or can even comprehend how this occurred on a unblocked open street. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted October 30, 2022 #11 Share Posted October 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Abramelin said: The same thing has happened during soccer matches. When the number of gathered people goes up, the intelligence of that crowd goes way down. I don't really think it has anything to do with intelligence. I went to a Bon Jovi concert in Oklahoma City once...back when they were incredibly huge. We were standing on the floor and when they took the stage there was an uncontrollable surge of people moving toward the front of the stage. The most terrifying thing I have ever experienced...no control...we didn't fall down but it was all we could do to stay standing. I remember a dozen or so people died in the same way at an AC/DC concert. If you fall down, you can't get up and the people surging cannot avoid stepping on you...no where else to step. One reason I don't like large crowds to this day. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted October 30, 2022 #12 Share Posted October 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: It’s a really crazy situation here in Korea, they still don’t know what caused it to occur. I mean it happened on a open street with a downward incline. At first it was reported that there was a gas leak people smelled it and started running then herd mentality kicked in, but now the gas leak has been refuted. This is a very tragic situation I don’t understand or can even comprehend how this occurred on a unblocked open street. Another concert...ZZ Top at the State Fair of Texas...not a trampling kind of crowd, but we got so locked in, so tight together it was literally fighting just to stay standing...a mass of people like that, packed like Sardines...obviously not Social Distancing anymore...horrible. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted October 30, 2022 #13 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, joc said: Another concert...ZZ Top at the State Fair of Texas...not a trampling kind of crowd, but we got so locked in, so tight together it was literally fighting just to stay standing...a mass of people like that, packed like Sardines...obviously not Social Distancing anymore...horrible. This situation is really crazy, it happened on a side street that they said on the news here was approximately 14 feet wide that wasn’t closed off on either side. I can’t imagine what it was like for those people, I guess as people fell others just kept running over and crushing them. They still have not reported what caused the situation to start, man it’s really a sad sad situation. They are now reporting over 160 deaths. Edited October 30, 2022 by Grim Reaper 6 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrofloyd Posted October 30, 2022 #14 Share Posted October 30, 2022 At least 3.580 people reported missing. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted October 30, 2022 #15 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Here is latest report I was able to find. At least 151 people were killed and dozens injured following a stampede during Halloween celebrations in Seoul, marking one of the worst accidents in South Korea in years. The stampede occurred Saturday night in the popular nightlife district of Itaewon, after a large number of people entered a narrow alley behind the Hamilton Hotel, fire and police authorities said in televised briefings. President Yoon Suk Yeol declared a period of national mourning from Sunday and vowed to carry out a thorough investigation. There were 19 foreigners among those killed, including nationals from Iran, China, Uzbekistan and Norway, authorities said Sunday. Of 82 others injured in the stampede, 19 are in serious condition, they said. There were 355 people reported missing in Seoul, YTN reported. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/seoul-stampede-leaves-over-150-dead-at-halloween-festivities/ar-AA13wyjN?ocid=EMMX&cvid=f759f1ced63c461c8bef3bef834f07c1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted October 30, 2022 #16 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I read they thought there was a celebrity in the area that caused a rush to see them. Pretty sad that for whatever reason this happened. Those poor people, what a horrible way to die. And the survivors, wondering if they were tge ones who trampled someone to death 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted October 30, 2022 #17 Share Posted October 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, glorybebe said: I read they thought there was a celebrity in the area that caused a rush to see them. Pretty sad that for whatever reason this happened. Those poor people, what a horrible way to die. And the survivors, wondering if they were tge ones who trampled someone to death There is no wondering about, if someone trampled someone it’s not like you wouldn’t have known that you stepped upon another person. While I doubt anyone could have avoided it with a huge crowd pushing them, but for those who trampled people they will have to live with it for the rest of their lives. Sadly I doubt that will be an easy thing to do, it’s a dam shame that people just went out to enjoy themselves and the night ended in such a horrific tragedy! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted October 30, 2022 #18 Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said: There is no wondering about, if someone trampled someone it’s not like you wouldn’t have known that you stepped upon another person. While I doubt anyone could have avoided it with a huge crowd pushing them, but for those who trampled people they will have to live with it for the rest of their lives. Sadly I doubt that will be an easy thing to do, it’s a dam shame that people just went out to enjoy themselves and the night ended in such a horrific tragedy! It's not like all these people are running...it is a throng of people literally packed together...you aren't running you are more like surging...you can't not surge. And I think typically what happens is that one person will fall and you have no control over the surge or where you are going...you are just going...and then you don't see the one who fell and you trip and fall and it becomes a domino affect...but the crowd keeps surging. These are not individuals anymore...they are Plural...they are The Crowd. The crowd surges and like being in the waves as they roll in when the big waves roll in they are going to take you with them. No control. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted October 30, 2022 Author #19 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Live updates from the BBC. Police say 141 out of 153 people known to have died have been identified and their families have been notified, 133 people were injured, and cites officials saying 37 of those sustained serious injuries. Most victims were teenagers and adults in their 20s Twenty foreign nationals are among the dead. Two US citizens were among the fatalities from last night's crush, the US embassy in Seoul has just confirmed. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-63442399 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted October 30, 2022 Author #20 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Number of dead rises to 154 At least 154 people died in the crush on Saturday night, the Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency says. Of those who died, 98 were women and 56 were men. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-63442399 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted November 1, 2022 Author #21 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Seoul crowd crush: PM and police admit failures as memorial services held The death toll from Saturday’s crowd crush during Halloween celebrations in the nightlife district of Itaewon rose to 156 on Tuesday, amid public anger over what some have called a “man-made disaster”. South Korea’s prime minister, Han Duck-soo, has called Saturday’s deadly Halloween crush in Seoul a “disastrous accident that should not have happened”, as the first memorial services were held amid growing public anger. Expressing sorrow to bereaved families, he admitted that institutional failures in managing crowds played a role in the disaster, and said the government would work with all ministries, agencies and medical institutions to ensure such problems during spontaneous events never happened again. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/01/seoul-halloween-crowd-crush-south-korea-itaewon-police-response 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted November 2, 2022 #22 Share Posted November 2, 2022 First calls to police made four hours before Seoul Halloween crush turned deadly Roughly 100,000 people were estimated to be in Itaewon on Saturday, an area known for its hills and narrow alleys. Authorities say there were 137 police officers there at the time. https://news.sky.com/story/first-calls-to-police-made-four-hours-before-seoul-halloween-crush-turned-deadly-12735722 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Waters Posted November 11, 2022 Author #23 Share Posted November 11, 2022 A South Korean police officer, under investigation over the deadly Halloween crush in Seoul, has been found dead at his home in a suspected suicide. The 55-year-old, identified as Inspector Jeong, was an intelligence officer working with the local police. Jeong was a suspect in an investigation over the police's response to the crush, which tragically killed 156 mostly young people, and injured 196. He was suspended on Wednesday, after allegedly covering up police failings. Jeong was accused of ordering colleagues to delete an intelligence report - written ahead of the Halloween event - which warned of the possibility of a serious incident taking place. Local media reports say a family member found the officer at 12:45 local time at his home in northern Seoul on Friday. Police are investigating the circumstances of his death. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63594243 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted November 12, 2022 #24 Share Posted November 12, 2022 So was there even security during this event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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