+Sherapy Posted November 11, 2022 #226 Share Posted November 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: You can walk any path you please, so please do, only a walk away from love is fraught with danger, pain and suffering. And FYI, it is not I that has given out with the insults, that is not on me. For you, being without love is fraught with danger, pain and suffering. What is love to you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #227 Share Posted November 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sherapy said: It is a public forum, CH. It's not that I am here to disrespect, or not to accept other folk's opinions, their differences, it's just that I don't care what other people think, how many times do I have to say it? I care about GOD, who is love, which is my truth. And it is my truth because I know how life goes with this kind of attitude. And I'm only a beginner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #228 Share Posted November 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: Hi Crazy Horse Everyone loves someone look around you with an objective mind it is part of why we are the dominant species on this planet. Humans have loved and protected each other long before any gods were created by man. For you moving forward means agreeing with you so not sure that there can be a discussion with you that will not devolve into you rejecting everything that anyone says. I am not on a pulpit looking for recruits or telling everyone how they are going to hell if they do not accept my belief. You come here to preach and not to be objective Thats all fine and dandy, but all I need from you, is no agreement, just what you believe the benefits, or the positive attributes of love are? You claim that no-one here is denying love, well ok, prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #229 Share Posted November 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Projection on your part, CH. What part exactly is the projection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 11, 2022 #230 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Back When My Hair Was Short Gunhill Road Back when my hair was short I was a white-socked sport Wore pointed shoes and pegged pants Drank 'til my eyes were red Hid "Playboy" 'neath my bed Slicked my D.A. for the dance (When you danced, when you danced) Back when my hair was short I met some friends in court For stealing hubcaps from cars Chain-smoking under the stars Played all night pinball in bars And dreamed about love (Love) We were experts on love We talked our way all around it And even if we had found it We couldn't respond Slowly I changed my ways College and long-haired days Seeing three concerts a week An honest to God hippie freak Too busy eating to speak Except about love (Lo-o-oove) We held rallies for love But no one knew what they stood for How many months were they good for The meaning is gone Soon when my hair is short I'll make a full report Of how I came back alive (Came back, came back alive) And what it takes to survive Wringing the truth out of jive I'll tell you of love (Love) More than ever it's love No lack of faith undermines it Cause it's the hope that we'll find it That makes us go on Back when my hair was short I was a white-socked sport Holding beer parties 'til three College appealed to me Eastern philosophy For non-commercial use only. https://youtu.be/J9-LhgzJpis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 11, 2022 #231 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, Crazy Horse said: It's not that I am here to disrespect, or not to accept other folk's opinions, their differences, it's just that I don't care what other people think, how many times do I have to say it? I care about GOD, who is love, which is my truth. And it is my truth because I know how life goes with this kind of attitude. And I'm only a beginner. This is apparent in your posts, then why are you here? To self validate, remind yourself how special you are? This is not wrong in and of itself, but what purpose does it serve to come on start a thread to share you only care about your g?d construct? I get that for you g?d is your coping system these days. Why the need to start threads on it, we all know your g?d construct, CH. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #232 Share Posted November 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Indeed, it is impossible to have a productive dialog this way. Well said, Jay. That right, folk who flip-flop this way and that, only for the sake of disagreeing with the OP, then it is indeed impossible to have a productive discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted November 11, 2022 #233 Share Posted November 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: You can walk any path you please, so please do, only a walk away from love is fraught with danger, pain and suffering. And FYI, it is not I that has given out with the insults, that is not on me. Hi Crazy Horse Your position is that love only exists if one believes in god and that before you found god that you were not capable of knowing or expressing love. That is an insult to those of us that have no god and still love others because you reject the idea that love can exist without accepting your god. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 11, 2022 #234 Share Posted November 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: Thats all fine and dandy, but all I need from you, is no agreement, just what you believe the benefits, or the positive attributes of love are? You claim that no-one here is denying love, well ok, prove it. Love exists but that in no way is predicated on the existence of God/a god. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #235 Share Posted November 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: I’m not so sure about preaching but I believe his thread would have been better served as a blog as it really brooks no discussion which begs the question why make it a thread to begin with? cormac Er, you are blaming me for the lack of discussion? If you truly believe that, then ask me a serious question, you know it's up to you lot as to which way this flows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 11, 2022 #236 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: What part exactly is the projection? Xeno isn’t here first of all and second of all he is known for his radical honesty, yet it is given fairly and humbly. It can only be you who is angry and cannot stay away. My two cents is you are afraid of your own anger, perhaps it has gotten you in hot water, so coming here starting threads provides an outlet for you to project and release it. Of course, I can be wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 11, 2022 #237 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, Crazy Horse said: Er, you are blaming me for the lack of discussion? If you truly believe that, then ask me a serious question, you know it's up to you lot as to which way this flows. Nope, I’m saying there really is no reason for a discussion. You have a belief, so what? Billions of other people do too. cormac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #238 Share Posted November 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Evidence to you maybe but not to anyone/everyone? else. cormac So? What do you expect me to do about it? I'm not trying to change your mind, I am trying to express my truth, my love, and my beliefs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 11, 2022 #239 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: Er, you are blaming me for the lack of discussion? If you truly believe that, then ask me a serious question, you know it's up to you lot as to which way this flows. What the hell is love? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #240 Share Posted November 11, 2022 33 minutes ago, Sherapy said: It comes of as you are seeking validation and when you do not get it you lash out. I am not seeking validation from you, or anyone else, I don't mind what you think of me, I am free, I am in love, I am that I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 11, 2022 #241 Share Posted November 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: That right, folk who flip-flop this way and that, only for the sake of disagreeing with the OP, then it is indeed impossible to have a productive discussion. It is impossible for you, why is that? Your thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 11, 2022 #242 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: I am not seeking validation from you, or anyone else, I don't mind what you think of me, I am free, I am in love, I am that I am. What is love? Let’s discuss. Edited November 11, 2022 by Sherapy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted November 11, 2022 #243 Share Posted November 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: Thats all fine and dandy, but all I need from you, is no agreement, just what you believe the benefits, or the positive attributes of love are? You claim that no-one here is denying love, well ok, prove it. Hi Crazy Horse Whether you believe or think you know what love is doesn’t change that we all have family and friends that we love. I didn’t ask you to prove your love simply because in this medium you have not been able to demonstrate it with your words and actions here. Yes I think you do love and express it to those close to you that you interact with in the physical world you live in. You do not accept that others that do not share your belief can and do love others as evidenced by your contributions in discussions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 11, 2022 #244 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said: So? What do you expect me to do about it? I'm not trying to change your mind, I am trying to express my truth, my love, and my beliefs etc. And this is a PUBLIC forum, so the real question IMO should be “Why” does anyone else need to know your beliefs? cormac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 11, 2022 #245 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: So? What do you expect me to do about it? I'm not trying to change your mind, I am trying to express my truth, my love, and my beliefs etc. Why is it important to you to express your truth/beliefs? Personally we all have beleifs/personal truths it is the human condition. Edited November 11, 2022 by Sherapy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 11, 2022 #246 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Looks like wringing the truth out of jive is a lot harder than we thought. Hard to have a civil discussion when the OP won't answer questions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 11, 2022 #247 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #248 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Crazy Horse said: Well, you are getting closer. My beliefs are seen as The Universal Truth, but also a subjective experience too. But perhaps you are right about my blindingly positive view, and it can come across as very simplistic at times, but then, GOD is LOVE and we are ONE, isn't such a complex idea. Although, if you want more detail XeonFish, then you only have to ask. Pride by ye sin. 1 hour ago, Crazy Horse said: Says the man who can't keep away from my thread. Even when it triggers him into anger. The only thing I care about is the truth, which is love, which is GOD. And of course, holding fast to those beliefs, experiences, feelings of love. No anger at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted November 11, 2022 #249 Share Posted November 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: That right, folk who flip-flop this way and that, only for the sake of disagreeing with the OP, then it is indeed impossible to have a productive discussion. Hi Crazy Horse Flip flop, what does that mean as they responses that you get are fairly consistent and have been for years. I accept that your belief is yours and am under no obligation to make your belief mine, that is what acceptance means. No one challenges your right to believe what you do which is not something you are willing to allow others. Why do you need to make others submit to your ideals not that you are having much success anyway? Do left handed people bother you? When my older brother went to school they would make him sit on his left hand and force him to use his right hand. That is how your religious perspective comes across as you cannot accept differences. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 11, 2022 #250 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Looks like wringing the truth out of jive is a lot harder than we thought. Hard to have a civil discussion when the OP won't answer questions. Well love is nurtured with basic respect for each other, trust, honesty and communication. Communication is vital to love, crucial in fact, it is how we resolve conflict, communicate needs, understand each other, share ourselves, offer feedback etc. etc. Edited November 11, 2022 by Sherapy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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