Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #251 Share Posted November 11, 2022 37 minutes ago, Sherapy said: What you conclude from an experience that cannot be supported by any facts is only your subjective belief. And, many create an attachment figure or use the g?d construct towards this end. An imaginary figure that sees how special you are, that you define and speak on behalf of. So, you say there are no facts but actually, when a remote viewer helps the police to find a missing person, or a NDEr can hear a whole conversation in another room, even though they are clinically dead, and then repeat that conversation verbatim, is actual proof that consciousness in non-local to the brain, and maybe, in-fact, only ONE. In any event, there's no need to belittle me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 11, 2022 #252 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Crazy Horse said: Well, you are getting closer. My beliefs are seen as The Universal Truth, but also a subjective experience too. But perhaps you are right about my blindingly positive view, and it can come across as very simplistic at times, but then, GOD is LOVE and we are ONE, isn't such a complex idea. Although, if you want more detail XeonFish, then you only have to ask. “Universal Truth” according to whom? If it’s just you and/or like minded individuals then it’s NOT Universal. cormac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #253 Share Posted November 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: What is love? Couldn't help it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #254 Share Posted November 11, 2022 43 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Come on Crazy Horse, this is your thread, your topic, so answer the question, What is Love? I'm waiting for Jay.. But if you really want to know, I've already stated THAT several times already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #255 Share Posted November 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Well love is nurtured with basic respect for each other, trust, honesty and communication. Communication is vital to love, crucial in fact, it is how we resolve conflict, communicate needs, understand each other, share ourselves, offer feedback etc. etc. Not much of a loving relationship when one person puts in all the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #256 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, Crazy Horse said: I'm waiting for Jay.. But if you really want to know, I've already stated THAT several times already. I'm going to start calling Mary. Because we always go round and round with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 11, 2022 #257 Share Posted November 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Well love is nurtured with basic respect for each other, trust, honesty and communication. Communication is vital to love, crucial in fact, it is how we resolve conflict, communicate needs, understand each other, share ourselves etc. etc. There is a myriad of things, objects, beliefs, objective and subjective in life one latches on to. Each one here holds dear at least one that all the others grant little credence to. That's what makes us individuals. if we put that thing on the table for discussion, we can expect some pointed questions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #258 Share Posted November 11, 2022 44 minutes ago, Sherapy said: For you, being without love is fraught with danger, pain and suffering. What is love to you? Love is a protection, a shield from everything bad in the universe. It is the dewdrop upon a blade of grass. It is a smile from a stranger when you most need it. And it is in fact, the Foundation of everything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted November 11, 2022 #259 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Well Crazy Horse it has warmed up enough outside so am logging off to give my Jeep some love, bought some new wheel bearings so that it will no longer have to sing that song of stress for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 11, 2022 #260 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: I'm waiting for Jay.. But if you really want to know, I've already stated THAT several times already. No, you have not. You've danced around it, alluded to as if everyone knows what you're talking about and said how precious it is to you, but you haven't told us what it is. What is love? Edited November 11, 2022 by Hammerclaw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 11, 2022 #261 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said: Love is a protection, a shield from everything bad in the universe. It is the dewdrop upon a blade of grass. It is a smile from a stranger when you most need it. And it is in fact, the Foundation of everything. Not so much! cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #262 Share Posted November 11, 2022 41 minutes ago, Sherapy said: This is apparent in your posts, then why are you here? To self validate, remind yourself how special you are? This is not wrong in and of itself, but what purpose does it serve to come on start a thread to share you only care about your g?d construct? I get that for you g?d is your coping system these days. Why the need to start threads on it, we all know your g?d construct, CH. I am here because love is expansive, creative, joyful and quite sociable, sometimes.. I am here because I have to be here. Why are you here, on this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #263 Share Posted November 11, 2022 41 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: Hi Crazy Horse Your position is that love only exists if one believes in god and that before you found god that you were not capable of knowing or expressing love. That is an insult to those of us that have no god and still love others because you reject the idea that love can exist without accepting your god. I have absolutely no idea where you got that idea from, because I have not said those words, nor expressed those sentiments! GOD, love, exists whether one believes in THAT, or not. I've told you a million times already, I don't mind about your beliefs, I only care about love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #264 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Someone needs a hug. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 11, 2022 #265 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: I am here because love is expansive, creative, joyful and quite sociable, sometimes.. I am here because I have to be here. Why are you here, on this thread? When you start a thread in an open forum, anyone can participate if they so desire, whether they are, simply, intrigued, or have an axe to grind. So, you've placed yourself, in a manner of speaking, in the line of fire, 'listed for forty shillings on-the-drum. Keep your whistle wet and your powder dry and duck every now and again. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #266 Share Posted November 11, 2022 45 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Love exists but that in no way is predicated on the existence of God/a god. cormac Well, GOD is love, you can't have one without the other. Love is the expression of one's own divine nature, and whether one believes that or not is neither here nor there. Ergo, an atheist can love as much as anybody else. But that love is still divine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #267 Share Posted November 11, 2022 48 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Xeno isn’t here first of all and second of all he is known for his radical honesty, yet it is given fairly and humbly. It can only be you who is angry and cannot stay away. My two cents is you are afraid of your own anger, perhaps it has gotten you in hot water, so coming here starting threads provides an outlet for you to project and release it. Of course, I can be wrong. It's my thread, why should I stay away!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 11, 2022 #268 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, Crazy Horse said: Well, GOD is love, you can't have one without the other. Love is the expression of one's own divine nature, and whether one believes that or not is neither here nor there. Ergo, an atheist can love as much as anybody else. But that love is still divine. Your God maybe, not mine as I don’t have the same definition or belief. Which means it’s NOT Universal. Thanks for confirming that. cormac 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 11, 2022 #269 Share Posted November 11, 2022 We certainly like to say God is love, but the 200 or so million who died in wars and political unrest in the twentieth century probably weren't impressed by the quality of that kind of tough love. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #271 Share Posted November 11, 2022 55 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Nope, I’m saying there really is no reason for a discussion. You have a belief, so what? Billions of other people do too. cormac But it's not just a belief. It's a known way of living. A way that is only becoming more and more beautiful as each day pass'. And if you don't think that is worth discussing, then fine, go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 11, 2022 #272 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Crazy Horse said: But it's not just a belief. It's a known way of living. A way that is only becoming more and more beautiful as each day pass'. And if you don't think that is worth discussing, then fine, go away. It’s just one of many. What works for one doesn’t always work for all. cormac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #273 Share Posted November 11, 2022 58 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: What the hell is love? Now now Lil Ham, I'm going through these posts one at a time. Love is patients, love is fine, love is beautiful, love is divine. Love is humour, love can be great, love is an orange, but never a grape. Love is the energy of GOD in the world. The Universe. Love is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 11, 2022 #274 Share Posted November 11, 2022 The thing about love that should be but is never remembered is that no matter how constant and true a love is between two people, one of the pair is fated to leave the other against their will. It is a bitter pill to swallow, especially for the one left behind who must endure the others absence. I know, from my own experience. There truly is no balm in Gilead. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #275 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Love is the greater source of suffering. For what it gives, it takes back ten fold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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