+Nuclear Wessel Posted November 11, 2022 #326 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, cormac mac airt said: It can be a two-way street as one can either love with all their heart and be devastated by a loss yet capable, with time, of moving on or it can consume a person to the point of causing destructive behavior to themselves or others. True. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if these behaviours existed more prominently in those who were already mentally unwell (whether or undiagnosed or otherwise). When I said "in general" that was meant to exclude those who wouldn't have some kind of a predisposition for such behaviours, i.e. neurotypicals. In a lot of cases I think having a strong mental model can really help to reduce suffering, significantly - but of course this won't necessarily be applicable for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #327 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, XenoFish said: Better than being a special kind of stupid. Oh that hurt XenoFish. Oh, I'm not laughing any more. Ouh, it even hurts when I laugh. Ouch, its worse than before. Ah, THAT is better, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 11, 2022 #328 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: True. I wouldn't be surprised, though, if these behaviours existed more prominently in those who were already mentally unwell (whether or undiagnosed or otherwise). When I said "in general" that was meant to exclude those who wouldn't have some kind of a predisposition for such behaviours, i.e. neurotypicals. In a lot of cases I think having a strong mental model can really help to reduce suffering, significantly - but of course this won't necessarily be applicable for everybody. It’s an open question to me as I’ve seen it go either way in people I’ve known. And sometimes completely out of the blue. cormac Edited November 11, 2022 by cormac mac airt Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #329 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said: Look Linus, you keep on believing in the Great Pumpkin and maybe he'll come next year. Just ignore all those mean kids who believe in the guy in the red suit that goes ho-ho-ho. See, comedy without love is just... Well, sub-funny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Horse Posted November 11, 2022 Author #330 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Hammerclaw said: Really, very true. You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to think people won't judge you. And you have to be a special kind of deaf to not hear me say. I don't care if you judge me, or love, or anything. I am happy and at peace, with THAT I call LOVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #331 Share Posted November 11, 2022 39 minutes ago, Nuclear Wessel said: I don't necessarily agree. Love can certainly bring hardship, but in general I think one's mental framework can mitigate suffering quite significantly. Attachment to loss is an even greater source of suffering. It's a coin. Heads or tails. Bring both joy and pain. Too greater or lesser degrees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted November 11, 2022 #332 Share Posted November 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: Hello, Will, was hoping you might show up. But what does that flag mean, please? Hi CH, It is: "the banner of Michael, the material emblem of the Trinity government of all creation, the three azure blue concentric circles on a white background." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #333 Share Posted November 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: I am happy and at peace, with THAT I call LOVE. Doesn't look like. It looks more like a mask you're wearing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 11, 2022 #334 Share Posted November 11, 2022 4 hours ago, XenoFish said: Not much of a loving relationship when one person puts in all the effort. Indeed, there would be no opening for a relationship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 11, 2022 #335 Share Posted November 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Hammerclaw said: There is a myriad of things, objects, beliefs, objective and subjective in life one latches on to. Each one here holds dear at least one that all the others grant little credence to. That's what makes us individuals. if we put that thing on the table for discussion, we can expect some pointed questions. Exactly, then one brings in the subjective aspect to love. Tell us yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #337 Share Posted November 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, Crazy Horse said: If you would only appreciate love, then you wouldn't have to ask me such a question. I mean, that's got to be the easiest way to debunk me, (or love) by trying it out for, like a day, and seeing how much better off you feel. Love is an energy that cannot be contained, what can I say!! Love is a neurochemical reaction in the brain. You'll crash once you've peak your hedonistic curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 11, 2022 #338 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Will Due said: oo yay, some Atlantis-like fantasy. Somebody alert Piney. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #339 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Love is great if you love to murder, rape, torture, pursue the love of excessive indulgences (gluttony and greed). The love of self (narcissism/pride). Perhaps a strong love for another (stalking). Maybe even the love of sensual gratification (diseases, unwanted pregnancy, etc. Also known as lust). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 11, 2022 #340 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Crazy Horse said: But it's not just a belief. It's a known way of living. A way that is only becoming more and more beautiful as each day pass'. And if you don't think that is worth discussing, then fine, go away. Everyone on here has love, beautiful moments a beautiful journey and paths that work best for them. Either you never have and are experiencing this for the first time or you somehow think you are the only one. If you took the time to read our posts and care about us, you would see for yourself that there are many kool paths on here each person sharing in each other’s journey, seeing our common humanity and sharing some beautiful stories. Cormac had a love with his wife that was inspiring. Xeno, has an amazing family and a wife and kids he loves and a life he finds worth living. Jay has deep love for his friends and community and his family, his stories are beautiful. Hammer is a romantic soul. I personally am with the love of my life and am better as a human because of him. My kids humble me. Why not get to know us. Edited November 11, 2022 by Sherapy 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 11, 2022 #341 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Sherapy said: Xeno, has an amazing family and a wife and kids he loves and a life he finds worth living. You and a few others have a better knowledge of my person. Most people on here are locked into the idea I am depressed 24/7 and pure grumpy. All I can say is I know the pain love can cause. How loving and caring for someone when everything is on the edge can break a person. Not many see that, they seen a very annoying miserable person. I know other have been through similar in their own way. Just various level of it. Edited November 11, 2022 by XenoFish 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 12, 2022 #342 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, XenoFish said: You and a few others have a better knowledge of my person. Most people on here are locked into the idea I am depressed 24/7 and pure grumpy. All I can say is I know the pain love can cause. How loving and caring for someone when everything is on the edge can break a person. Not many see that, they seen a very annoying miserable person. I know other have been through similar in their own way. Just various level of it. Those that diminish others to a few verbs really diminish themselves. You are authentically yourself and on my list of great examples of resilience, honesty, humility and a truly kind loving heart. Edited November 12, 2022 by Sherapy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted November 12, 2022 #343 Share Posted November 12, 2022 4 hours ago, cormac mac airt said: And apparently listen to the vacuous ramblings of someone who claims “Love is a protection, a shield from everything bad in the universe”. Not very protective nor shielding IMO when it comes to the loss of a loved one, especially when it happens frequently. cormac I concur love isn’t the magic fix all, at times it can help get one thru and it can also be be pure hell especially after the loss of a beloved. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 12, 2022 #344 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Crazy Horse said: Love isn't escaping from the world, but joining in, having fun, being present. Sitting alone for hours in front of a computer screen isn't "joining in". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 12, 2022 #345 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, XenoFish said: You and a few others have a better knowledge of my person. Most people on here are locked into the idea I am depressed 24/7 and pure grumpy. All I can say is I know the pain love can cause. How loving and caring for someone when everything is on the edge can break a person. Not many see that, they seen a very annoying miserable person. I know other have been through similar in their own way. Just various level of it. Well of course you’re grumpy, that’s why we like you, you’re not afraid to be who you are warts and all. cormac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 12, 2022 #346 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Crazy Horse said: Listen mate, but, you can actually try this stuff, this (hard stuff) out, for yourself, then youz will know what all the fuss is about. I'm 68, young padawan, I was trying stuff out before you were a twinkle in your father's eye. Imagination is a wonderful thing, but it needs a big material assist to be viable. Talking about love and rolling your eyes up into your skull and drooling over weirdness isn't love, either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 12, 2022 #347 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Crazy Horse said: And you have to be a special kind of deaf to not hear me say. I don't care if you judge me, or love, or anything. I am happy and at peace, with THAT I call LOVE. Goody for you, I hope it lasts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted November 12, 2022 #348 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Will Due said: I prefer Stargate Atlantis, myself. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted November 12, 2022 #349 Share Posted November 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, Sherapy said: I concur love isn’t the magic fix all, at times it can help get one thru and it can also be be pure hell especially after the loss of a beloved. Very well said Sheri, there is no doubt that one’s love for another can become pure hell especially as we are forced to watch a loved one deteriorate and eventually loose them. But there is also a positive side to these terrible situations, because in the end at least we know that during that passing our loved one wasn’t alone and that they were surrounded by those that loved them. In my opinion if we can easy our loved ones passing there is no better way to go, no matter how painful it is for those of us left behind! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted November 12, 2022 #350 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Will Due said: You know Will your cryptic addition of photos is kind strange, I must ask what is your point here? Edited November 12, 2022 by Grim Reaper 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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