cormac mac airt Posted November 12, 2022 #376 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Just now, Dejarma said: hmmm maybe but in my opinion they realized what utter BS it is== i mean, the Greeks are clever, aint they Maybe but the Jews are more clever IMO. Look what they did, merged two entirely different gods from disparate cultures together and over time convinced everyone that said deity had “always” existed as the sole Creator. People bought into the new God when all the rest failed them. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 12, 2022 #377 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Will Due said: After people stopped believing in the ancient gods, they started believing in the eternal God who's real. That they did long before it was ever described in writing. "The eternal God is infinitely more than reality idealized or the universe personalized. God is not simply the supreme desire of man, the mortal quest objectified. Neither is God merely a concept, the power-potential of righteousness. The Universal Father is not a synonym for nature, neither is he natural law personified. God is a transcendent reality, not merely man’s traditional concept of supreme values. God is not a psychological focalization of spiritual meanings, neither is he “the noblest work of man.” God may be any or all of these concepts in the minds of men, but he is more. He is a saving person and a loving Father to all who enjoy spiritual peace on earth, and who crave to experience personality survival in death. Nice bit of fiction, definitely wrong though. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 12, 2022 #378 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Will Due said: After people stopped believing in the ancient gods, they started believing in the eternal God who's real. oh right.. well you know best, as those did who believed in Thor Oden etc etc at the time: if there is such a thing as a kinda galactic federation out there; IMO it's quite possible they will only make contact once us humans get past the belief in god/s stage of evolution- which they are probably used to over the years.... Still, see how it goes, oh what fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 12, 2022 #379 Share Posted November 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Maybe but the Jews are more clever IMO. Look what they did, merged two entirely different gods from disparate cultures together and over time convinced everyone that said deity had “always” existed as the sole Creator. People bought into the new God when all the rest failed them. cormac yeah good point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted November 12, 2022 #380 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) Again long before it was reduced to writing and after people stopped believing in the litany of ancient gods, people already knew this to be true about the existential God: “God is spirit.” He is a universal spiritual presence. The Universal Father is an infinite spiritual reality; he is “the sovereign, eternal, immortal, invisible, and only true God.” Even though you are “the offspring of God,” you ought not to think that the Father is like yourselves in form and physique because you are said to be created “in his image”—indwelt by Mystery Monitors dispatched from the central abode of his eternal presence. Edited November 12, 2022 by Will Due 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 12, 2022 #381 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Will Due said: “God is spirit.” He is a universal spiritual presence. The Universal Father is an infinite spiritual reality; he is “the sovereign, eternal, immortal, invisible, and only true God.” Even though you are “the offspring of God,” you ought not to think that the Father is like yourselves in form and physique because you are said to be created “in his image”—indwelt by Mystery Monitors dispatched from the central abode of his eternal presence. Spirit beings are real, notwithstanding they are invisible to human eyes; even though they have not flesh and blood. where did you copy/ paste this from? you can't even show respect by saying it in your own words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted November 12, 2022 #382 Share Posted November 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dejarma said: where did you copy/ paste this from? you can't even show respect by saying it in your own words Urantia Book. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted November 12, 2022 #383 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dejarma said: where did you copy/ paste this from? From the Urantia Book. You know, that contact you referred to that would happen when: 9 minutes ago, Dejarma said: once us humans get past the belief in god/s stage of evolution- which they are probably used to over the years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 12, 2022 #384 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Dejarma said: yeah, i agree age has nothing to do with it! once a gullible indoctrinated idiot, always a gullible indoctrinated idiot- what can you do That is not true. I un-indoctrinated successfully. I was fully indoctrinated as a fundamentalist Pentecostal and I de-converted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 12, 2022 #385 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Will Due said: From the Urantia Book. yep, no thoughts of your own then ,,, nothing new there when trying to converse with folk like you... say something interesting.. impress me. if you fail then you're not doing gods work, are ya!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 12, 2022 #386 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Are we free to discuss anything at this point? I read the OP, no…I don’t feel universal love or anything about Christ rising. I don’t believe in Jesus, Christmas or the Easter Bunny. I think we live in a strange harsh world where the struggle for survival is real, and religion is pretty much make believe. FWIW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 12, 2022 #387 Share Posted November 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Guyver said: That is not true. I un-indoctrinated successfully. I was fully indoctrinated as a fundamentalist Pentecostal and I de-converted. but still an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 12, 2022 #388 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Just now, Dejarma said: but still an idiot? Really? Are you still a dusty old fart? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 12, 2022 #389 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Guyver said: Really? Are you still a dusty old fart? yes i am.. & still a very rich & highly intelligent dusty old fart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 12, 2022 #390 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Just now, Dejarma said: yes i am.. & still a very rich & highly intelligent dusty old fart Haha. Right on. Well, I’m headed in your direction. I’m wearing Icy Hot on my back right now, even though I only played nine holes. To my credit, I was hungover and had a touch of sciatica, but still won the game. So, technically I should be praised. But whatever, it fricking sucks getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 12, 2022 #391 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dejarma said: yes i am.. & still a very rich & highly intelligent dusty old fart Better to be smart than stupid. Or, maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted November 12, 2022 #392 Share Posted November 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dejarma said: yep, no thoughts of your own then I thought you wanted to know what was said about it through the contact that occurred because of people like you who have come along that don't think about God like they did in ancient times? So I provided it for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 12, 2022 #393 Share Posted November 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Guyver said: To my credit, I was hungover and had a touch of sciatica, but still won the game. oh fekin wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted November 12, 2022 #394 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) Here's something else we've been contacted about: "When you are through down here, when your course has been run in temporary form on earth, when your trial trip in the flesh is finished, when the dust that composes the mortal tabernacle “returns to the earth whence it came”; then, it is revealed, the indwelling “Spirit shall return to God who gave it.” There sojourns within each moral being of this planet a fragment of God, a part and parcel of divinity. It is not yet yours by right of possession, but it is designedly intended to be one with you if you survive the mortal existence. "the greatest of all the unfathomable mysteries of God is the phenomenon of the divine indwelling of mortal minds. The manner in which the Universal Father sojourns with the creatures of time is the most profound of all universe mysteries; the divine presence in the mind of man is the mystery of mysteries. And thankfully, there is nothing to fear. Edited November 12, 2022 by Will Due 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 12, 2022 #395 Share Posted November 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dejarma said: oh fekin wonderful You know, if you don’t know what it’s like to become successful at golf, you shouldn’t mock. I used to mock it until I tried to play it, and now I know it is really hard to get good. But, whatever, to each his own. Some people enjoy riding rapids. I don’t. And, I also don’t want to die in a fiery plane crash. I want to meet my maker in one of two ways….One. Struck by lightning and killed instantly on the golf course. Two, stroke out during sexual intercourse. Having considered that would be a real bummer for my sex partner, I go for option one out of consideration and respect. Still, if God ain’t gonna kill me by lightning, I’ll take number two. 7 minutes ago, Dejarma said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 12, 2022 #396 Share Posted November 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Will Due said: Here's something else we've been contacted about: "When you are through down here, when your course has been run in temporary form on earth, when your trial trip in the flesh is finished, when the dust that composes the mortal tabernacle “returns to the earth whence it came”; then, it is revealed, the indwelling “Spirit shall return to God who gave it.” There sojourns within each moral being of this planet a fragment of God, a part and parcel of divinity. It is not yet yours by right of possession, but it is designedly intended to be one with you if you survive the mortal existence. "the greatest of all the unfathomable mysteries of God is the phenomenon of the divine indwelling of mortal minds. The manner in which the Universal Father sojourns with the creatures of time is the most profound of all universe mysteries; the divine presence in the mind of man is the mystery of mysteries. And thankfully, there is nothing to fear. Do you believe in alien abduction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper 6 Posted November 12, 2022 #397 Share Posted November 12, 2022 57 minutes ago, Sherapy said: So well said. Thank you for sharing. You are so right as a professional caregiver I see many sides of love. There is something to be said for having someone stay by your side thru an illness or terminal diagnosis. The hardest part of my job is losing those I love and have cared for. Thank you for your comments and I can certainly understand how heart breaking it can be to be a caregiver. It’s impossible to not become attached to the ones you take care of, the caregivers that worked along side my wife and I caring for our daughter before she passed in October 2012 were devastated. During her funeral we had caregivers going back more than 10 years, and even Doctors who had cared for Sarah over years attend her funeral. I believe that this was mainly to pay a final tribute to my wife for the absolutely unselfish wonderful care that she dedicated her life to while Sarah was alive. I can taken little credit do to my military career which kept me gone so much, but thankfully I was home the day she left us, and that my wife and I had so many years with Sarah even under the circumstances. I feel that the most tragic and terrible thing any parent can experience is out living their child. This is not something that should ever occur and it’s impossible to justify in one’s mind. However, when one does everything possible to give that child the love along with the best care possible over time it certainly prevents guilt from the loss and while the pain never goes away you find a way to live with it without regret. Thanks for your thoughts and comments Sheri! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 12, 2022 #398 Share Posted November 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Will Due said: Here's something else we've been contacted about: "When you are through down here, when your course has been run in temporary form on earth, when your trial trip in the flesh is finished, when the dust that composes the mortal tabernacle “returns to the earth whence it came”; then, it is revealed, the indwelling “Spirit shall return to God who gave it.” There sojourns within each moral being of this planet a fragment of God, a part and parcel of divinity. It is not yet yours by right of possession, but it is designedly intended to be one with you if you survive the mortal existence. "the greatest of all the unfathomable mysteries of God is the phenomenon of the divine indwelling of mortal minds. The manner in which the Universal Father sojourns with the creatures of time is the most profound of all universe mysteries; the divine presence in the mind of man is the mystery of mysteries. And thankfully, there is nothing to fear. If God exists, and it went in your mind, you would explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 12, 2022 #399 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Will Due said: Here's something else we've been contacted about: "When you are through down here, when your course has been run in temporary form on earth, when your trial trip in the flesh is finished, when the dust that composes the mortal tabernacle “returns to the earth whence it came”; then, it is revealed, the indwelling “Spirit shall return to God who gave it.” There sojourns within each moral being of this planet a fragment of God, a part and parcel of divinity. It is not yet yours by right of possession, but it is designedly intended to be one with you if you survive the mortal existence. "the greatest of all the unfathomable mysteries of God is the phenomenon of the divine indwelling of mortal minds. The manner in which the Universal Father sojourns with the creatures of time is the most profound of all universe mysteries; the divine presence in the mind of man is the mystery of mysteries. your problem is you don't realize how god dam (excuse the pun) fekin stupid you look in front of people like me when posting stuff like this... In X amount of years time (hopefully the sooner the better) people like your good self will stop this crap as they did with regards to the gods I put forward earlier... Yes== this is a cliché question but IMO a logical one: why did god make me an atheist??? Answer this question or shut the fek up & don't bore me!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guyver Posted November 12, 2022 #400 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Dejarma said: your problem is you don't realize how god dam (excuse the pun) fekin stupid you look in front of people like me when posting stuff like this... In X amount of years time (hopefully the sooner the better) people like your good self will stop this crap as they did with regards to the gods I put forward earlier... Yes== this is a cliché question but IMO a logical one: why did god make me an atheist??? Answer this question or shut the fek up & don't bore me!!! Your old enough to already know the answer Dejarma. God didn’t make you that. You chose it because you have free will. Like Adam and Eve in the Garden. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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