Christ Rising

[Dejarma]

1 minute ago, Guyver said:

Your old enough to already know the answer Dejarma.  God didn’t make you that.  You chose it because you have free will. Like Adam and Eve in the Garden.

but god wants me to believe in her/ him.. yes!?!? so why don't i??? the all powerful etc yet i don't believe.. are you not confused?

[Will Due]

17 minutes ago, Guyver said:

Do you believe in alien abduction?

No

[Dejarma]

Just now, Will Due said:

No

because there's no evidence? 

[Guyver]

Just now, Will Due said:

No

Thank you for your honesty.  But, you do believe that aliens did write that book you quote?

[Will Due]

13 minutes ago, Guyver said:

If God exists, and it went in your mind, you would explode.

 

But we don't explode, because time, I suppose, acts as a cushion.

 

 

[Will Due]

14 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

why did god make me an atheist??? 

 

Probably so he could contact you.

 

 

[Guyver]

4 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

because there's no evidence? 

There’s evidence it could be real.  Benny and Barney Hill baby.  Smoke it.

[Guyver]

9 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

but god wants me to believe in her/ him.. yes!?!? so why don't i??? the all powerful etc yet i don't believe.. are you not confused?

Only people who believe can tell you what God wants.

[Dejarma]

Just now, Will Due said:

 

Probably so he could contact you.

 

 

nope, don't understand  that

[Will Due]

5 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

because there's no evidence? 

 

No. There is evidence. Just not of alien abduction.

 

 

[Dejarma]

Just now, Guyver said:

Only people who believe can tell you what God wants.

so how do i get to believe? i'm confused

[Guyver]

Just now, Will Due said:

 

No. There is evidence. Just not of alien abduction.

 

 

Benny and Barney Hill.  Smoke on it.

[Dejarma]

1 minute ago, Will Due said:

 

No. There is evidence. Just not of alien abduction.

 

 

evidence of what?

[Guyver]

Just now, Dejarma said:

so how do i get to believe? i'm confused

You don’t.  By saying that only believers can tell you what God wants, is saying no one knows.  You’ll know if there’s a God on the day you take your last breath, or you will know nothing.  Just like everyone else.

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 hour ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Grim

Yes it’s true to an extent, many many years ago I realized that problems were like math because they can be broken down to a root cause. Many problems in life are generated through self so that is where we should look for solutions first as far as I am concerned and have employed in my life.

I have often heard believes make the claim that unbelievers blame god which is ridiculous. Only someone who believes in god cam blame god, as an unbeliever myself do have to wonder why they would think that I would single out their god out of the multitudes of gods just so I can blame things on something I don’t think exists.

Jay it’s a factual thing to say that approximately 90% of the bad situations and problems we encounter in life are brought about by our own actions. However, there are a small number of situations that occur that add a great deal of pain to our lives that are beyond our control. Personally the worst situation that even occurred in my life was the loss of my daughter in October 2012 do to an illness that occurred in the 1980s and which finally took her away from me and wife. Even with that said my wife and I never blamed anyone or any deity for her illness, there is no time for such nonsense in a situation like that. All one can do to adapt to the changes life has brought you, and to make certain ones loved one gets the best care humanly possible.

Jay I believe what defines us as people is how well we adapt to situations beyond our control these situations are the hardest situations that anyone can deal with because either one stands up or they fail the ones they love. In my opinion if one fails, the self recriminations and regret will destroy that individual because all the blame falls upon their shoulders. While I am not trying to criticize anyones faith or beliefs and if some get comfort from them more power to them. But in my practiced beliefs I will stick with personal responsibility and accountability in these situations because who else will care for another’s loved ones if one doesn’t do so themselves at any personal cost necessary.

Take care Jay. 

1 hour ago, jmccr8 said:

Stuff happens in life and if something goes wrong learn and adapt as it happened in a physical world that we can exercise influence on to change it and ourselves.

I agree Jay we must adapt to what life my throw at us, especially in situations that occur that are totally beyond our control.

[Dejarma]

1 minute ago, Guyver said:

You don’t.  By saying that only believers can tell you what God wants, is saying no one knows.  You’ll know if there’s a God on the day you take your last breath, or you will know nothing.  Just like everyone else.

were you brought up with god from birth or did god come to you in a dream whatever= why do you believe?

[Will Due]

2 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

evidence of what?

 

Evidence that the human race has been contacted since people do not take belief in the ancient gods serious anymore.

 

 

[Guyver]

What makes the Betty and Barney Hill case so especially compelling, is the circumstance of it release.  The psychotherapist betrayed them.  They never authorized their story be told, until it was already done so fraudulently.

[Guyver]

2 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

were you brought up with god from birth or did god come to you in a dream whatever= why do you believe?

Brought up as a Catholic.  Baptized, Confirmed, and altar boy.  No pediphile priests in my history.  Then I converted to born-again Christian at 17 years. 

[Dejarma]

2 minutes ago, Guyver said:

What makes the Betty and Barney Hill case so especially compelling

to you it's compelling but to most it's not.. but hey- you enjoy the stories so who am i to say you can't... have fun

[Dejarma]

2 minutes ago, Guyver said:

Brought up as a Catholic.  Baptized, Confirmed, and altar boy.

well no surprise there .. you'll get over it, but probably not- oh joy

[Will Due]

2 minutes ago, Guyver said:

What makes the Betty and Barney Hill case so especially compelling, is the circumstance of it release.  The psychotherapist betrayed them.  They never authorized their story be told, until it was already done so fraudulently.

 

I don't think it's unusual to wake up immediately from a dream and have a hard time realizing it wasn't real. It was just a dream.

I think in some cases it becomes overwhelming. And a person might linger for a long time if not for the rest of their lives thinking that the premise of the dream was real when in actuality it wasn't. 

Then you factor in how a woman often, at least it was often in the past, would preoccupy herself to submit to every whim and desire that she thought her husband desired.

Etc.

 

 

 

[Guyver]

10 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

to you it's compelling but to most it's not.. but hey- you enjoy the stories so who am i to say you can't... have fun

bull****.  Do some research. The Benny and Barney Hilll case was accepted by a significant number of people I. America, and around the world.  It was a real thing. Culturally.  And perhaps in reality?  

[Guyver]

6 minutes ago, Will Due said:

 

I don't think it's unusual to wake up immediately from a dream and have a hard time realizing it wasn't real. It was just a dream.

I think in some cases it becomes overwhelming. And a person might linger for a long time if not for the rest of their lives thinking that the premise of the dream was real when in actuality it wasn't. 

Then you factor in how a woman often, at least it was often in the past, would preoccupy herself to submit to every whim and desire that she thought her husband desired.

Etc.

 

 

 

Two people can’t share the same dreams.  

[Guyver]

8 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

well no surprise there .. you'll get over it, but probably not- oh joy

Whatever. We’re all gonna die some day.  Some people die badly.