4 college students found murdered In Idaho.

[docyabut2]

1 hour ago, docyabut2 said:

the bedroom  Ethan  was in, was right next to the kitchen  

I should have said, the bedroom Ethan was in, was nearest the kitchen

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https://www.abc15.com/news/region-west-valley/avondale/friend-speaks-out-after-valley-college-student-among-4-killed-in-idaho

As the community grows impatient in the search for a killer, police in Idaho are now vocalizing their efforts.

They have collected more than 100 pieces of evidence and have taken over 4,000 photos with multiple 3D scans of the scene. They've also processed more than 1,000 tips and completed over 150 interviews.

"I know we won't be defined by tragedy but how we respond to it. We mourn the loss of these beautiful young people, and we will relentlessly pursue justice on their behalf," said Moscow Deputy City Supervisor Tyler Palmer.

Police also announced that law enforcement presence will be heavy following the holiday break.

[docyabut2]

I still think that killer could be  Ethan`s ex psycho girl friend who slaughtered him and his girlfriends

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https://abc7chicago.com/4-students-killed-at-university-of-idaho-murder-updates-moscow-murders-police-department/12497061/

Investigators are reviewing more than 260 digital submissions -- including videos and photos -- by the public to an FBI link, the Moscow Police Department said Friday night.

Detectives are requesting all available videos, whether there appears to be motion and content or not, police said in a news release late Friday.

"Detectives are also seeking additional tips and surveillance video of any unusual behavior on the night of November 12th into the early hours of November 13th while Kaylee and Madison were in downtown Moscow and while Ethan and Xana were at the Sigma Chi house," the release said. "Anyone who observed unusual behavior near these areas or has video surveillance is asked to submit their tips."

Friday night, police released a revised timeline in the movements of two of the victims prior to their deaths, saying Kaylee Goncalves and Madison Mogen returned home at 1:56 a.m. and not 1:45 a.m., as previously reported.

Investigators have sent 113 pieces of physical evidence they collected to the Idaho State Police crime lab for analysis, Moscow police said in the Friday update.

Police said earlier this week that they've combed through more than 1,000 tips and interviewed more than 150 people.

Idaho Gov. Brad Little has committed up to $1 million for expenses related to the ongoing investigation, Idaho State Police Col. Kedrick Wills said during a press conference earlier this week.

More than 45 investigators from the FBI, state police and Moscow police are involved in the murder case.

 

Authorities have said they have not ruled out that more than one person may have been involved in the killings. Police believe the attack was targeted.

While rumors surrounding the murders swirl through the town of about 25,000, police have said they will only release vetted information that does not hinder the investigation.

"There is speculation without factual backing, stoking community fears and spreading false facts" Friday's release stated. Police are encouraging the public to reference "official releases for accurate information and updated progress" on the investigation.

"The fear in the community is going to grow, and not just because of the rumors. This case is so dreadful and it is so concerning that people are really frightened," said Mary Ellen O'Toole, a former special agent and senior profiler for FBI.

 

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They said on the news tonight that the crime scene was very messy and police think there's a good chance the killer left some DNA behind.

https://news.yahoo.com/idaho-state-crime-lab-prioritizes-173012735.html

MOSCOW, Idaho – The Idaho state crime lab has prioritized testing on evidence from the Moscow home where four University of Idaho students were murdered on Nov. 13, according to authorities.

Idaho State Police (ISP) Forensic Services is "doing much of the forensics analysis" in the case, which is a "priority for them," ISP Public Information Officer Aaron Snell told Fox News Digital in a Friday interview.

"There have been scientists working 24/7 in the lab to try and get back some of those results in quick order," Snell continued. "So, while there's other cases going on, this case is a priority. And we're starting to get back some results."

While it is unclear exactly how long it will take authorities to determine whether DNA that did not belong to any of the victims was left at the scene of the crime, results will "go to the detectives" when they become available, Snell explained.

The evidence will help create a "full picture" of the crime scene and what exactly unfolded in the early morning hours of Nov. 13, when the four students were stabbed to death while sleeping.

"We're going to be patient. We're going to be thorough. And…we also ask that the community recognize that there are some aspects of this investigation that will take us a little bit longer, but we're going to continue to work through," Snell said.

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This is a good article for people to read.

https://news.yahoo.com/idaho-murders-live-victim-father-145802455.html

Families of Idaho murder victims beg for calm as conspiracists hijack case

Families of the Idaho murder victims, separated by hundreds of miles but united in sorrow, have begun the process of publicly grieving.

The first of four services was held on Monday in the Washington State hometown of 20-year-old Ethan Chapin, the sole male victim of the quadruple homicide more than a week earlier near the University of Idaho. He was found brutally stabbed along with his girlfriend, Xana Kernodle, 20, and her roommates Kaylee Goncalves, 21, and Madison Mogen, 21. All four were UI students and their killer is still at large.

Ethan’s memorial was closed to the media. As hundreds gathered to pay their respects, the three other victims’ families were also grieving six hours away in Idaho – and pleading for an end to wild speculation about the case that has both amplified their pain and complicated investigations.

“All the noise out there is really harming the families,” a friend of Kristi and Steve Goncalves, Kaylee’s parents, told The Independent. “And it’s taking the police down trails that are not real and taking them away from the ones that are.”

[Raptor Witness]

6 hours ago, susieice said:

"The fear in the community is going to grow, and not just because of the rumors. This case is so dreadful and it is so concerning that people are really frightened," said Mary Ellen O'Toole, a former special agent and senior profiler for FBI.

No more than the fear of someone living in the gang infected projects of Chicago.

Killing white, college age kids, in their sleep, is not enough sport for a serial killer, and it’s too risky and too difficult to be a newbie.

Revenge?  They had no obvious enemies.  That’s hard to hide in a small town.

No one has reported any obvious motive.

That leaves terrorism …. 

Could it be homegrown, of course, but what’s the message?  

How come no one has offered a giant reward for information leading to the killer, or did I miss that?

The police need to show more of their hand, before this house of cards comes crashing down on the parade of innocent onlookers.

Listening and watching these local policemen, is only adding to the local anxiety.

[docyabut2]

One reason for not  finding that suspect, is the two surviving  girls that called more kids to come over before the police got there. Those kids that came over contaminated that  scene. 

[+susieice]

8 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

No more than the fear of someone living in the gang infected projects of Chicago.

Killing white, college age kids, in their sleep, is not enough sport for a serial killer, and it’s too risky and too difficult to be a newbie.

Revenge?  They had no obvious enemies.  That’s hard to hide in a small town.

No one has reported any obvious motive.

That leaves terrorism …. 

Could it be homegrown, of course, but what’s the message?  

How come no one has offered a giant reward for information leading to the killer, or did I miss that?

The police need to show more of their hand, before this house of cards comes crashing down on the parade of innocent onlookers.

Listening and watching these local policemen, is only adding to the local anxiety.

BS

[+susieice]

This may not have been a first time killer. Police are investigating. They are going to investigate everything that comes their way. That doesn't mean the two crimes will turn out to be related.

https://nypost.com/2022/11/25/mom-of-slain-oregon-man-speaks-out-after-cops-eye-link-to-idaho-murders

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/idaho-police-investigating-quadruple-murders-asked-about-similarities-to-2021-unsolved-oregon-stabbing-attack/ar-AA14uh0D

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11466427/Cops-probe-link-Idaho-murders-similar-Oregon-stabbing-couple-beds-year.html

[Raptor Witness]

4 hours ago, susieice said:

BS

You didn’t refute a single point I’ve made, with any alternative arguments of substance. 

The lack of a reward is odd, if you’re trying to encourage people to turn over their camera data.

The family of one of the victims has made a puzzling statement. Source

“Moscow police believe that only one of the four University of Idaho students stabbed to death in an off-campus rental home was the intended “target” of the quadruple murders, according to the father of victim Kaylee Goncalves.

Ever since law enforcement made the grim discovery on 13 November, officials have described the attack as “targeted” but have refused to reveal what has led them to that conclusion.

“I’ve been told it’s one, but then again, there’s the bigness like it’s purposely big,” Steve Goncalves said on Wednesday.”

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Eventually, these 911 callers, and the survivors are going to have to come out of hiding.

You would think that some of the deceased family members would’ve spoken to the survivors by now, and conveyed something interesting, but this is being kept hidden from U.S. Not one peep has leaked out? Why?

The most logical reason for the secrecy is a fear of the truth, by the survivors AND the authorities.

If who is that scary, we’ve got a bigger problem than this imaginary ghost that we’re now chasing.

My bet is, this is the work of a professional killer, and that’s the giant fear that the government AND these survivors have, not compromising the investigation.

Edited November 27, 2022 by Raptor Witness

[jmccr8]

40 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

You didn’t refute a single point I’ve made, with any alternative arguments of substance. 

The lack of a reward is odd, if you’re trying to encourage people to turn over their camera data.

The family of one of the victims has made a puzzling statement. Source

“Moscow police believe that only one of the four University of Idaho students stabbed to death in an off-campus rental home was the intended “target” of the quadruple murders, according to the father of victim Kaylee Goncalves.

Ever since law enforcement made the grim discovery on 13 November, officials have described the attack as “targeted” but have refused to reveal what has led them to that conclusion.

“I’ve been told it’s one, but then again, there’s the bigness like it’s purposely big,” Steve Goncalves said on Wednesday.”

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Eventually, these 911 callers, and the survivors are going to have to come out of hiding.

You would think that some of the deceased family members would’ve spoken to the survivors by now, and conveyed something interesting, but this is being kept hidden from U.S. Not one peep has leaked out? Why?

The most logical reason for the secrecy is a fear of the truth, by the survivors AND the authorities.

If who is that scary, we’ve got a bigger problem than this imaginary ghost that we’re now chasing.

My bet is, this is the work of a professional killer, and that’s the giant fear that the government AND these survivors have, not compromising the investigation.

Hi Raptor

 Not sure why you think Susieice needs to refute your baseless speculations. You are doing exactly what the parents asked people not to do. Why are you reacting to this case in this manner? The police are doing their job and answers will be brought out at the appropriate time so best to wait to see how this develops.

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This is from 4 days ago.

 

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This is from 12 hours ago. This person is the Communications Officer from the Idaho State Police.

 

From 5 hours ago. They seem to have ruled out the Oregon case. 

 

Edited November 27, 2022 by susieice

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15 minutes ago, susieice said:

This is from 4 days ago.

 

Mary-Ellen O'Toole, the former FBI agent, gives an interesting insight.

[+susieice]

Kaylee Goncalves' father has talked about the investigation. This was posted 9 hours ago.

 

[docyabut2]

• The only other way a killer may have entered would be through the sliding door next to the kitchen 
•  I believe Ethan was the target, he was in the second floor bedroom nearest  the kitchen when in the kitchen  a stool  was knock over by the killer  

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8 minutes ago, ouija ouija said:

Mary-Ellen O'Toole, the former FBI agent, gives an interesting insight.

She sure does. About the weapon and the personality of the killer.

[+susieice]

6 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

• The only other way a killer may have entered would be through the sliding door next to the kitchen 
•  I believe Ethan was the target, he was in the second floor bedroom nearest  the kitchen when in the kitchen  a stool  was knock over by the killer  

Every report has made it clear that Ethan didn't live there. Just the five girls did. He was just spending the night there with his girlfriend. If he was the target, the killer has to be someone who knew he would be there that night. Police do think the killer knew the house and had been in there before.

[docyabut2]

27 minutes ago, susieice said:

Every report has made it clear that Ethan didn't live there. Just the five girls did. He was just spending the night there with his girlfriend. If he was the target, the killer has to be someone who knew he would be there that night. Police do think the killer knew the house and had been in there before.

just following him there "(

[+susieice]

2 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

just following him there "(

That's possible but just because he's a male that doesn't necessarily make him a target.

[docyabut2]

18 minutes ago, susieice said:

That's possible but just because he's a male that doesn't necessarily make him a target.

Investigators believe all four victims had returned to the home by 2 a.m. the night of the stabbings.

they all were killed around three and four o clock in the morning . 

The  killer could be  following him there and was watching them through the back windows 

 

 

[Raptor Witness]

1 hour ago, susieice said:

Kaylee Goncalves' father has talked about the investigation. This was posted 9 hours ago.

 

Injecting politics into the conversation like he did, is not helpful at this point. I understand he's grieving, but why sow division when you need everyone's help?

It seems like everyone who is allowed or invited on Fox News, must tow the Republican Party line. It's crazy.

Edited November 28, 2022 by Raptor Witness

[+susieice]

4 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

Injecting politics into the conversation like he did, is not helpful at this point. I understand he's grieving, but why sow division when you need everyone's help?

It seems like everyone who is allowed or invited on Fox News, must tow the Republican Party line. It's crazy.

I believe he clearly said this isn't political.

[Raptor Witness]

2 hours ago, susieice said:

I believe he clearly said this isn't political.

Then why did he inject the political dog whistle, “defunding the police?”

On a more telling note, another FBI agent interviewed today  said that the police are not looking for a serial killer, or at a random killing, to explain this. That’s why they called it, “targeted,” the agent said.