Trump to announce 2024 run

[acidhead]

New tax-cut proposal by BIG-T: 

No Federal income Taxes on Overtime Pay

 

Edited September 13 by acidhead

[+Razman]

2 hours ago, acidhead said:

New tax-cut proposal by BIG-T: 

No Federal income Taxes on Overtime Pay

 

Yea Trump pretty much will pitch whatever he can to sound good.

[+Shooter McGavin]

When will he pitch UBI? I can see it coming at this point. He's in a desperate situation.

[acidhead]

2 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said:

When will he pitch UBI? I can see it coming at this point. He's in a desperate situation.

Both Trump and Kamala are equally desperate to be POTUS. At this stage of the game both sides will pitch anything to get elected. 

Trump has moved the Republican Party further left through the MAGA movement while the Democrat Party has moved further right with their Pro War movement.

It's never been so obvious as it is today that it's one big Party. The Uni-Party. 

I believe there are a lot of individuals who go into politics with good intentions but from what I've heard and seen once these individuals make it Federally the game in DC changes them. They're forced to play the game or they're primaried and hardly ever heard from again. 

Just look at what the Democrats are doing to the Green Party these days. AOC, in particular. Or, how Kamala bragging about Dick Cheney endorsing her and the Democrats on the ABC debate a few nights ago. 

I'll admit, it's impressive witnessing this in real time. 

[the13bats]

4 hours ago, Razman said:

Yea Trump pretty much will pitch whatever he can to sound good.

After getting pounded beaten down the way Harris did to him i dont think he can sound good...except to maga.

Edited September 13 by the13bats

[+Sherapy]

22 minutes ago, the13bats said:

After getting pounded beaten down the way Harris did to him i dont think he can sound good...except to maga.

Just like during his 2016 campaign and time as president, Trump made a lot of promises that he didn't fully keep. He said he would build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and have Mexico pay for it, but the wall was only partially built and Mexico didn’t pay for it. He also promised to completely repeal and replace Obamacare, but that didn’t happen, he has nada but “concepts.”
Although he talked about a major infrastructure plan and promised huge investments in roads and bridges, little progress was made. While he signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, it mainly benefited corporations instead of the middle class. Trump said he would “drain the swamp” in D.C., but many lobbyists ended up in powerful positions in his administration. He began talks to end the war in Afghanistan, but troops were still there when he left office. Trump also promised to improve veterans' care, but many veterans were still unhappy with the services available to them. He said he would create 25 million new jobs, but while jobs were added before COVID-19 hit, he didn’t reach that number. 

Edited September 13 by Sherapy

[+DieChecker]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/pope-francis-trump-harris-abortion/index.html

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Pope Francis on Friday described the choice US voters must make in the presidential election as one between the “lesser of two evils,” deeming former President Donald Trump’s anti-migrant policies and Vice President Kamala Harris’ support of abortion rights as both being “against life.”

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“One must choose the lesser of two evils. Who is the lesser of two evils? That lady or that gentleman? I don’t know,” Francis said during a press conference on the papal plane, referring to Harris and Trump. “Everyone with a conscience should think on this and do it.”

I'd agree both have their issues. Judging which will serve worse is up to each individuals opinion.

[psyche101]

5 hours ago, DieChecker said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/pope-francis-trump-harris-abortion/index.html

I'd agree both have their issues. Judging which will serve worse is up to each individuals opinion.

I did say a few weeks ago that abortion was an important issue, I'm sure you said it wasn't important at all. 

Trump's debate performance was awful. He's illustrated himself as the worst choice right there 

And he's still claiming he won. This has a future Jan six part 2 written all over it.

[acidhead]

7 hours ago, DieChecker said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/13/politics/pope-francis-trump-harris-abortion/index.html

I'd agree both have their issues. Judging which will serve worse is up to each individuals opinion.

How many new immigrants has the pope welcomed to the Vatican lately?

🤔

Edited September 14 by acidhead

[jmccr8]

52 minutes ago, acidhead said:

How many new immigrants has the pope welcomed to the Vatican lately?

🤔

HI Cid

Likely none but tourists with fat wallets come and go by the millions

[+DieChecker]

19 hours ago, psyche101 said:

I did say a few weeks ago that abortion was an important issue, I'm sure you said it wasn't important at all. 

Well, according to the majority of polls it was ranking around 8th in importance. In one poll, I believe was as high as 4th place.

So important, but not very.

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Trump's debate performance was awful. He's illustrated himself as the worst choice right there 

And he's still claiming he won. This has a future Jan six part 2 written all over it.

It was pretty bad. He didnt hammer home the things he's polling high in, and let Kamala set the tone.

Apparently, the polls tsken after, said 40% think he won, so that HE thinks he won isnt a tremendous step out of line.

[psyche101]

3 hours ago, DieChecker said:

Well, according to the majority of polls it was ranking around 8th in importance. In one poll, I believe was as high as 4th place.

So important, but not very.

Because it's a hot topic issue it's more prevalent than polls suggest, clearly it's a trigger point that can be used to fire up people. 

3 hours ago, DieChecker said:

It was pretty bad. He didnt hammer home the things he's polling high in, and let Kamala set the tone.

Apparently, the polls tsken after, said 40% think he won, so that HE thinks he won isnt a tremendous step out of line.

That's a lot higher than I'm reading. Best was 37%, close to forty but most polls suggest a wider gap than that. 

Some people are trying to defend the pet eating comment. Again, this has Jan six part two all over it. 

[+DieChecker]

2 hours ago, psyche101 said:

Because it's a hot topic issue it's more prevalent than polls suggest, clearly it's a trigger point that can be used to fire up people. 

Sure. Among liberals. Theyre like 75% of Harris's voter base. And like 35% to 40% of total voters. Ask any Republican, even woman, and they don't care. Or, at least it is way down the list of items they care about.

Independent voters are what win elections and theyre hot, then cold, on the subject.

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That's a lot higher than I'm reading. Best was 37%, close to forty but most polls suggest a wider gap than that. 

I probably should have said, "roughly", but 40%, rather then 37%, or 35%, is close enough given a number given from memory.

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Some people are trying to defend the pet eating comment.

Well, all I'll say is there have been issues with the Haitians in Ohio. But I'd also say there's a ton of Haitians and only a handful of examples.

It simply fits into his big selling point of foreigners are bad, and Democrats brought them to the US.

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Again, this has Jan six part two all over it.

I didn't hear anymore of his "If it's a fair election...", or, "blood will run...", so that may be so, but his rhetoric at the debate isnt pointing at that, AFAIK. But, I've not listened to the whole 2 hours.

Edited September 15 by DieChecker

[psyche101]

21 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Sure. Among liberals. Theyre like 75% of Harris's voter base. And like 35% to 40% of total voters. Ask any Republican, even woman, and they don't care. Or, at least it is way down the list of items they care about.

Independent voters are what win elections and theyre hot, then cold, on the subject.

Hot topic subjects dominate news and swing swing voters though. For people sitting on the fence an issue like abortion I feel would likely affect that vote. 

21 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

I probably should have said, "roughly", but 40%, rather then 37%, or 35%, is close enough given a number given from memory.

That's fox. All other polls are considerably lower. 40% is rounding up the highest poll. Averages amongst the polls I would suggest are likely to be closer to 30%. And that's extraordinarily generous IMHO. He failed.

21 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Well, all I'll say is there have been issues with the Haitians in Ohio. But I'd also say there's a ton of Haitians and only a handful of examples.

But there's no examples. 

Alleged evidence has been soundly debunked. We are left with hearsay that has been traced back to a single person who has apologised for what she started. 

21 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

It simply fits into his big selling point of foreigners are bad, and Democrats brought them to the US.

Surely only the minority voters are that gullible. If abortion is considered low importance of like to think a laughable ct is of negligible importance. 

It has given many a good laugh and will for some time though. I suspected Trump's mouth to ruin his performance but he exceeded all expectations.

21 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

I didn't hear anymore of his "If it's a fair election...", or, "blood will run...", so that may be so, but his rhetoric at the debate isnt pointing at that, AFAIK. But, I've not listened to the whole 2 hours.

Not him. Maga. But speaking of him, how about, him claiming he won the debate? His devoted followers will believe that even thought it's clearly not the case. That's a Jan six tactic right there. 

There are those dumb enough to actually believe and support the pet eating nonsense. The sort of brain dead person that believes an election was stolen. And your constitution arms these loonies. They are clearly ready to storm the capitol again but I expect they would be more heavily armed this time. 

He's just the idiot that points these geese in a direction when his plans fail. Then laughs as they do time for him. 

I've not found time for the whole two hours myself. It was played on tv here late at night and I had work the next day. 

Edited September 15 by psyche101

[the13bats]

On 9/13/2024 at 11:05 PM, psyche101 said:

I did say a few weeks ago that abortion was an important issue, I'm sure you said it wasn't important at all. 

Trump's debate performance was awful. He's illustrated himself as the worst choice right there 

And he's still claiming he won. This has a future Jan six part 2 written all over it.

I fully agree and everyone knows trump is a man child cry baby sore loser who most certainly will bellow and bray fraud duex when he loses yet again and while maga will yell at the sky and pound sand parroting convicted felon mans bullying threats just like 2020 it won't matter, this time he will get laughed at harder,

Someone needs to take grandpas keys, give him some warm milk with a touch of brandy and help him to bed.

 

[psyche101]

29 minutes ago, the13bats said:

I fully agree and everyone knows trump is a man child cry baby sore loser who most certainly will bellow and bray fraud duex when he loses yet again and while maga will yell at the sky and pound sand parroting convicted felon mans bullying threats just like 2020 it won't matter, this time he will get laughed at harder,

Someone needs to take grandpas keys, give him some warm milk with a touch of brandy and help him to bed.

 

 

And now he's had a big baby cry over Taylor Swift endorsing Kamala.

He's a joke. 

Thank goodness it's the last time you will have to put up with that clown for election. Hopefully he loses badly and finally crawls back under his rock.

[the13bats]

29 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

 

And now he's had a big baby cry over Taylor Swift endorsing Kamala.

He's a joke. 

Thank goodness it's the last time you will have to put up with that clown for election. Hopefully he loses badly and finally crawls back under his rock.

The swift endorsements was epic big win for harris,

Take a gander at swifts stats,

swift stats upset felon and maga

I believe trump still has kid rock and nugent on his side.

I predicted harris would slap down trump in the debate if he showed up, which she did, i was surprised he showed as hes a coward bully so i said "if" he showed. I bet he wished he had stayed home and watched shark week.

Convicted felon will lose he will tantrum maga will tantum he will yell at the sky about fraud cry baby sore losers do that, maga will agree.

Some very loony maga minions might go on unhinged acts of insanity and will quickly end up hog tied and being hauled off to the hoose gow ruining their lives and families lives if it doesnt cost their life like the nut who attacked an FBI offic with a lol nail gun.

Trump will tantrum and use it to dupe maga into sending a millionaire their money now that sounds like a smart thing to do, he will rant and rave andvget laughed at except by kult of maga.

 

 

 

[Michelle]

You two sound just like Trump.

[psyche101]

8 minutes ago, Michelle said:

You two sound just like Trump.

Nah 

Like most people.

Most people don't like Trump.

You know the entire world is laughing at his pet eating idiocy right now don't you. Maga looks dumber than anyone right now. 

[Michelle]

Just now, psyche101 said:

Nah 

Like most people.

Most people don't like Trump.

You know the entire world is laughing at his pet eating idiocy right now don't you. Maga looks dumber than anyone right now. 

Funny, I hear Trump's voice ever time I read one of your posts. Idiocy, dumb, comrade, and every other vile word you speak sounds just like him.

[+Razman]

20 hours ago, psyche101 said:

Not him. Maga. But speaking of him, how about, him claiming he won the debate? His devoted followers will believe that even thought it's clearly not the case. That's a Jan six tactic right there. 

If i'm not mistaken he has already said that if he loses the election, the Dems cheated.  This is a tactic of a con man in my opinion , ,Also he has already been threatening the election officials with prosecution even if he wins. If the news is true.

Edited September 16 by Razman

[psyche101]

12 minutes ago, Michelle said:

Funny, I hear Trump's voice ever time I read one of your posts. Idiocy, dumb, comrade, and every other vile word you speak sounds just like him.

Might be the orange coloured glasses. 

It wouldn't be the first time you have had difficulties comprehending other posters. 

Can you post where I wrote comrade? I can't recall that immediately. 

[+Razman]

3 minutes ago, Razman said:

If i'm not mistaken he has already said that if he loses the election, the Dems cheated.  This is a tactic of a con man in my opinion , ,Also he has already been threatening the election officials with prosecution even if he wins. If the news is true.

This is setting a stage for trouble even before it takes place.Almost as if he wants to see trouble go down if he loses.

Edited September 16 by Razman

[psyche101]

1 minute ago, Razman said:

If i'm not mistaken he has already said that if he loses , the Dems cheated. Also he has already been threatening the election officials with prosecution even if he wins. If the news is true.

Jan six part two is something that I honestly think should be on the top of everyone's minds 

I'm surprised the Harris campaign hasn't illustrated that very real threat to the people. Seems some need a reminder. 

[Michelle]

1 minute ago, psyche101 said:

It wouldn't be the first time you have had difficulties comprehending other posters. 

Can you post where I wrote comrade? I can't recall that immediately.

Yeah, It's me that can't follow a conversation. 

Comrade is Trump's word. It fits right in with yours.