Trump to announce 2024 run

[Tatetopa]

9 hours ago, Michelle said:

Unexplained Mysteries needs to change it's name to "All Trump, All the Time" or simply "The Trump Forums". Some people need to get life, which I have been doing much more of late. I don't personally know any Democrats who are this obsessed and they are a lot more fun to be around. It's immensely cut down the active membership here I know for a fact. It may as well be, what is it, 4Chan but for Lefties if it's anything like I've heard 4Chan is.

You know there are still active threads on other topics around the site like history, archeology, and the paranormal for example.   This is the political section.  The other segments offer some thoughtful discussions and an opportunity to learn something too. I even see Bats in the paranormal, bigfoot and UFO threads.  He is not as one dimensional as you  think.

[Portre]

11 hours ago, and-then said:

Nah, but the pack here have definitely been hoping he'd run so they can get back to venting their hate and get that dopamine bump

Get back to venting?  I never stopped, but I call it aerobic venting. Love that dopamine bump 

[WVK]

15 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Problem is you can't time travel into the past.  Between Obama and Covid is gone forever.

What would really help is a sensible Republican plan as an alternative.  That would include some monetary policy beyond arm waving or "Ain't it awful" complaints.  We know its bad, we don't need politicians to tell us that.

In economic turmoil that resume will resonate when combined with a plausible fix it plan

[Kenemet]

6 hours ago, Occupational Hubris said:

LOL.

There are reports of people trying to exit the room during doofus's "boring... low-energy" speech and security was trying to prevent them from going. 

I saw one news report (haven't verified) that Fox cut the broadcast after an hour or so when he was still going on about Merkel.

[+and-then]

11 hours ago, the13bats said:

I also hope desanctimonious runs because trump and his bent knees deserve it, the American people also deserve it, odd how that worked both ways.

Let him run.  If he wins the nomination as a Republican, Trump simply needs to run as an independent.  My logic holds perfectly true.  A DeSantis run guarantees the Left stay in power but it also guarantees that all of the misery people endure will be on the Left's dime.  I'm okay with that  

[+and-then]

3 hours ago, WVK said:

Some economists predict a hard landing recession is coming.  How would this effect the political alchemy?

Honestly?  I'm not so sure it will matter.  As I said, between the rhetoric and the ignorance, what would it take to get Dems to vote against them?  I say let it burn down.  Let THEM burn with it.  No need for violent insurrection to destroy the Left, they're keeping leaders who will do it for them. 

[+Desertrat56]

This is a snippit from this morning's story in our local paper:

"Far from the undisputed leader of the party, Trump is now facing criticism from some of his own allies, who say it’s time for Republicans to look to the future, with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis emerging as an early favorite White House contender."

He will probably not even get on the republican ticket for the primaries.   Let's see if he does try to start a new party or go begging to the libertarians.   

[+Desertrat56]

11 minutes ago, and-then said:

Let him run.  If he wins the nomination as a Republican, Trump simply needs to run as an independent.  My logic holds perfectly true.  A DeSantis run guarantees the Left stay in power but it also guarantees that all of the misery people endure will be on the Left's dime.  I'm okay with that  

In order to run as an independent in the general election he has to get on the ballot in all 50 states or it is just a waste of time.   Every state has rules about how to get on the ballot as an independent.   

[MGB]

8 hours ago, the13bats said:

Trumps own forum is all trump all the time, ive never been there.

I get it you guys are all upset that trump let you down trashing the forum and its members because you are angry trump is a loser isnt fair, its a great forum and here in political the hot topic is trump announced he is running 2024 of course people will discuss it and if its not your cup tea dont blame and bash the forum just dont enter a thread only to scold those having a discussion, that makes you look bad.

They are like Trump. They can dish it out but cannot take it. I saw plenty of Obama hate in here from some of these same users.

[MGB]

8 hours ago, Occupational Hubris said:

So you just want to disenfranchise as many people as possible so you can win, huh? 

Yes, it would seem do. They Republicans took the house by a narrow margin, and the Democrats retained the Senate by a mere seat so far, and "it was stolen" claims abound. Unbelievable.

[MGB]

8 hours ago, docyabut2 said:

Great Trump `s  back again!  There is a  revolutionary cold war going on in the politics and trump will be back again to save our country America  

So, a man who tries to steal an election by using fake electors and claims Mike Pence didn't have the courage to reject the constitutionally mandated and certified electoral votes in favor of his is somehow going to save America?

 

Who selects the electors?

Choosing each State's electors is a two-part process. First, the political parties in each State choose slates of potential electors sometime before the general election. Second, during the general election, the voters in each State select their State's electors by casting their ballots.

About the electors | National Archives

 

And this is where separation of power come in, or else people like Donald Trump would steal the election every chance they could.

And the amendments to the Constitution also set forth some important structural features of the separation of powers. For instance, the Twelfth Amendment establishes the process for choosing the President and Vice President, specifically delineating the functions of both houses of Congress in counting and certifying the votes for President and the role of the House of Representatives in choosing a President when no candidate has attained a majority of electoral votes.

Separation of Powers Under the Constitution | Constitution Annotated | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

[the13bats]

9 hours ago, Michelle said:

People like you haven't let up on Trump for the last two years so I figure you've got a good ten years left in ya. And you mischaracterizing everyone who disagrees with you politically as a Trump supporter doesn't make you look too good either. You started this thread in anticipation of his announcement. There is a lot more to American politics that is much more interesting than Trump. You need some new material. But, you weren't into politics until him and don't have much to fall back on.

Try to keep a grip on yourself you are slipping a person running for potus is a big deal in American politics if the subject doesn't interest you thats fine ignore it but please stop the ad hominem on people having a discussion about it, if you find other subjects more interesting visit those threads or create a thread you do find interesting. And again i am sorry trump let you down.

[Michelle]

3 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Try to keep a grip on yourself you are slipping a person running for potus is a big deal in American politics if the subject doesn't interest you thats fine ignore it but please stop the ad hominem on people having a discussion about it, if you find other subjects more interesting visit those threads or create a thread you do find interesting. And again i am sorry trump let you down.

First, I was making a general statement...not talking to you. Second, you have some nerve complaining about ad homs.

[the13bats]

3 hours ago, tonecop45 said:

Sounds like you are endorsing him and want him to win so badly. I was going to sy thanks for the recommendation, and I will vote for him. 

You either are a really bad troll or you cant comprehend what you read.

If you want to waste a vote on him thats your prerogative.

Edited November 16, 2022 by the13bats

[the13bats]

58 minutes ago, and-then said:

Let him run.  If he wins the nomination as a Republican, Trump simply needs to run as an independent.  My logic holds perfectly true.  A DeSantis run guarantees the Left stay in power but it also guarantees that all of the misery people endure will be on the Left's dime.  I'm okay with that  

Um, if desanctimonious runs GOP trump runs lol indy ( on your dime ahem dollars ) and a bag of rocks runs dem, trump will still be 3rd place.

[the13bats]

54 minutes ago, and-then said:

Honestly?  I'm not so sure it will matter.  As I said, between the rhetoric and the ignorance, what would it take to get Dems to vote against them?  I say let it burn down.  Let THEM burn with it.  No need for violent insurrection to destroy the Left, they're keeping leaders who will do it for them. 

“Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.”

Let go of your hate.

[the13bats]

17 minutes ago, Michelle said:

First, I was making a general statement...not talking to you. Second, you have some nerve complaining about ad homs.

You quoted me in your reply not general.

9 hours ago, Michelle said:

People like you haven't let up on Trump for the last two years so I figure you've got a good ten years left in ya. And you mischaracterizing everyone who disagrees with you politically as a Trump supporter doesn't make you look too good either. You started this thread in anticipation of his announcement. There is a lot more to American politics that is much more interesting than Trump. You need some new material. But, you weren't into politics until him and don't have much to fall back on.

Um, no you most definitely quoted/ directed your remarks at me, go back and look you have come into this thread only to make personal attacks on members. Ive offered you condolences that trump let you down and would have thought you would be delighted hes running again.

 

 

[Michelle]

4 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Um, no you most definitely quoted/ directed your remarks at me, go back and look you have come into this thread only to make personal attacks on members.

Um, no...you made a comment about my first general statement so I responded to you. If you could keep your mouth shut we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Now it's over and you can have the last word because you can't help yourself.

[Golden Duck]

1 hour ago, Kenemet said:

I saw one news report (haven't verified) that Fox cut the broadcast after an hour or so when he was still going on about Merkel.

Not just Fox, Hannity cut away from a "perfect" - and fabbelyous - speech.

It doesn't look so much as he is on the nose with Murdoch - but Hannity feels like he has to be more active in his as handler and safety -net.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/even-fox-news-sean-hannity-cut-away-from-donald-trumps-2024-announcement-speech

[the13bats]

6 minutes ago, Michelle said:

Um, no...you made a comment about my first general statement so I responded to you. If you could keep your mouth shut we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Now it's over and you can have the last word because you can't help yourself.

I dont need your permission when i can post.

Yes, you came in bashing the forum and members having a friendly discussion you added nothing to the threads subject all you have done is complained.

I hope its out of your system now.

[pallidin]

I don't know about anyone else, but for many years I have perceived Trump to be an "in-your-face" liar with a "smug face" Not to mention his signature "act like a 10-year-old bully tactics" of insulting others; using stupid, childish attack names and completely twisted narratives.

An extreme narcissist who demands "complete loyalty" and unconditional LOVE to the very shadow he casts.

It's so sickening.

 

[Tonedog45]

1 hour ago, the13bats said:

You either are a really bad troll or you cant comprehend what you read.

If you want to waste a vote on him thats your prerogative.

I am just trying to participate in a discussion but in another thread you are accusing me of taking things personally when in fact you are the one based on what you wrote here. 

[the13bats]

26 minutes ago, tonecop45 said:

I am just trying to participate in a discussion but in another thread you are accusing me of taking things personally when in fact you are the one based on what you wrote here. 

You are taking it personal here too, relax its just a forum.

[Tatetopa]

1 hour ago, the13bats said:

“Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.”

Let go of your hate.

I am dominated by logic, but I do have the remnants of faith drummed into me by my upbringing.  I believe Trump, a lying, narcissistic thief is a servant of Satan the Prince of Lies. Those who were once Christians and follow him against all Christ's teachings will wake up to hear his laughter at the gates of Hell.  And they will find it too late to turn back or cry for help.  That doesn't make me happy or feel like gloating.

[the13bats]

6 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

I am dominated by logic, but I do have the remnants of faith drummed into me by my upbringing.  I believe Trump, a lying, narcissistic thief is a servant of Satan the Prince of Lies. Those who were once Christians and follow him against all Christ's teachings will wake up to hear his laughter at the gates of Hell.  And they will find it too late to turn back or cry for help.  That doesn't make me happy or feel like gloating.

Well, you sure did nail trump perfectly.