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59 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

He's not running for president, or anything else for that matter. Yours, and others fixations on him are really weird. Hillary I could understand as she was a politician trying for office, but this guy? Republicans have officially gone collectively  insane. 

After seeing the pictures of both Trump with Ivanka and this picture of Hunter, I can honestly say that I would not ever vote for either of them.  The big difference is, I think Democrats are wise enough to never run Hunter Biden on a ticket.

 

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10 hours ago, Liquid Gardens said:

And you are basing this latest one on what exactly, show me your stats.  Do you have a bank of televisions in your home where you're monitoring the time spent on stories on multiple channels and recording the data?  How about internet stories, what's your methodology for this evaluation? Or are you maybe just believing what the right wing media says who argue the same stuff you do above? 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

The media has not done a running tally of Biden's lies the way they did for Trump.  And this isn't the only mainstream left wing article about this issue!

At least 4 times Biden has  lied about cannons and the second amendment. At least half a dozen times he's tried to take credit for seniors getting huge social security increases when the reality is it's a result of rampant inflation.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-increase-social-security/

At least an equal number of times he's tried to claim he's created millions of jobs after Trump left office,  when it was only recovered jobs returning after the pandemic. 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/oct/13/joe-biden/un-spinning-white-house-chart-bidens-job-gains/

Or the thousands of other lies told by Biden (do you really think he's been Mr Truthful the whole time, including continued repetition of the Unite the Right lies that Trump called Nazi's "very fine people"). But no one is making front page news reports about this tally of lies! The mainstream left wing media does not care about democrat lies,  certainly not in the way they care about and dissect Republican falsehoods.

 

10 hours ago, Liquid Gardens said:

Why do you never or under-proportionally complain about the right wing that does the same thing but in reverse?  That kinda belies your earlier claim that you're not really 'conservative'; fine, you're a Trumper then.

Two reasons:

1- the right wing media doesn't have the same reach that the left wing media does. Fox is the largest,  but outside of that,  how many right wing channels report national news to the same extent that CNN/MSNBC/CBS/ABC/CNBC/NBC/ETC reports? 

2- average viewers/readers demonstrate a significantly higher level of distrust for right wing sources than they do the left.  I therefore speak out against them now benefice the right wing media is already being kept accountable!

 

10 hours ago, Liquid Gardens said:

What you are correct about is that this is a matter of degree, one that you rarely factor in.  If you were correct about the above, which we have no reason to believe, then perhaps the difference in time spent is a matter of degree in that Trump likely has told many more lies than Biden.  I don't have a list of Biden lies, but there are lists of all of Trump's; I wouldn't be surprised if Trump's lies were 10 times more numerous than Biden's.

If there was an article with a running tally of lies like there is for Trump,  wouldn't it be interesting to compare! But the mainstream left wing media refuses to do that!

 

10 hours ago, Liquid Gardens said:

No one has said otherwise, the issue is that this is not an analogy to what Trump said.  As I said, the above is called democracy, when someone says we should abolish gun rights I've never interpreted any of them as suggesting we somehow go outside the rules and the Amendment/legislative process to do that.  Now, if you are so well-versed in American government, tell me in general how we go about 'terminating all' rules?  Is Trump suggesting we put all the Amendments to the states and have them vote on them to abolish them?  If not, what do you think he is suggesting?  Probably nothing since you seem to erroneously/conveniently think social media posts are worthless, but explain the feasible proposal for what he wants that does not appear to be dictatorial.  

Social media posts are not policy drafts, therefore I see it as Trump talking crap, random boasts  and zero to worry about. 

 

10 hours ago, Liquid Gardens said:

What you are also doing is defining 'left wing' by what you see as the most extreme and worst members of that group, which is absurd, and to which you seem to complain when it's done to you.  Why don't you follow 'my' rules since I'm who you're talking to instead of random 'left wing members of UM'?  Should I respond to you according to a select group of right wing members here's rules?  I think this left wing/right wing came up because of my mention of double-standards, but I don't think I accused the 'right-wing' of double standards in those comments, I accused you of them.

If anything, my definition of "left wing" is overly broad.  I consider you left wing, for example, though I would NEVER describe you as far left.

 

10 hours ago, Liquid Gardens said:

We're not talking about random statements, we are talking about specific statements. I'll ask pointlessly again, what parts of the statement are inconsistent with 'appearing' to want to be a dictator.

A dictator wouldn't say the quiet part out loud! Not until they were certain of succeeding at becoming dictator,  at any rate! Thus your question is moot, and answering it will serve no purpose.

 

10 hours ago, Liquid Gardens said:

Of course you are.  I'm ultimately kinda playing along here as I have to doubt whether you are translating things reasonably anyway, that things are overblown and want to make him appear as a dictator.  I'm sure someone used the word 'dictator' though so that automatically defines the 'left wing' to you or something.  

But again you are unavoidably biased on these claims in other ways besides your extreme political persuasion.  Why would an Australian be 'outraged' about what Trump does or doesn't, or any of our politicians, it doesn't affect you in any way.  Of course you're inclined to disregard it, you have no skin in the game.  

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist... then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me".

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists

I speak out about issues of freedom so that everyone can have freedom! Americans, Australians,  all the same to me. The left is doing its best to erode freedom of speech, I therefore speak up against it!

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16 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

Sure ask a lawyer because they will ALL give the same answer.:rolleyes:

How about a Professor of Law?  Given the history of the 2nd Amendment and the right to bear arms, citizens should be armed the the same extent the Government is.

https://scholar.valpo.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1956&context=vulr

Go ahead and misrepresent my comment.  That lawyers might give different responses is completely irrelevant to the point I was making, which was that Constitutional scholars are better to address this question to than random Australians on the internet!

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17 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

than random Australians on the internet!

Amen.  Yet, you can't seem to help yourself because of your weird man right wing man crushes.  "Tucker Carlson, you're my hero."

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Just now, Agent0range said:

Amen.  Yet, you can't seem to help yourself because of your weird man right wing man crushes.  "Tucker Carlson, you're my hero."

I don't watch Tucker Carlson,  your stereotypes made me laugh,  though,  so thank you :lol:

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3 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said:

I don't watch Tucker Carlson,  your stereotypes made me laugh,  though,  so thank you :lol:

Do you know the definition of stereotype?  I think not.  You've made it 100% clear the media you trust.

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35 minutes ago, Agent0range said:

Do you know the definition of stereotype?  I think not.  You've made it 100% clear the media you trust.

I don't watch Fox News, so make of that what you will, Mr Orange! 

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3 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

He's not running for president, or anything else for that matter. Yours, and others fixations on him are really weird. Hillary I could understand as she was a politician trying for office, but this guy? Republicans have officially gone collectively  insane. 

Previous post explains.

Not about this pic particularly deals with Joe being a liar, but it does speak to what kind of scumbag Hunter is, and he'd not think twice before taking illegal foreign money. And that possibly involved Joe. Which, IMHO, isn't so terrible. It's that if all is true, Joe open face lied to the American people, because he was afraid to lose with speaking the truth. 

On 12/8/2022 at 3:06 PM, DieChecker said:

That's not the actual issue, though is it? This is about lying. Did Joe Biden lie when he said he had no financial gain from Hunter Bidens overseas activities. And that he had no idea of any of his activities either.

Bill Clinton didn't get impeached for a BJ. He got impeached for lying about it.

Trump got slapped around good by Congress, and now Joe's going to get probed by Congress too.

 

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14 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

The media has not done a running tally of Biden's lies the way they did for Trump.  And this isn't the only mainstream left wing article about this issue!

I'm surprised about that, if there are so many Biden lies why hasn't the right wing media created those lists like we have for Trump?  Wouldn't that be a nice right wing headline:  Biden has told more lies than Trump at this point in his presidency?  You don't counter the accusation that Trump has lied more than Biden by noting that Biden has lied sometimes, you continually either ignore degrees or are unaware.  Trump was lying about his inauguration crowds within 24 hours of becoming president, and tweeted multiple times a day for four years so even if Biden and Trump are lying at the same rate, which I see no evidence of, of course the number of lies Trump told are greater, the guys pie-hole seemingly never closed.  You're worked up about a mention of freaking cannons, a line Biden said that immediately followed his actual point which was true, namely that the 2nd Amendment does not mean you get to own any 'arms' you want, which is why nuclear weapons were mentioned earlier which you waved away.  On the other hand Trump falsely accused Obama of treason, as well as The Big Lie and zillions of others; does the content and impact and degree divorced from reality of the lie matter to you? 

14 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

1- the right wing media doesn't have the same reach that the left wing media does. Fox is the largest,  but outside of that,  how many right wing channels report national news to the same extent that CNN/MSNBC/CBS/ABC/CNBC/NBC/ETC reports? 

Then I don't know why you are bringing this up, you've just explained the discrepancy and are just glossing over lots of important details.  I don't know why you are concerned about 'how many' channels, who cares which left or right wing media is being watched, it seems like we'd just be concerned about number of viewers, whether a viewer gets their left-wing biased story from CNN versus MSNBC seems moot. 

To be fair I understand you are just sharing your mere opinion here which is fine, and since you like to draw conclusions from your own anecdotal experience I'll share some of mine too.  Your 'basis' for this I believe is that you think more people watch 'left wing media' than right-wing but that's not really the relevant question, which is actually how many people are watching left-wing content vs right-wing content.  In my experience, CBS and ABC at least have very little bias in their half hour nightly news cast, 'the national news' as you put it.  Separate from that is political reporting and opinion.  So if as you admit, and I agree with due to as you noted Fox's domination of right-wing reporting, more left wing channels carry non-biased, non-political, 'just the facts' national news then it makes sense that they'd be more watched than the right-wing overall as there are a lot of people who just want the facts-national news, not the political junk.  I think Fox has a regular news-cast at some point in the day and I've watched that myself, they're just as good at reporting on crimes and national disasters and celebrity junk and to some extent high-level political goings-on as any other news.  As you say you consider me left wing but if someone asked me if I watched Fox at all I'd have to say yes and thus I get glommed in with people who watch the 'right wing media' which distorts the point of your viewership stats because I'm not watching for the right-wing content.  We could also have right-wing people who don't like Fox and political news but tune into ABC Nightly News for a half hour and you would count that as 'left wing' reach even though this reach doesn't necessarily include left wing content.  (Yes, I know about the whole 'their bias also comes out in the stories they choose to cover', but that is an even deeper level of complexity and more difficult to measure, especially for people who have no journalism education, are clueless about the complexity of running a news business, and are Australian.)

14 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

2- average viewers/readers demonstrate a significantly higher level of distrust for right wing sources than they do the left.  I therefore speak out against them now benefice the right wing media is already being kept accountable!

As I said earlier, one of the flaws in your arguments for this stuff is your ignoring of degrees.  You seem to have this idea that right wing media and the left wing media are equally accurate, I don't see any real evidence of that, that's a complicated question and evaluation.  We certainly don't demonstrate it the way you usually do, which is to select out specific examples of the left wing being inaccurate; that just refutes the idea that the left wing media is totally trustworthy which no one claimed.   People demonstrate a higher level of distrust for homeopathy as a treatment for heart disease than cardiology, that's logical and the same reasons may apply to why more people distrust right wing media more than left wing.  It seems to be your thesis that people shouldn't distrust right wing media more, but I at least haven't seen any reasonable basis for that, seems faith-based on your part, maybe the right-wing pumps out more bs than the left and the distrust is entirely logical and proportional.  Which we'd expect, to your above point, if more of the right-wing is not covering national news.

14 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

If there was an article with a running tally of lies like there is for Trump,  wouldn't it be interesting to compare! But the mainstream left wing media refuses to do that!

Why are you putting the onus on the left wing and not the right wing for this?  Maybe it does exist, but do you have a link to a right wing source that also had a list of Trump's lies?  Why, again, the double-standard?  The point with showing the list of Trump's lies is that there are so many of them, believe it or not us Americans have clued in that our Presidents lie sometimes so a list of those lies usually isn't always that newsworthy.  If you feel that Trump has been treated unfairly though than this seemingly would be straightforward to refute, simply show how the number of Trump's lies is actually in line with the number of other Presidents.  Good luck with that.  Quantity and (lack of) quality matter but you seem to ignore this, we rightfully view and treat Ted Bundy differently than Laura Bush even though they've both killed people.

14 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

A dictator wouldn't say the quiet part out loud! Not until they were certain of succeeding at becoming dictator,  at any rate! Thus your question is moot, and answering it will serve no purpose.

He's not a dictator, the question was whether his statement made him appear to want to be one!  A wanna-be dictator who is actually abysmally dumb would say the quiet part out loud!  Ha, that's about the best summation of Trump's political exposition: saying the quiet part out loud. 

You don't have to answer the question as the answer is obvious, and explains why his statement is not inconsistent with giving the appearance of wanting to be a dictator.  It's only moot if you want to pretend you, and Trump, didn't use the words that you both actually chose.

14 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

The left is doing its best to erode freedom of speech, I therefore speak up against it!

Your passion for your specific political views doesn't have anything to do with nor can it make up for the fact that you are not going to be personally affected by our politicians, unlike us, thus you cannot be in a position to really know whether it is 'blown out of proportion'.  Again there are many topics that it makes no difference where you are, I'm pretty sure I saw a long in-depth post of yours about the movements and actions of Rittenhouse which I agree could be put together by anyone with Internet access.  Do you agree though with the potential issues of being an Australian commenting on American politics and culture, you understand the necessary limitations you are going to have?  Yes you are free to have any opinion you want based on something or nothing at all, but do you think there are positions about the US that do require you to live here to have a valid opinion?

To your point, do you care about DeSantis punishing Disney for their free speech or does your questionably 'out of proportion' linkage to the holocaust poem not extend that far?  I'm sure that can't compare to the affront to free speech that being banned from the Intersectional Feminists site is of course...

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21 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

The media has not done a running tally of Biden's lies the way they did for Trump.  And this isn't the only mainstream left wing article about this issue!

Veracity of statements by Donald Trump

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com › t...
Trump's false or misleading claims total 30573 over 4 years

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

 

The false and
misleading claims
President Biden
made during
his first 100
days in office

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2021/biden-fact-checker-100-days/

 

Fact check: A look at Biden’s first year in false claims

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/20/politics/fact-check-biden-false-claims-first-year-2021/index.html

Here you go Paranoid. Read the whole articles before you reply.

 

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On 12/11/2022 at 10:45 AM, Hankenhunter said:

Here you go Paranoid. Read the whole articles before you reply.

Thank you, I finished reading it. I don't think I believe them that they got "every lie"! For example - Trump's "lies" in that article you linked include such innocuousness details as having 19 occasions where he said that he got 75 million votes in the 2020 election when he really only got 74,223,975 - that's literally the level of "lies" that are being fact checked, and if the media were as careful as this about Biden then Biden's lies would double.

But for the sake of argument let's pretend that the article outlined every single one of Joe Biden's lies. He's still a liar, and he should not be trusted. Both are prolific liars, and that is the point that I'm trying to make!  

The raw numbers are not going to tell the full story, either, as Trump and Biden approached the media very differently during their time in office. If you recall, there was all sorts of questions over Biden's media commitments, specifically how little he talked to the media through his early days in office:

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The 46th president sat for just 28 interviews during his first year in office. By contrast, Donald Trump gave 95 interviews, Barack Obama did 162 and George W. Bush granted 50 interviews during their first year as president, according to records kept by White House Transition Project Director Martha Kumar.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/20/gop-rips-biden-for-going-100-days-without-press-interview/

If Trump engaged in 4 times as many interviews as Biden, and if they are both liars as the accusations appear to be, then spending 4 times as much time in front of the camera is going to lead to 4 times as many lies. And that camera time only increased by Trump throughout his presidency, particularly in 2020 with the pandemic Trump was hosting media sessions every single day for hours every day, if I remember correctly, which gave the media plenty of opportunities to listen to unfiltered ideas and views. 

That's very different to Biden's prepared speeches and detailed media notes:

Yes Joe, YOU: Internet trolls Biden after bizarrely specific cheat sheet  revealed | MEAWW 

 

But that's neither here nor there. This context doesn't change the broader point that Joe Biden is a lying liar who lies! If the best that you can say about this is "he does it less than Trump" then that's not much of an endorsement for the current POTUS. Especially if he wants to run again in 2024, he really should step down but the democrats don't really have anyone waiting in the wings to step up and take over. And until then they have two more years to destroy the economy, and when 2024 runs around, if DeSantis is the Republican nominee then Joe Biden should rightfully be worried! 

 

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Biden and his son Hunter have a creepy obsession with underage individuals. The videos and photos don't lie. 

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1 hour ago, Paranoid Android said:

Thank you, I finished reading it. I don't think I believe them that they got "every lie"! For example - Trump's "lies" in that article you linked include such innocuousness details as having 19 occasions where he said that he got 75 million votes in the 2020 election when he really only got 74,223,975 - that's literally the level of "lies" that are being fact checked, and if the media were as careful as this about Biden then Biden's lies would double.

But for the sake of argument let's pretend that the article outlined every single one of Joe Biden's lies. He's still a liar, and he should not be trusted. Both are prolific liars, and that is the point that I'm trying to make!  

The raw numbers are not going to tell the full story, either, as Trump and Biden approached the media very differently during their time in office. If you recall, there was all sorts of questions over Biden's media commitments, specifically how little he talked to the media through his early days in office:

If Trump engaged in 4 times as many interviews as Biden, and if they are both liars as the accusations appear to be, then spending 4 times as much time in front of the camera is going to lead to 4 times as many lies. And that camera time only increased by Trump throughout his presidency, particularly in 2020 with the pandemic Trump was hosting media sessions every single day for hours every day, if I remember correctly, which gave the media plenty of opportunities to listen to unfiltered ideas and views. 

That's very different to Biden's prepared speeches and detailed media notes:

Yes Joe, YOU: Internet trolls Biden after bizarrely specific cheat sheet  revealed | MEAWW 

 

But that's neither here nor there. This context doesn't change the broader point that Joe Biden is a lying liar who lies! If the best that you can say about this is "he does it less than Trump" then that's not much of an endorsement for the current POTUS. Especially if he wants to run again in 2024, he really should step down but the democrats don't really have anyone waiting in the wings to step up and take over. And until then they have two more years to destroy the economy, and when 2024 runs around, if DeSantis is the Republican nominee then Joe Biden should rightfully be worried! 

 

Bidens lies have been far more egregious than Trumps which if the left were honest are mere exaggerations of grandeur.  Biden straight up lied on stage about his son dying in Iraq.  How do you even say something like that when the son died of brain cancer?  You can't even say that was an honest mistake.

Biden lost his previous bid in the 80s for President for LYING and PLAGARISM.   

If it weren't for double standards, the left would have no standards.

 

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On 12/9/2022 at 8:09 PM, Hankenhunter said:

He's not running for president, or anything else for that matter. Yours, and others fixations on him are really weird. Hillary I could understand as she was a politician trying for office, but this guy? Republicans have officially gone collectively  insane. 

Psssttt... Hank, they're trying to find out who Big Guy is. :D

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36 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Psssttt... Hank, they're trying to find out who Big Guy is. :D

After all the naked selfies of him they posted- it should be pretty obvious what the "Big Guy" is.......

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6 hours ago, Edumakated said:

Bidens lies have been far more egregious than Trumps which if the left were honest are mere exaggerations of grandeur.  Biden straight up lied on stage about his son dying in Iraq.  How do you even say something like that when the son died of brain cancer?  You can't even say that was an honest mistake.

Biden lost his previous bid in the 80s for President for LYING and PLAGARISM.   

If it weren't for double standards, the left would have no standards.

 

But, when he said he got rid of Shokin that's when he was telling the truth and not big notin' himself.

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18 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

But, when he said he got rid of Shokin that's when he was telling the truth and not big notin' himself.

We could chalk it up as nothing if Hunter wasn't also being investigated at the time.  Are you trying to insinuate that liars don't sometimes tell the truth?  Biden dry snitched on himself.... it is what it is...

Trump has an ego and loves to boast and exaggerate.  No argument there.  It would just be nice if Biden and Democrats were held to the same standards but we all know that will never happen.

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26 minutes ago, Edumakated said:

We could chalk it up as nothing if Hunter wasn't also being investigated at the time.  Are you trying to insinuate that liars don't sometimes tell the truth?  Biden dry snitched on himself.... it is what it is...

Trump has an ego and loves to boast and exaggerate.  No argument there.  It would just be nice if Biden and Democrats were held to the same standards but we all know that will never happen.

Yeah and EU, The World Bank, and The IMF were all in on it - to remove a corrupt Shokin that wasn't investigating anyone but those investigating Shokin's corruption.

If only CT fanbois could produce Shokin's files, but as you say, it i what it is... absolutely nothing.

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On 12/9/2022 at 8:46 AM, Paranoid Android said:

This is the exact wordplay that I've been talking about! You can use the word "regulation" if you like, it's still abolishing the second amendment! 

No it's not.

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/second-amendment/the-supreme-court-the-second-amendment/

Our nation’s highest court has consistently recognized that the Second Amendment is compatible with strong firearm regulations. Despite this, the gun lobby has repeatedly sought to invalidate lifesaving gun safety laws.

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3 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

No it's not.

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/second-amendment/the-supreme-court-the-second-amendment/

Our nation’s highest court has consistently recognized that the Second Amendment is compatible with strong firearm regulations. Despite this, the gun lobby has repeatedly sought to invalidate lifesaving gun safety laws.

I'm not arguing for invalidating gun safety laws. Gun safety laws is NOT the same as doing away with the second amendment altogether! 

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23 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

I'm not arguing for invalidating gun safety laws.

Gun safety laws are regulations.

23 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

Gun safety laws is NOT the same as doing away with the second amendment altogether! 

Why would that be a bad thing? 

Do you feel laws and constitutional documents should never be updated? 

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1 hour ago, psyche101 said:

Gun safety laws are regulations.

I did not claim they weren't! What I claimed was that there are left wing politicians who want to abolish gun laws! How is this a controversial statement? 

 

1 hour ago, psyche101 said:

Why would that be a bad thing? 

Do you feel laws and constitutional documents should never be updated? 

Not "never", but I would rather err on the side of caution, and any Constitutional change needs to be both legally sound and carry the support of the American people! At the moment abolishing the second amendment is neither, with the American people largely in support of gun ownership (1/3 of democrats live in a house with a gun, the number among Republicans is higher even than that). 

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-obama-ambassador-chinese-businessmen-very-good-relationship

 Hunter Biden boasted about having a "very good relationship" with President Obama's ambassador to China prior to his business associates arranging multiple meetings with him, according to a review of emails from Hunter’s infamous abandoned laptop that have been verified by Fox News Digital.

Less than two months after former Sen. Max Baucus, D-Mont., was sworn in by then-Vice President Biden as the U.S. ambassador to China in late February 2014, Hunter and his business associates at BHR Partners began arranging meetings with Baucus.

 

Archer was eventually forced to resign from his BHR positions after reports came out in May 2016 that he was under investigation by the U.S. Justice Department and the SEC for his role in defrauding a Native American tribe, for which he was later sentenced to a year and a day in federal prison.

On April 21, 2014, Hunter Biden sent an email to Archer insisting that he was really close with Baucus and "can ask anything we need" after Archer said he had an upcoming dinner with the then-ambassador’s "best friend."

Roughly three months later, Archer sent an email to Bulger, the nephew of notorious Boston mobster ****** Bulger and Hunter’s longtime business partner, saying he was in talks with Baucus’ office for another meeting with the ambassador.

 

 

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