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A Christian petition against Donald Trump's 2024 bid has amassed thousands of signatures


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17 minutes ago, MGB said:

They probably just listened to him speak to realize he wasn't Jesus incarnate.

What’s actually comical about this is that it was his running mate Pence who brought the Evangelical Christians to the table. Now it was the Evangelical's who were responsible for uniting the Christian communities Nationwide. Almost immediately from the time he took office in 2016 and by the election in 2020 approximately 50% of that support no longer existed. Now it appears that the his Christian support is really ending, because the Evangelicals Christian are the people who control the advertising support, and according to that article Trumps support is on its last leg.

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37 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

What’s actually comical about this is that it was his running mate Pence who brought the Evangelical Christians to the table. Now it was the Evangelical's who were responsible for uniting the Christian communities Nationwide. Almost immediately from the time he took office in 2016 and by the election in 2020 approximately 50% of that support no longer existed. Now it appears that the his Christian support is really ending, because the Evangelicals Christian are the people who control the advertising support, and according to that article Trumps support is on its last leg.

Its ironic in a way trumps go to is getting money sent to him by worshippers as do evangelists however trump duped and lied to the Christians and made them look riduculous and no amount of snake handling and poision drinking will soothe that burn, so they dumped trumpty.

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26 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Its ironic in a way trumps go to is getting money sent to him by worshippers as do evangelists however trump duped and lied to the Christians and made them look riduculous and no amount of snake handling and poision drinking will soothe that burn, so they dumped trumpty.

Yeap, that’s what happened all the unsavory situations he was involved with has made him soiled goods for the Christians. Will it ever change, I certainly don’t know, but we have a year to the 2024 election, I guess time will tell.

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13 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

The border was not secure, the wall was not built,

It was much more secure than it is right now, and the wall was in full construction mode. 

13 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

jobs did not come back, fair trade agreements did not happen, the deficit went up.
 

many Jobs were kept here that were leaving, fair trade agreements did happen, and more were well there on the way. The deficit honestly was my biggest Trump disappointment. He did have a pandemic to deal with though. 

13 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

 

The whole country did not admire Trump before he went into politics any more they they admired Epstein.

Whatev. Guy had one of the most popular TV shows ever, was constantly being praised for his charity, especially to minority causes. And was often seen as a reflection of what many Americans wanted to be in pop culture. Aside from a couple rough divorces, he wasn’t at all known to be anything like Epstein. 
 

He only had two years. 

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2 hours ago, the13bats said:

Its ironic in a way trumps go to is getting money sent to him by worshippers as do evangelists however trump duped and lied to the Christians and made them look riduculous and no amount of snake handling and poision drinking will soothe that burn, so they dumped trumpty.

At least he wasn’t taking hundreds of millions through a tax payer paid Ukraine slush fund, hiding it through a corrupt crypto exchange platform. Your people are rotten to the core with corruption. 
 

BTW you do know that every single politician ever accepts political donations right? You are literally singling him out for something every politician you ever supported did and does the same exact thing. 
 

And to top it off, you think this petition means he lost the whole of the Christian community?? Most people signing aren’t even Christian’s. 
 

Oh the things they believe, smh

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13 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

When you think about politics, do you think about trust and love and integrity? 
 

Almost never. I have a very small list of people I felt actually had integrity. Ron Paul comes to mind. Same with his son. Heck maybe even Bernie Sanders. Though I completely disagree with him, what you see is what you get. That’s why they stole is nomination. They couldn’t control him. 

13 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

 

When a church begins to use the power and violence of a government to enforce its beliefs instead of following the instruction manual Jesus left, it is more than Trump that suffers.   Churches suffer, people are leaving them not because they have lost their faith but because their church has sold theirs.  "Christian" leaders hungry for power and influence are the reason Christianity is shrinking.

I’m not sure what you mean about churches using government violence, but yeah at least the big churches are corrupt. As Christ predicted we’d see in these times. Said the church is like a mustered seed, that grew into a massive tree. The ravens make their nests there. 
 

Now a mustered seed doesn’t grow into a massive tree. I take that to mean the church would eventually turn into something it was never meant to be. 

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14 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

At least he wasn’t taking hundreds of millions through a tax payer paid Ukraine slush fund, hiding it through a corrupt crypto exchange platform. Your people are rotten to the core with corruption. BTW you do know that every single politician ever accepts political donations right? You are literally singling him out for something every politician you ever supported did and does the same exact thing And to top it off, you think this petition means he lost the whole of the Christian community?? Most people signing aren’t even Christian’.

That’s certainly true Donald didn’t do that. However, when he lost the Presidency and left the White House for the final time, he had $240 Million Plus that was collected from his base for the Trump Legal Defense Fund. As part of the current investigation by the New York State Attorney General the subject and base amount of this Legal Defense Fund  came up.

The Trump Organization was asked to account for those funds, well the funds could not be accounted for. So currently another indictment has been opened by New York State, will the highway robbery ever end? But the worst part of all of this is the fact that the members of Trumps base who donated that money and untold millions more certainly can’t afford it!:(:no:

 

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Oh the things they believe, smh

 

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10 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

I am sorry but Trump brought things upon himself, his comments and continuous tweets are what caused these problems. It’s a well know and proven fact that he is his own worse enemy. No American leader to date, has every gone of the rails like Trump has he is unique in that respect.

He did bring it on himself. And the media more than proved it. Cause the one thing that he did that they wanted him to do, bomb Syria, he was praised by every media outlet. Suddenly the tweets and comments meant nothing. I think it was Van Jones who said something to the effect of ‘tonight it feels like he is taking his first truly presidential action’ the second they realized it wasn’t going to turn into a blood bath of brown people it was back to the slander. 

10 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

It never ceases to amaze me that you choose to Parrot whatever your political affiliation decides to push on any given day. The reason I have said your indoctrinated is because everything you add to a conversation is directly from the script your political leaders use. You don’t present any original thoughts that are just your own even if they are onlyinconclusive and unproven. To be clear, I can go to Trumps website and read the active discussion going on today. Then return to this site to watch and listen in amazement how those exact taking points are introduced here. No speculation, no questioning of the content and no individual thoughts.

I was saying all this and more as it was happening live. Very much against the opinions of most here, and everywhere. I parrot no one. There was no political affiliation that supported my views at the time, other than a handful of libertarians. Trump has not shaped my political views in any way shape or form. And I have ample records of it right here on this sight, going back many years. Nearly 2 decades. 

10 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

For instance in the paragraph above you allude to the fact everything is a direct result of Americans democratic leadership. It’s an interesting way to side step any Republican involvement however any thinking American will see through your smoke screen. The fact that your able to even comment in the manner you do is clear proof of your indoctrination and it’s also disingenuous. I can honestly say this, I think your a proud and patriotic American, however your so indoctrinated that you unable to think for yourself because you have a full blown case of Patty Hearst syndrome. I would suggest that you question everything you read and are told this is how recovery starts and if you do this everyday you will see the light no matter how dark the room is.


 

Side stepping Republican involvement? It’s like you aren’t even reading my posts. Those are your boys, not mine. Those are the same people YOU support, not I. I’d arrest most of the republicans from those days, and hopefully hang them for treason. That’s the old guard that you want to return back to. 

10 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

 

to , like for instance that the appropriated money ear marked for the Ukraine is going into Slush fund accounts. Well ok Preacherman unlike you I do have an un-indoctrinated open mind.

You say there are slush funds prove it, post a valid source and help me understand why you said this and where your information is coming from 

Good, you should be aware of what the GOP has become, however sadly 

Dude you never say anything I can’t turn on the TV and hear msm preach daily. I have never once seen you give an original political thought. For the people who have been here as long as I have, those who hate me, those who like me, none of them can say I haven’t helped lead the charge here in original political ideas. 
 

It’s like you people think none of us ever had a political opinion before Trump. That he somehow manifested our ideology. No sir, we manifested him. Starting from the day Bush with the support of Obama bailed out the corrupt banks. 
 

What’s crazy, I don’t even see him as my ideal candidate. I’d much rather have a Ron/Rand Paul type. I just see him as way better than the globalist establishment scumbags who want us to “own nothing”. 

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20 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

That’s certainly true Donald didn’t do that. However, when he lost the Presidency and left the White House for the final time, he had $240 Million Plus that was collected from his base for the Trump Legal Defense Fund. As part of the current investigation by the New York State Attorney General the subject and base amount of this Legal Defense Fund  came up.

The Trump Organization was asked to account for those funds, well the funds could not be accounted for. So currently another indictment has been opened by New York State, will the highway robbery ever end? But the worst part of all of this is the fact that the members of Trumps base who donated that money and untold millions more certainly can’t afford it!:(:no:

 

 

Who told you that? Vox? 
 

I never gave him a dime, so I can’t speak for those who did. 

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11 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

As much as I don't like Trump, I had to pull the pic as I found out it was fake.

My apologies for the faux pas.

Hank

You really do have to be careful with what is ascribed to him, people do make stuff up, both good and bad. There's enough bad without having to resort to fantasy lol

But this is exactly what he has always been known for. Working beside his dad, they were both infamous for stiffing contractors and ****ting on people they deemed as below them. One of Trump's favorite tactics - the 'Art of the Deal' lol - was to insist on only paying for half the work and then litigating the contractor out of even more. 

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6 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

I just see him as way better than the globalist establishment scumbags who want us to “own nothing”. 

I would never say I dislike you nor that you don't have original thoughts, but this single statement could be the seed for a major discussion.

I see tax policy and attitudes spawned by society as the major contributors to the globalist establishment owning everything.

The idea that money is a measure of worth and that rich people must be deserving and poor people must be morally deficient comes out of our society, our politics, and our religion.

The idea that big corporations and the wealthy are "Job creators" is counter to economics.  Demand creates jobs.

The Congressional servitude of both parties to the elites and crafting legislation to favor them in exchange for campaign funding shapes our tax and public policy.

The antagonism toward unions and regulations designed to hold corporations accountable for damage entrenches the global elite in positions of power.

The blind eye toward multibillion dollar global investment funds buying up housing at the disadvantage of ordinary citizens is tacit approval that society must take a backseat to the desires of unrestrained capitalism.

Republicans have a huge part in that, all of their talking points focus on calling any effort to slow the flow of capital to the elites socialism or communism.

The state and state supporting religions are shaping the narrative that the elites have a God given right to rule us all.

 

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11 hours ago, preacherman76 said:

Who told you that? Vox? 
 

I never gave him a dime, so I can’t speak for those who did. 

Preacherman actually I was first made aware of this during the televised January 6 Committee investigation. The thing that disturbs me about it is the fraud that was perpetrated against the American people. You see Preacherman it’s inexcusable to steal from people who have put their trust in those people. But, the facts are the facts, Trumps base are the backbone of Americas labor force. The majority of his base are very hard working Middle Class and below Americans, these are the people who donate 90% of the funds who pay the Trump Campaign bills.

To be honest it sickens me that these people are sending money because they have been lied to yet are convinced of the importance of the issue. In reality many of these people sent money they couldn’t really afford to send. They sacrificed things they needed because they believed what they were being told, how can anyone morally and in good conscience basically steal from people like that. The video in the Tweet explains in great detail how quickly these funds were raised 7-14 January 2021.

It’s also been exposed that the so called Trump Legal Defense Fund NEVER existed even though the Trump Campaign was sending out up to 25 tweets and emails per day stating the importance of donating to the fraudulent Legal defense fund. 

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21 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

I would never say I dislike you nor that you don't have original thoughts, but this single statement could be the seed for a major discussion.

I see tax policy and attitudes spawned by society as the major contributors to the globalist establishment owning everything.

The idea that money is a measure of worth and that rich people must be deserving and poor people must be morally deficient comes out of our society, our politics, and our religion.

The idea that big corporations and the wealthy are "Job creators" is counter to economics.  Demand creates jobs.

The Congressional servitude of both parties to the elites and crafting legislation to favor them in exchange for campaign funding shapes our tax and public policy.

The antagonism toward unions and regulations designed to hold corporations accountable for damage entrenches the global elite in positions of power.

The blind eye toward multibillion dollar global investment funds buying up housing at the disadvantage of ordinary citizens is tacit approval that society must take a backseat to the desires of unrestrained capitalism.

Republicans have a huge part in that, all of their talking points focus on calling any effort to slow the flow of capital to the elites socialism or communism.

The state and state supporting religions are shaping the narrative that the elites have a God given right to rule us all.

 

That is why we need term limits on congress and the senate AND campaing contribution limits.  No campaign should start more than 6 months before the election and no politician at the federal level shoul need or be allowed to collect more than a certain amount (like 50,000).   That would nip the huge contributions from huge corporations in the bud.  I have seen evidence that Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama were paid by certain pharmacuetical companies to win their elections.   Nurses on every corner shoving flu shots at everyone in the bigs cities, soldiers marched to the dispensary to be forced to get a flu shot, etc.;  and the new manbirdpig flu shot being available to anyone who would take it, every pharmacy, grocery with a pharmacy, doctor, employers had people giving out that flu shot and anyone who wanted the regular flu shot also got a second H1N1 flu shot even though that H1N1 was in the regular flu shot.   Who paid for all that?

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