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Bullfighting ban proposal goes before French MPs


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Imported from Spain in the 19th Century, bullfighting remains popular across large parts of southern France.

Now, for the first time, a proposal to ban the "corrida" has reached the floor of the National Assembly - a sign of public sentiment shifting in favour of animal rights.

Sponsored by the far-left Nupes alliance, it faces an uphill battle.

The government officially opposes a ban and pro-corrida MPs promise to talk the measure out of parliamentary time.

Though many in President Emmanuel Macron's party are personally in favour, the Élysée Palace is wary of a ban, believing it would exacerbate tensions between city and country, and Paris and the regions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63734261

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They need to ban it. It was a pagan ritual turned into a brutal bloodsport and needs to go.

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28 minutes ago, Orphalesion said:

Really it should have been banned long ago under EU law.

EU law only applies to the countries willing to follow it.

Like how Greece and Italy smoked up their economies, lied about it and almost caused a serious crash, but no one is in prison.

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2 hours ago, Piney said:

EU law only applies to the countries willing to follow it.

Like how Greece and Italy smoked up their economies, lied about it and almost caused a serious crash, but no one is in prison.

 

2 hours ago, Orphalesion said:

Really it should have been banned long ago under EU law.

There are lots of misconceptions about 'EU law.' It doesn't really exist. The EU is not a country, nation, a confederacy or a federation. It is simply a group of nations that have adopted a voluntary code that includes common goals to achieve democratic and financial harmony. No one is compelled to join it, and nation states are free to leave. There is no EU president or PM, and 'EU law' simply codifies the relationship, it does not define it and has no bearing on individual national sovereignty. It also does not supersede international law, or the law of the ECHR. 

There is ongoing debate in the UK at present as to whether or not we should make a 'bonfire' of EU laws. It is nonsense. It is just a political gambit. The UK is not bound by any EU laws. It is only bound by its own laws.

One of the most topical concerns at present is the UK allowing water companies to pour effluent (sewage) into rivers and onto beaches. EU regulations stipulate that this should not be allowed. Water companies want to continue doing it because it is cheaper than filtering effluent. Brexiters argue that they should be allowed to carry on doing it because it is their right to make maximum profits for shareholders. Rejoiners argue that they should stop doing it because it affects our human rights to enjoy clean waterways. The EU has no dog in this fight. The UK can do whatever it likes. It can drown itself in effluent if it wants. Similarly, the Spanish can not only kill bulls, but they can also kill cats and dogs if they want, and the Cypriots can continue netting and killing migrating songbirds. It is up to them. Their country, their laws.

What they can't do, is remain members of the EU if they continue and they go against regulations, agreed commonly, by the EU and which they are bound. There will be no international sanctions, they will just no longer belong to the EU.

(The EU rules are underpinned by the Rule of Law. The UK was one of the first countries to recognize the Rule of Law. One of its most famous examples is "Habeus Corpus"- "show me the body!" If someone was arrested and about to be executed, their defenders could demand habeus corpus to see the accused and examine the evidence before the sentence was carried out- to the relief of the accused, and it could be demanded whatever the charge, even including treason. This is obviously a very extreme example, but it is interesting).

The Rule of Law prevents the state doing whatever it wants- it divides the state into three divisions: it divides it into the judiciary (judges), the legislative (law makers), and the executive (police and military) and makes sure they cannot influence each other).

 

 

 

 

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