Knob Oddy Posted November 28, 2022 #26 Share Posted November 28, 2022 How can countries like Canada, NZ and Australia criticize China for suppressing protests about covid lockdowns? It's literally the same policy their countries have implemented. The only reason we dont see more images from these countries showing similar events is because these countries ABANDONED their draconian position for political purposes, not health reasons. Surely the "zero covid" policy of China is more acceptable than allowing free movement during a pandemic? At least that was the opinion last year 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkHunter Posted November 28, 2022 #27 Share Posted November 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said: How can countries like Canada, NZ and Australia criticize China for suppressing protests about covid lockdowns? It's literally the same policy their countries have implemented. The only reason we dont see more images from these countries showing similar events is because these countries ABANDONED their draconian position for political purposes, not health reasons. Surely the "zero covid" policy of China is more acceptable than allowing free movement during a pandemic? At least that was the opinion last year It's a bit different what Canada, New Zealand, and Australia did and what China did/continues to do. Not allowing mass gatherings is one thing, but welding people into their apartments is something else. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted November 28, 2022 #28 Share Posted November 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said: How can countries like Canada, NZ and Australia criticize China for suppressing protests about covid lockdowns? It's literally the same policy their countries have implemented. The only reason we dont see more images from these countries showing similar events is because these countries ABANDONED their draconian position for political purposes, not health reasons. Surely the "zero covid" policy of China is more acceptable than allowing free movement during a pandemic? At least that was the opinion last year By literally you mean figuratively, right? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knob Oddy Posted November 28, 2022 #29 Share Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, DarkHunter said: It's a bit different what Canada, New Zealand, and Australia did and what China did/continues to do. Not allowing mass gatherings is one thing, but welding people into their apartments is something else. Zero covid policies are the same. People who left their residence were charged and people were locked in isolation unit in all countries mentioned. The strategy might be a little different, but whether you were welded in or had soldiers at your gates, you couldn't leave. If China left a cop or soldier at the door instead of welding it closed, you'd be happy with china's response? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted November 29, 2022 #30 Share Posted November 29, 2022 47 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said: Zero covid policies are the same. People who left their residence were charged and people were locked in isolation unit in all countries mentioned. The strategy might be a little different, but whether you were welded in or had soldiers at your gates, you couldn't leave. If China left a cop or soldier at the door instead of welding it closed, you'd be happy with china's response? Didn't happen here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knob Oddy Posted November 29, 2022 #31 Share Posted November 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: Didn't happen here. Haha. Right. What happened to people who tried to leave the covid camps in Australia? Just Google Australia covid camps and look at the images and news articles. The covid camps had police and military guards 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knob Oddy Posted November 29, 2022 #32 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Golden Duck said: By literally you mean figuratively, right? I suppose you're right. China never implemented a vaccine mandate, so the totalitarian communists at least respected the ruling in the Nuremberg trials around forced and coerced medical treatment. Other than that it is literally the same policy and actions. Use force to suppress protests, lock up dissenters and isolate whomever is deemed a covid threat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted November 29, 2022 #33 Share Posted November 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said: Haha. Right. What happened to people who tried to leave the covid camps in Australia? Just Google Australia covid camps and look at the images and news articles. The covid camps had police and military guards I'm in Brisbane. First day of working from home I went and fish and chips by Cabbage Tree Creek in Noryh Brisbane. Like I said it didn’t happen here. The camps you are talking about were endorsed by the indigenous community and at the communities request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knob Oddy Posted November 29, 2022 #34 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Golden Duck said: I'm in Brisbane. First day of working from home I went and fish and chips by Cabbage Tree Creek in Noryh Brisbane. Like I said it didn’t happen here. The camps you are talking about were endorsed by the indigenous community and at the communities request. What do you think of the covid protesters in Australia (particularly Melbourne, but there were others)? And what do you think about the covid protesters in China? How do you justify the difference/cognitive dissonance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted November 29, 2022 #35 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Knob Oddy said: What do you think of the covid protesters in Australia (particularly Melbourne, but there were others)? And what do you think about the covid protesters in China? How do you justify the difference/cognitive dissonance? Let's see. Melbourne is in Victoria. I guess there's your answer. The cognitive issues are. Etwern your ears. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knob Oddy Posted November 29, 2022 #36 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Golden Duck said: Let's see. Melbourne is in Victoria. I guess there's your answer. The cognitive issues are. Etwern your ears. And I suppose you think Victorians aren't your countrymen? You literally don't care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted November 29, 2022 #37 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Knob Oddy said: And I suppose you think Victorians aren't your countrymen? You literally don't care? There was Victorian election last weekend. Did that go over your head? There was no change government. Elections are usually accepted as more reliable than polls when gauging public opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted November 29, 2022 Author #38 Share Posted November 29, 2022 9 hours ago, Knob Oddy said: Haha. Right. What happened to people who tried to leave the covid camps in Australia? Just Google Australia covid camps and look at the images and news articles. The covid camps had police and military guards Covid "camps" in Australia never existed. Check your facts: Australian covid camps are fake news 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knob Oddy Posted November 29, 2022 #39 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Alchopwn said: Covid "camps" in Australia never existed. Check your facts: Australian covid camps are fake news You're joking right? I never claimed that unvaccinated people would be put into camps. Why post such an article? Yes covid camps existed in Australia. Many in fact. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-59486285.amp Quote Australian police have arrested three people who broke out of a Covid quarantine compound in the middle of the night. The Howard Springs centre near Darwin in the Northern Territory is one of Australia's main quarantine facilities for people returning to the country. Police said the trio scaled a fence to break out of the facility. Officers found them after a manhunt on Wednesday Edited November 29, 2022 by Knob Oddy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knob Oddy Posted November 29, 2022 #40 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, Golden Duck said: There was Victorian election last weekend. Did that go over your head? There was no change government. Elections are usually accepted as more reliable than polls when gauging public opinion. What has that got to do with the question I asked? I'm sure Xi will get elected in China as well, but why do you view Chinese covid protesters differently than Victorians (I previously said Australians, but you obviously dont consider victorians as your fellow citizens)? Edited November 29, 2022 by Knob Oddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted November 29, 2022 #41 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said: What has that got to do with the question I asked? I'm sure Xi will get elected in China as well, but why do you view Chinese covid protesters differently than Victorians (I previously said Australians, but you obviously dont consider victorians as your fellow citizens)? Health is a State responsibility. You asked about Melbourne protesters. They were protesting measures implemented in Victoria by the Victorian Government. Based on the election results Victorians don't have a problem with the Anne Dandrews Government. The protesters must be a tiny minority. Whatever happened in Victoria didn’t happen here in Queensland. I don't get to vote in Victorian elections; and, Victorians don't get to vote in Queensland elections. Trying to compare the election of Anne Dandrews with the elctoral success of Xi is another example that demonstrates your cogbitive issues. Edited November 29, 2022 by Golden Duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knob Oddy Posted November 29, 2022 #42 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Golden Duck said: Health is a State responsibility. You asked about Melbourne protesters. They were protesting measures implemented in Victoria by the Victorian Government. Based on the election results Victorians don't have a problem with the Anne Dandrews Government. The protesters must be a tiny minority. Whatever happened in Victoria didn’t happen here in Queensland. I don't get to vote in Victorian elections; and, Victorians don't get to vote in Queensland elections. Trying to compare the election of Anne Dandrews with the elctoral success of Xi is another example that demonstrates your cogbitive issues. My question once again: Why do you view covid protesters in China differently than covid protesters in the west? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted November 29, 2022 #43 Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Knob Oddy said: My question once again: Why do you view covid protesters in China differently than covid protesters in the west? You didn't ask me that question. You asked: 20 hours ago, Knob Oddy said: And I suppose you think Victorians aren't your countrymen? You literally don't care? Again, the Victorian Government is a different entity than the Queensland Government. As I originally said, what you purport happened in Australia, did not happen here. I won't agree with your lies and attempts to move the goalposts. Edited November 29, 2022 by Golden Duck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qxcontinuum Posted November 30, 2022 #44 Share Posted November 30, 2022 Australia and other Hypocritical European democracies have imposed similar oppression laws, putting military or police force on their people claiming to be democracies while invoking emergency acts, issuing lockdowns, ticketing innexistent laws , beating and killing freedom protesters, breaking sets of laws that makes democracy. There is 0 difference between what they did and China now. Masses are waking up against oppression and tirany , the time has come. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 30, 2022 #45 Share Posted November 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said: Australia and other Hypocritical European democracies have imposed similar oppression laws, putting military or police force on their people claiming to be democracies while invoking emergency acts, issuing lockdowns, ticketing innexistent laws , beating and killing freedom protesters, breaking sets of laws that makes democracy. There is 0 difference between what they did and China now. Masses are waking up against oppression and tirany , the time has come. Oi I'm an Aussie. What crap BS you speaking about my country now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted November 30, 2022 #46 Share Posted November 30, 2022 On 11/29/2022 at 10:21 AM, Knob Oddy said: Haha. Right. What happened to people who tried to leave the covid camps in Australia? Just Google Australia covid camps and look at the images and news articles. The covid camps had police and military guards What a load of cow cookies You are so full of it, it's surprising you can stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted November 30, 2022 #47 Share Posted November 30, 2022 55 minutes ago, qxcontinuum said: Australia and other Hypocritical European democracies have imposed similar oppression laws, putting military or police force on their people claiming to be democracies while invoking emergency acts, issuing lockdowns, ticketing innexistent laws , beating and killing freedom protesters, breaking sets of laws that makes democracy. There is 0 difference between what they did and China now. Masses are waking up against oppression and tirany , the time has come. Does your sleepwalking include posting on the internet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted November 30, 2022 #48 Share Posted November 30, 2022 On 11/27/2022 at 2:50 PM, Knob Oddy said: Its the scientific thing to do! It is the political thing to do, not the best science. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted December 1, 2022 #49 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) "New York Times Decides Lockdowns are Actually Draconian and Economically Destructive when China Does Them" "Many were fed up with Mr. Xi ... and his 'Zero-Covid' policy, which continues to disrupt everyday life, hurt livelihoods and isolate the country," writes the Times in pacific unselfawareness." The Chinese government on Monday blamed “forces with ulterior motives” for linking a deadly fire in the western Xinjiang region to strict Covid measures, a key driver as the protests spread across the country. In much the same way, the New York Times blamed shadowy political actors with ties to Trump for anti-lockdown protests in 2020. Western lockdowns were necessary to save lives. Chinese lockdowns are the repressive tactic of an undemocratic regime. https://www.eugyppius.com/p/new-york-time-decides-lockdowns-are?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email Edited December 1, 2022 by itsnotoutthere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted December 1, 2022 #50 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Another example of the draconian covid measures in China......oh...hang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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