Myles Posted December 6, 2022 #26 Share Posted December 6, 2022 21 hours ago, jjherring said: This revelation recently caught my interest because of his status as a cryptographer for the CIA. Deathbed confessions are almost always motivated by a sense of duty as well rather than desire to make up stories for fame, so despite what might seem to be inconsistencies, I'm almost convinced that Kewper's story has elements of truth when it comes to his encounters. Time definitely did some damage to his accounts of what he experienced though. This video does a nice job at combing through the details: https://karyawan.co.id/iO84WevlmgdX If possible they are also told to help make sure their family is taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bed of chaos Posted December 8, 2022 #27 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) On 12/4/2022 at 11:09 AM, Hawken said: Youtube has been censoring & demonetizing some users channels that upload UFO footage. This user claims so at the end of his latest videos. (1) Think Anomalous - UFO's aside, nowadays YouTube will demonitize anyone over anything. I've seen smaller channels get demonitized for disliking large channels or influencers. Its nonsense. Edited December 8, 2022 by Bed of chaos 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted December 8, 2022 #28 Share Posted December 8, 2022 58 minutes ago, Bed of chaos said: UFO's aside, nowadays YouTube will demonitize anyone over anything. I've seen smaller channels get demonitized for disliking large channels or influencers. Its nonsense. I knew YT was demonetizing channels that were political. But channels with strange phenomena? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 8, 2022 #29 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) On 12/2/2022 at 3:32 AM, UM-Bot said: A 2013 interview with a former-CIA agent who claimed to have intimate knowledge of Area 51 has been doing the rounds this week. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/362360/former-cia-agent-kewper-area-51-deathbed-confession-resurfaces I expect more revelations to come down the ladder on what the U. S. government knows about UFOs. Roscoe Hillenkoetter CIA Chief Roscoe Hillenkoetter on UFO Cover-up in New York Times https://www.wanttoknow.info/600228nytimes First CIA director: aliens exist, US withheld 'this fact' from public https://www.tweaktown.com/news/80410/first-cia-director-aliens-exist-us-withheld-this-fact-from-public/index.html Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter: 1st Director of the CIA (1947-1950) "It is time for the truth to be brought out....Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officials are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense....I urge immediate Congressional action to reduce the dangers from secrecy about Unidentified Flying Objects." Hillenkoetter, Roscoe; "Aliens from Space", Major Donald E. Keyhoe, 1975 The story below is about the above article mentioning a Cuban MiG-21 that was destroyed by a UFO. The 1967 Cuban Jet Incident NE of Cuba March 1967 MiG-21, 'Fishbed'/'Mongol' The jets were guided to within five kilometers (three miles) of the UFO by Cuban ground control intercept radar personnel. The flight leader radioed that the object was a bright metallic sphere with no visible markings or appendages. When a try at radio contact failed, Cuban air defense headquarters ordered the flight leader to arm his weapons and destroy the object. The leader reported his radar was locked onto the bogey and his missiles were armed. Seconds later, the wingman screamed to the ground controller that his leader's jet had exploded. When he gained his composure, the wing man radioed there was no smoke or flame, that his leader's MIG-21 had disintegrated. Cuban radar then reported the UFO quickly accelerated and climbed above 30,000 meters (98,000 feet). At last report, it was heading south-southeast towards South America. An Intelligence Spot Report was sent to NSA headquarters, since AFSS and its units are under NSA operational control. Such reports are standard practice in cases of aircraft losses by hostile nations. NSA is required to acknowledge receipt of such reports. But the 6947th's Detachment "A" did not get one; so it sent a follow-up report. Within hours, Detachment "A" received orders to ship all tapes and pertinent data to NSA and to list the Cuban aircraft loss in squadron files as due to "equipment malfunction." At least fifteen to twenty people in the Detachment were said to be fully informed of the incident. Presumably, the data sent to NSA included direction-finding measurements that NSA might later combine with other site's data to triangulate the location and altitude of the MIG-21 flight paths. If the AFSS equipment in Florida was sensitive enough, the UFO could have been tracked by its reflection of the Cuban ground and airborne radar. http://www.nicap.org/reports/cuban1.htm Edited December 8, 2022 by skyeagle409 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted December 8, 2022 #30 Share Posted December 8, 2022 14 hours ago, Hawken said: I knew YT was demonetizing channels that were political. But channels with strange phenomena? YouTube has no choice if advertisers don't want their ads on those channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted December 8, 2022 #31 Share Posted December 8, 2022 36 minutes ago, astrobeing said: YouTube has no choice if advertisers don't want their ads on those channels. I've noticed channels that are political get 10s of 1000s if not millions of views and still get demonetized heavier than strange phenomena. One would think an advertiser would want channels with a lot of views. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 9, 2022 #32 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 8:58 PM, skyeagle409 said: I expect more revelations to come down the ladder on what the U. S. government knows about UFOs. The following story further adds to the 1976 Iranian F-4 Phantom UFO encounter as mentioned in the above news article. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The DSP-1 satellite detected an infrared anomaly during the time of this event that lasted for about an hour An impressive breakthrough in the confirmation of the Iranian UFO encounter was uncovered by researchers Lee Graham and Ron Regehr, of Aero-Jet in California.They confirmed that the UFO sighting over Tehran was, in fact, tracked by the United States military's DSP satellite. During their investigations, Graham and Regehr have located computer print-outs from the time frame of the Iranian UFO overflight, which show that the DSP definitely detected an "anomalous object" in Iranian air space. Computer printout of the anomalous event with the classified term "238 SCANS - POSSIBLE SR." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The White House received documents on the 1976 Iranian UFO encounter as well as the CIA and other government agencies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Captain Henry S. Shields - United States Air Force, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=1649275 USAF UFO REPORTS "Captain Edward J.Ruppelt, former chief of Project Blue Book, has confirmed the existence of four important documents that should be noted. In 1948, in a "Top Secret" estimate, the (Air Technical Intelligence Center, Wright-Patterson AFB) concluded that UFOs were interplanetary spaceships. In 1952, an Air Force Intelligence analysis of UFO maneuvers brought the same conclusion... interplanetary." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted December 9, 2022 #33 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 12/8/2022 at 6:58 AM, skyeagle409 said: I expect more revelations to come down the ladder on what the U. S. government knows about UFOs. [...] Years go by, and still no ETs... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted December 9, 2022 #34 Share Posted December 9, 2022 23 hours ago, Hawken said: I've noticed channels that are political get 10s of 1000s if not millions of views and still get demonetized heavier than strange phenomena. One would think an advertiser would want channels with a lot of views. Advertising is much more complicated than that. If the viewers are not in a good target audience, they might as well not exist. Or if the channel is spewing nonsense, advertisers would not take the risk of associating their products with it. There are a lot of channels on YouTube that get millions of views and advertisers can pick and choose which ones they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted December 9, 2022 #35 Share Posted December 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, astrobeing said: Advertising is much more complicated than that. If the viewers are not in a good target audience, they might as well not exist. Or if the channel is spewing nonsense, advertisers would not take the risk of associating their products with it. There are a lot of channels on YouTube that get millions of views and advertisers can pick and choose which ones they want. I suppose so depending on the advertisers' political views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 10, 2022 #36 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, bmk1245 said: Years go by, and still no ETs... I will disagree with you on this. The Air Force has already admitted that the UFOs in question are, the in the Air Force's own words: "Interplanetary Spaceships." Additionally, the military confirmed the reality of ET in the Roswell newspaper on July 8, 1947. Brig. Gen. Arthur E. Exon Commanding Officer of Wright-Patterson AFB 1964-66 https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/104819/brigadier-general-arthur-ernest-exon/ Gen. Exon has been the highest ranking military officer to come out and say directly that Roswell was the crash of a spacecraft and that alien bodies were recovered. "...Roswell was the recovery of a craft from space." Super Materials of today with properties of the Roswell materials. http://roswellproof....tml#anchor_3779 Fast Walker Incident MAY 5, 1984, an alert was triggered at the North America Air Defense Command. Moving at 22,000 miles per hour, it was heading toward Earth and had been determined to NOT be incoming ballistic missiles, or any other type of conventionally explainable object. Once tracked, it was code-named "Fast Walker". This object was first spotted by the ultra-sensitive orbiting USDSP satellites our country uses for detailed surveillance and air defense. These satellites have the infra-red capability to spot small heat sources on the surface of the earth and are time-proven as effective monitoring devices. http://www.thelivingmoon.com/46Karl1...rajectory.jpeg NORAD and UFOs On June 5, 1995 at a Bay Area lecture, Dr. Steven Greer revealed further findings. He has received leaked information that the Air Force, through its North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) facility deep inside Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado, has tracked an average of 500 "fastwalkers" (UFOs) each year entering the Earth's atmosphere from deep space. This corroborates a similar report from AeroJet engineers Lee Graham and Ron Regehr, who have shown UFO researcher Don Ecker documents showing that AeroJet's DSP satellite system alone has routinely detected UFOs flying into Earth's atmosphere from deep space 2-3 times per month. Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Howard Blum reported that NORAD tracks many UFOs on its deep space radars. HOW SCIENTISTS TRACKED A FLYING SAUCER by Commander Robert B. McLaughlin, USN An accurate plot of the object's course was recorded. Analyzing this data later, I can state definitely that: 1. The object, viewed in cross section, was elliptical in shape. 2. It was about 105 feet in diameter. 3. It was flying at an altitude of approximately 56 miles. (This was determined by a ballistics expert. An object at a lower altitude on this particular bright day could not have fitted the data taken. For security reasons, I cannot go deeper into this method of calculating altitude.) 4. Its speed was about 5 miles per second. 5. At the end of its trajectory, it swerved abruptly upward, altering its angle of elevation by 5 degrees -- corresponding to an increase in altitude of about 25 miles -- in a period of 10 seconds. Rough calculation indicates that a force of more that 20 G's (20 times the pull of gravity) would be required to produce this elevation in this time. 6. The object was visible for 60 seconds. 7. It disappeared at an elevation of 29 degrees. Close questioning of the observers prior to the official report that went to "Project Saucer" at Wright-Patterson Field in Dayton, Ohio, produced an almost unanimous judgment that the objects was discus shaped and that it was a flat white color. High powered binoculars showed no exhaust trail, no stream of light or other evidence of a propulsions system. And, no sound. What was it? I am convinced that it was a flying saucer and, further, that these disks are space ships from another planet, operated by animate, intelligent beings. http://www.nicap.org/true-mc.htm Chile announces UFOs are for real: On 2nd April 1997, Chilean newspaper "La Cuarta" has the following headline: "UFO Sighting of Arica is Confirmed by La Direccion General de Aeronautic Civil." Chile did start to join the small number of countries who officially stated that the nature of UFOs is of intelligent driven flying machines. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PERU AIR FORCE SETS UP UFO OFFICE: The Miami Herald US newspaper reported that the Peruvian Air Forces have now set up a nationwide system to track alleged UFOs, whose flashing lights seem to be distracting pilots and radar operators from doing their jobs. "The Air Force is concerned about the disturbances in our air space," said Air Force Commander Julio Chamorro, who sees unidentified flying objects as a threat to national security. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chilean Government Turned Over Secret UFO Files To U.S. Santiago, Feb 18 (AFP-NA)-- The Chilean Air Force (FACH) turned over secret information regarding UFO sightings to the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) according to statements issued in Santiago on Sunday by Ovnivision, an organization composed of researchers of this phenomenon. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Declassification of UFO documents Declassification of UFO documents began by the United Kingdom in 2008. Russia, Ecuador, France, Denmark, Brazil, Sweden, Canada and many countries follow that decision during 2009 making public some of the material they had in possession. The government of New Zealand has stated that it will release UFO files in 2010 after personal information is removed. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- China Discloses UFO Reality: Aliens Sending UFO Probes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Russian Navy Reveals Its Secret UFO Encounters --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uruguay Declassify UFO records. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand releases UFO files ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited December 10, 2022 by skyeagle409 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted December 10, 2022 #37 Share Posted December 10, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 10:16 AM, Hawken said: I suppose so depending on the advertisers' political views. It's not just political channels. They've demonotized channels about mental illness, homelessness, drug addiction, and other problems people deal with in life. Apparently the advertisers don't think the viewers of these channels are potential customers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freez1 Posted December 11, 2022 #38 Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 7:38 AM, Myles said: It would be great to know the truth. In this case it would be great to know if and how much he was paid for the interview. Exactly I was just wondering the same thing. If you can’t make enough money before you pass away ride on a fairy tale and snatch a few bucks. Death bed confession? If I knew what he claimed to know if I had been warned not to talk about it I wouldn’t open up on my death bed in fear of my family after I was gone. I’m sorry but I’m a skeptic on his story and logic behind it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 12, 2022 #39 Share Posted December 12, 2022 21 hours ago, Freez1 said: Exactly I was just wondering the same thing. If you can’t make enough money before you pass away ride on a fairy tale and snatch a few bucks. Death bed confession? If I knew what he claimed to know if I had been warned not to talk about it I wouldn’t open up on my death bed in fear of my family after I was gone. I’m sorry but I’m a skeptic on his story and logic behind it. Yet every mushroom from the Roswell non event would tell how their lives families lives were threatened if they talked how very deeply scared they were and all made great $$$ doing books and documentaries some even did the UFO convention circuit talking and talking and talking about it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 12, 2022 #40 Share Posted December 12, 2022 4 hours ago, the13bats said: Yet every mushroom from the Roswell non event would tell how their lives families lives were threatened if they talked how very deeply scared they were and all made great $$$ doing books and documentaries some even did the UFO convention circuit talking and talking and talking about it. When it comes to money, you can't take it with you when the final time comes. And, deathbed confessions can provide additional information that can be fact checked. The Roswell incident occurred in July 1947 and I also might add that official documentation have shown that all 3 of the Air Force's Roswell coverup stories (weather balloon, Project Mogul balloon flight #4, and 6-foot test dummies and accident victims of the 1950's) are false. Amazingly, it was the Air Force that pointed me the way to documentation that debunked its own Roswell coverup stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 12, 2022 #41 Share Posted December 12, 2022 21 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: When it comes to money, you can't take it with you when the final time comes. And, deathbed confessions can provide additional information that can be fact checked. The Roswell incident occurred in July 1947 and I also might add that official documentation have shown that all 3 of the Air Force's Roswell coverup stories (weather balloon, Project Mogul balloon flight #4, and 6-foot test dummies and accident victims of the 1950's) are false. Amazingly, it was the Air Force that pointed me the way to documentation that debunked its own Roswell coverup stories. Take money with you no you cant but like with patterson and his bigfoot hoax he wanted to leave money for his wife. Now if you believe the stories with zero supporting everdence of mushrooms like, glenn Dennis, frankie rowe, frank kofman, etc etc etc thats a you problem. And the orginal brazel report to the sheriff didnt talk about bodies it described weather balloon radar reflector debris, of course if you have proof otherwise present it. Note bs stories are not at all proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 12, 2022 #42 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, the13bats said: Take money with you no you cant but like with patterson and his bigfoot hoax he wanted to leave money for his wife. Now if you believe the stories with zero supporting everdence of mushrooms like, glenn Dennis, frankie rowe, frank kofman, etc etc etc thats a you problem. And the orginal brazel report to the sheriff didnt talk about bodies it described weather balloon radar reflector debris, of course if you have proof otherwise present it. Note bs stories are not at all proof. I don't bother with bigfoot, Glenn Dennis or Frankie Rowe. I am more interested in official declassified military and intelligence documents and performance data available under the FOIA. In tact, it was the Air Force that concluded in its own EOTS, ATIC Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, that the objects in question are, in the Air Force's own words, "Interplanetary Spaceships." There was no weather balloon rawin device recovered from the Foster Ranch. The debris in Ramey's office was a setup to get the press off of their backs.. Check it out. SUGGEST SAUCERS ARE RADAR TARGETS FOR WEATHER OBSERVATION AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eight Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey's office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida I might also add that it was the Air Force that brought up bodies in its 1997 Roswell Report. ____________________________________ 1997 Roswell Report The conclusions are: Air Force activities which occurred over a period of many years have been consolidated and are now represented to have occurred in two or three days in July 1947. "Aliens" observed in the New Mexico desert were actually anthropomorphic test dummies that were carried aloft by U.S. Air Force high altitude balloons for scientific research. The "unusual" military activities in the New Mexico desert were high altitude research balloon launch and recovery operations. Reports of military units that always seemed to arrive shortly after the crash of a flying saucer to retrieve the saucer and "crew," were actually accurate descriptions of Air Force personnel engaged in anthropomorphic dummy recovery operations. Claims of "alien bodies" at the Roswell Army Air Field hospital were most likely a combination of two separate incidents: ) a 1956 KC-97 aircraft accident in which 11 Air Force members lost their lives; and, ) a 1959 manned balloon mishap in which two Air Force pilots were injured. In other words, the Air Force is saying that the 4-foot alien bodies people saw in 1947, were 6-foot test dummies and accident victims of the 1950's. Now, let's take a look here Dummies Weren't Classified Says Retired Colonel The Associated Press GRANTS — A retired Air Force officer says he worked with high tech crash test dummies in the 1950s, and that there's no way they'd be confused with aliens described in rumors arising from the Roswell Incident. Lt. Col. (Ret.) Raymond A. Madson said he isn't buying the latest Air Force explanation of what occurred in Roswell in July 1947. Edited December 12, 2022 by skyeagle409 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 12, 2022 #43 Share Posted December 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: I don't bother with bigfoot, Glenn Dennis or Frankie Rowe. I am more interested in official declassified military and intelligence documents and performance data available under the FOIA. In tact, it was the Air Force that concluded in its own EOTS, ATIC Wright-Patterson AFB, OH, that the objects in question are, in the Air Force's own words, "Interplanetary Spaceships." There was no weather balloon rawin device recovered from the Foster Ranch. The debris in Ramey's office was a setup to get the press off of their backs.. Check it out. SUGGEST SAUCERS ARE RADAR TARGETS FOR WEATHER OBSERVATION AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eight Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey's office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida You have present zero to prove that roswell wasnt earthly and man-made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 12, 2022 #44 Share Posted December 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, the13bats said: You have present zero to prove that roswell wasnt earthly and man-made. Remember, it was the U. S. Army that released this headline. 13 minutes ago, the13bats said: You have present zero to prove that roswell wasnt earthly and man-made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 12, 2022 #45 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: Remember, it was the U. S. Army that released this headline. Really?! That is your best proof?! Okay, you are dismissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchopwn Posted December 12, 2022 #46 Share Posted December 12, 2022 ALiens are a bluff by the US Military to hide the fact they have nuclear powered aircraft that are highly polluting from the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esoteric_toad Posted December 12, 2022 #47 Share Posted December 12, 2022 In total, the number of people that own a smart and feature phone is 7.26 Billion, making up 90.72% of the world's population All those hi resolution cameras out there and still nothing convincing. That is what is truly telling. Seems the 'aliens' 50-80 years ago were extra sloppy and suddenly with the advent of readily available high resolution cameras and videos they have suddenly gone all stealth mode. That or they simply didn't exist, here, in the first place. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted December 12, 2022 #48 Share Posted December 12, 2022 The military and government have been shown to have exagerrated and/or been flat out mistaken from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted December 12, 2022 #49 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 hours ago, esoteric_toad said: In total, the number of people that own a smart and feature phone is 7.26 Billion, making up 90.72% of the world's population All those hi resolution cameras out there and still nothing convincing. That is what is truly telling. Seems the 'aliens' 50-80 years ago were extra sloppy and suddenly with the advent of readily available high resolution cameras and videos they have suddenly gone all stealth mode. Even worse, people are still arguing over a photo taken over 70 years ago of a small saucer-shaped object hanging from a power line. UFOlogy hasn't moved an inch in decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 12, 2022 #50 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, esoteric_toad said: In total, the number of people that own a smart and feature phone is 7.26 Billion, making up 90.72% of the world's population All those hi resolution cameras out there and still nothing convincing. That is what is truly telling. Seems the 'aliens' 50-80 years ago were extra sloppy and suddenly with the advent of readily available high resolution cameras and videos they have suddenly gone all stealth mode. That or they simply didn't exist, here, in the first place. I disagree. I saw an UFO over my base in Vietnam during the Spring of 1968 and it wasn't a rocket, aircraft or balloon. After my assignment in Vietnam, I was sent to Hill AFB, UT, which was responsible for investigating UFOs that were disabling our Minuteman missiles at SAC bases since Hill AFB was the depot for the Minuteman missile. The Boeing tech rep assigned to Hill AFB, said the final report would indicate a UFO was involved in the disabling of the missiles. Behind closed doors, the government admits the UFOs in question are extraterrestrials and you should have read details about an Air Force jet firing on a flying saucer, which was published in an Air Force's science book at the U.S. Air Force Academy. When the government's public door is open regarding UFOS: They are "Unknowns" When the government's public door is closed: They are Extraterrestrial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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