skyeagle409 Posted December 12, 2022 #51 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, the13bats said: Really?! That is your best proof?! Okay, you are dismissed. There is much more and let's remember, all of the Air Force's cover stories for the Roswell incident have been debunked and let's not forget that it was the Air Force that added alien bodies in its 1997 Roswell Report. The military would not have issued a sensational report that it captured a flying saucer, which made its way into newspapers on July 8, 1947, which once again, is the same date that flying saucers were overflying Muroc AAF and Rogers Dry Lake in California. Edited December 12, 2022 by skyeagle409 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 12, 2022 #52 Share Posted December 12, 2022 28 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: There is much more and let's remember, all of the Air Force's cover stories for the Roswell incident have been debunked and let's not forget that it was the Air Force that added alien bodies in its 1997 Roswell Report. The military would not have issued a sensational report that it captured a flying saucer, which made its way into newspapers on July 8, 1947, which once again, is the same date that flying saucers were overflying Muroc AAF and Rogers Dry Lake in California. You are just stating your opinion, if there was a crashed alien craft with bodies show us the proof or move on. Stories are mot proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 12, 2022 #53 Share Posted December 12, 2022 5 hours ago, astrobeing said: Even worse, people are still arguing over a photo taken over 70 years ago of a small saucer-shaped object hanging from a power line. UFOlogy hasn't moved an inch in decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 12, 2022 #54 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, the13bats said: You are just stating your opinion, if there was a crashed alien craft with bodies show us the proof or move on. Stories are mot proof. Review the documents I have posted. The Air Force would not have issued multiple false coverup stories regarding its original report that it captured a flying saucer in July 1947 if not true. What did a former commanding general of Wright-Patterson AFB say in regards to what the Roswell Incident was? Remember, he was the Air Force officer who overflew both crash sites. What I saying is that the original Roswell newspaper headline revealed what military actually recovered in July 1947. And, the Air Force knew its 1947 weather balloon, 1994 Project Mogul balloon train #4, and 1997 alien body cover stories were false. In other words, the Air Force hid what was recovered in July 1947 in plain sight. Edited December 13, 2022 by skyeagle409 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 13, 2022 #55 Share Posted December 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: Review the documents I have posted. The Air Force would not have issued multiple false coverup stories regarding its original report that it captured a flying saucer in July 1947 if not true. What did a former commanding general of Wright-Patterson AFB say in regards to what the Roswell Incident was? Remember, he was the Air Force officer who overflew both crash sites. What I saying is that the original Roswell newspaper headline revealed what military actually recovered in July 1947. And, the Air Force knew its 1947 weather balloon, 1994 Project Mogul balloon train #4, and 1997 alien body cover stories were false. In other words, the Air Force hid what was recovered in July 1947 in plain sight. You are missing the boat, a headline doesnt make it fact. You still offer no proof of your claims Go back look at the orginal not doctored by aliens true believers report brazel made to the sheriff it didnt describe an interstellar craft it did describe balloon and reflector wreckage. Done. Its not your fault you have fallen into the rabbit hole of rozwell you so badly want it to be a flying saucer thats all you will accept, tell you what prove me wrong post proof of your claims, lets see some pictures there would have taken lots of pics post a few, no excuses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 13, 2022 #56 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, the13bats said: You are missing the boat, a headline doesnt make it fact. You still offer no proof of your claims Go back look at the orginal not doctored by aliens true believers report brazel made to the sheriff it didnt describe an interstellar craft it did describe balloon and reflector wreckage. Done. Its not your fault you have fallen into the rabbit hole of rozwell you so badly want it to be a flying saucer thats all you will accept, tell you what prove me wrong post proof of your claims, lets see some pictures there would have taken lots of pics post a few, no excuses. Read the affidavit of Walter G. Haut, which was revealed after his death. I am providing you with hints and will reiterate that the Roswell headline is direct confirmation from the Army that a flying saucer was recovered. The Roswell press release relating to the Army's recovery of a flying saucer in 1947 would not have been authorized by the commanding officer had he not personally examined the recovered debris in detail himself. Only then, would he have authorized that press release after he was convinced the debris was not of this earth because his career depended upon him making the right judgment call and afterward, he had no choice but to play along with the non-existent balloon cover story. As history has shown, William Blanchard went on to become vice chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force, with promotion to four-star rank. In this position, he shared the responsibility of managing the vast human and material resources of the world's most powerful aerospace force. In other words, he did not make a mistake in identifying the material as debris from a flying saucer. Balsa wood and metal foil were familiar items that were used a regular basis and it would not have taken a large group of soldiers to recover a simple weather balloon, especially since Mac Brazel recovered weather balloons without help from the Army on other occasions. There are 4 main stories related to the Roswell incident, but only one of the following stories is true. 1. - Recovery of a flying saucer 2. - Recovery of a weather balloon, which the Air Force replaced in its 1994 Roswell Report with a Project Mogul balloon flight #4. 3. - Recovery of a Project Mogul balloon flight #4, which balloon records show was a flight that never was because that flight was cancelled on June 4, 1947, as was the case on June 3, 1947. Only a service balloon with a single sonobuoy was later launched without rawin devices. 4. - 6-foot test dummies of the 1950s and accident victims of 1956 and 1959 to explain the 4-foot alien bodies people saw in 1947 Since #2, #3, and #4 cover stories have been debunked, we now find ourselves back to the original story at #1. You can now read the rest of the story at the following link and note that a second crash site was mentioned, which was also confirmed by General Arthur E. Exon, former commanding officer of Wright-Patterson AFB, General Exon was the Air Force officer who overflew the area, and here is what he said. * "Everyone from the White House on down knew that what we had found was not of this world within 24 hours of our finding it. ...Roswell was the recovery of a craft from space." Brig Gen. Arthur E. Exon, Former Commanding Officer of Wright-Patterson AFB https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/104819/brigadier-general-arthur-ernest-exon/ * 2002 SEALED AFFIDAVIT OF WALTER G. HAUT http://vincentamatoauthor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/11-Sealed-Affidavit-Of-Walter-G.-Haut.pdf * June Crain Interview https://www.majesticdocuments.com/pdf/crain_clarksoninterview.pdf Edited December 13, 2022 by skyeagle409 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 13, 2022 #57 Share Posted December 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: Read the affidavit of Walter G. Haut, which was revealed after his death. I am providing you with hints and will reiterate that the Roswell headline is direct confirmation from the Army that a flying saucer was recovered. The Roswell press release relating to the Army's recovery of a flying saucer in 1947 would not have been authorized by the commanding officer had he not personally examined the recovered debris in detail himself. Only then, would he have authorized that press release after he was convinced the debris was not of this earth because his career depended upon him making the right judgment call and afterward, he had no choice but to play along with the non-existent balloon cover story. As history has shown, William Blanchard went on to become vice chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force, with promotion to four-star rank. In this position, he shared the responsibility of managing the vast human and material resources of the world's most powerful aerospace force. In other words, he did not make a mistake in identifying the material as debris from a flying saucer. Balsa wood and metal foil were familiar items that were used a regular basis and it would not have taken a large group of soldiers to recover a simple weather balloon, especially since Mac Brazel recovered weather balloons without help from the Army on other occasions. There are 4 main stories related to the Roswell incident, but only one of the following stories is true. 1. - Recovery of a flying saucer 2. - Recovery of a weather balloon, which the Air Force replaced in its 1994 Roswell Report with a Project Mogul balloon flight #4. 3. - Recovery of a Project Mogul balloon flight #4, which balloon records show was a flight that never was because that flight was cancelled on June 4, 1947, as was the case on June 3, 1947. Only a service balloon with a single sonobuoy was later launched without rawin devices. 4. - 6-foot test dummies of the 1950s and accident victims of 1956 and 1959 to explain the 4-foot alien bodies people saw in 1947 Since #2, #3, and #4 cover stories have been debunked, we now find ourselves back to the original story at #1. You can now read the rest of the story at the following link and note that a second crash site was mentioned, which was also confirmed by General Arthur E. Exon, former commanding officer of Wright-Patterson AFB, General Exon was the Air Force officer who overflew the area, and here is what he said. * "Everyone from the White House on down knew that what we had found was not of this world within 24 hours of our finding it. ...Roswell was the recovery of a craft from space." Brig Gen. Arthur E. Exon, Former Commanding Officer of Wright-Patterson AFB https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/104819/brigadier-general-arthur-ernest-exon/ * 2002 SEALED AFFIDAVIT OF WALTER G. HAUT http://vincentamatoauthor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/11-Sealed-Affidavit-Of-Walter-G.-Haut.pdf * June Crain Interview https://www.majesticdocuments.com/pdf/crain_clarksoninterview.pdf Nope, you offered zero proof you make claimes of an alien craft show it to me dont show me any more cut and paste stories it seems all you have are stories post your proof what you keep posting is not proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted December 13, 2022 #58 Share Posted December 13, 2022 7 hours ago, skyeagle409 said: I am providing you with hints and will reiterate that the Roswell headline is direct confirmation from the Army that a flying saucer was recovered. A year and half later, a headline in the Chicago Daily Tribune directly confirmed that Truman had lost his reelection. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrobeing Posted December 13, 2022 #59 Share Posted December 13, 2022 18 hours ago, skyeagle409 said: You mean the birds? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted December 13, 2022 #60 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 hours ago, skyeagle409 said: Read the affidavit of Walter G. Haut, which was revealed after his death. I am providing you with hints and will reiterate that the Roswell headline is direct confirmation from the Army that a flying saucer was recovered. The Roswell press release relating to the Army's recovery of a flying saucer in 1947 would not have been authorized by the commanding officer had he not personally examined the recovered debris in detail himself. Only then, would he have authorized that press release after he was convinced the debris was not of this earth because his career depended upon him making the right judgment call and afterward, he had no choice but to play along with the non-existent balloon cover story. As history has shown, William Blanchard went on to become vice chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force, with promotion to four-star rank. In this position, he shared the responsibility of managing the vast human and material resources of the world's most powerful aerospace force. In other words, he did not make a mistake in identifying the material as debris from a flying saucer. Balsa wood and metal foil were familiar items that were used a regular basis and it would not have taken a large group of soldiers to recover a simple weather balloon, especially since Mac Brazel recovered weather balloons without help from the Army on other occasions. There are 4 main stories related to the Roswell incident, but only one of the following stories is true. 1. - Recovery of a flying saucer 2. - Recovery of a weather balloon, which the Air Force replaced in its 1994 Roswell Report with a Project Mogul balloon flight #4. 3. - Recovery of a Project Mogul balloon flight #4, which balloon records show was a flight that never was because that flight was cancelled on June 4, 1947, as was the case on June 3, 1947. Only a service balloon with a single sonobuoy was later launched without rawin devices. 4. - 6-foot test dummies of the 1950s and accident victims of 1956 and 1959 to explain the 4-foot alien bodies people saw in 1947 Since #2, #3, and #4 cover stories have been debunked, we now find ourselves back to the original story at #1. You can now read the rest of the story at the following link and note that a second crash site was mentioned, which was also confirmed by General Arthur E. Exon, former commanding officer of Wright-Patterson AFB, General Exon was the Air Force officer who overflew the area, and here is what he said. * "Everyone from the White House on down knew that what we had found was not of this world within 24 hours of our finding it. ...Roswell was the recovery of a craft from space." Brig Gen. Arthur E. Exon, Former Commanding Officer of Wright-Patterson AFB https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/104819/brigadier-general-arthur-ernest-exon/ * 2002 SEALED AFFIDAVIT OF WALTER G. HAUT http://vincentamatoauthor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/11-Sealed-Affidavit-Of-Walter-G.-Haut.pdf * June Crain Interview https://www.majesticdocuments.com/pdf/crain_clarksoninterview.pdf Who has debunked the other options? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 13, 2022 #61 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 hours ago, astrobeing said: You mean the birds? No, I mean craft. Navy pilots had better things to do then chasing birds that were not captured on radar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 13, 2022 #62 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, astrobeing said: A year and half later, a headline in the Chicago Daily Tribune directly confirmed that Truman had lost his reelection. 1947: Army says it was a weather balloon 1994: Air Force says it was a Project Mogul balloon flight #4 Report on Project Mogul Synopsis of Balloon Research Findings by JAMES McANDREW, 1st Lt, USAFR THE ROSWELL INCIDENT The current investigation discovered that an experimental balloon project was being conducted at nearby Alamogordo Army Airfield (now Holloman AFB, NM) during the summer of 1947. An examination of unclassified technical and progress reports prepared by the balloon project revealed that a highly classified program, Project MOGUL was the ultimate reason for the balloon experiments. Project MOGUL was classified Top Secret and carried a priority level of lA. It is Project MOGUL that provides the ultimate explanation for the "Roswell Incident." https://muller.lbl.gov/teaching/physics10/Roswell/USMogulReport.html Mogul balloon records show there was no Project Mogul flight #4. Edited December 13, 2022 by skyeagle409 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 13, 2022 #63 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Trelane said: Who has debunked the other options? The Air Force debunked its own 47-year weather balloon cover story when it admitted in its 1994 Roswell Report that it wasn't a weather balloon after all. The Air Force said that a Project Mogul balloon flight #4 is what was recovered, but Project Mogul balloon records of A. P. Crary show that there were no such thing as Project Mogul balloon flight #4, which effectively debunks the Air Force's revised Project Mogul balloon flight #4 explanation. The Air Force debunked its own alien body story In its 1997 Roswell Report when the Air Force said that alien bodies people saw in 1947 were test dummies and accident victims of the 1950s. We also add Lt. Col. (Ret.) Raymond A. Madson, Project Officer, Project High Dive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Force News Special Report The Roswell Report: Case Closed The conclusions are Air Force activities which occurred over a period of many years have been consolidated and are now represented to have occurred in two or three days in July 1947. "Aliens" observed in the New Mexico desert were actually anthropomorphic test dummies that were carried aloft by U.S. Air Force high altitude balloons for scientific research. The "unusual" military activities in the New Mexico desert were high altitude research balloon launch and recovery operations. Reports of military units that always seemed to arrive shortly after the crash of a flying saucer to retrieve the saucer and "crew," were actually accurate descriptions of Air Force personnel engaged in anthropomorphic dummy recovery operations. Claims of "alien bodies" at the Roswell Army Air Field hospital were most likely a combination of two separate incidents: Executive Summary ) a 1956 KC-97 aircraft accident in which 11 Air Force members lost their lives; and, ) a 1959 manned balloon mishap in which two Air Force pilots were injured. https://www.af.mil/The-Roswell-Report/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dummies weren't classified, says retired colonel [The Associated Press] GRANTS — A retired Air Force officer says he worked with high tech crash test dummies in the 1950s, and that there's no way they'd be confused with aliens described in rumors arising from the Roswell Incident. Lt. Col. (Ret.) Raymond A. Madson said he isn't buying the latest Air Force explanation of what occurred in Roswell in July 1947. The Pentagon issued a report this week saying the Air Force believes crash test dummies used in the 1950s were mistaken for the rumored 1947 aliens and suggesting that UFO buffs just got their dates mixed up. Madson, 66, who now lives near Grants, said he was project officer for Project High Dive at Holloman Air Force Base for four years starting in the 1950s.He told the Grants newspaper, the Cibola County Beacon, that the Project High Dive dummies were used to test problems pilots might encounter with the ejection mechanisms for bailing out of new generation jet aircraft. Madson said he sent photographs of Project High Dive dummies to thePentagon for inclusion in the Air Force document issued this week,'The Roswell Report: Case Closed.'But he said the dummies do not match the descriptions of the very small, almost childlike beings purported to have been seen in 1947 near Roswell. 'They were testing these things (dummies) to try to protect grown men. They would never have used (dummies of) children for such experiments,' he said. Madson also served at Wright Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio, before coming to Holloman. His wife worked at Wright Patterson as a secretary in the base medical laboratory, as well, he said. Both of them heard serious talk about little green men who had been brought onto the base and studied secretly, he said. The subject of aliens never came up at Holloman, however, he said. 'I think it was a highly kept secret at that time,' he said. In contrast, there was nothing secret about his dummies, he said. 'The dummies were not covered up or hidden (when transported), and there was no security in the dummy drop phase of the experiments,'he said. And because the windblown dummies might end up falling just aboutanywhere, the Air Force even offered $25 rewards to local residents around Alamogordo to return the dummies to the base, he said. They were all stamped with labels identifying them as Air Force property,Madson said. http://www.ufomind.com/area51/list/1997/jul/a06-004.shtml Edited December 13, 2022 by skyeagle409 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 13, 2022 #64 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, skyeagle409 said: The Air Force debunked its own 47-year weather balloon cover story when it admitted in its 1994 Roswell Report that it wasn't a weather balloon after all. The Air Force said that a Project Mogul balloon flight #4 is what was recovered, but Project Mogul balloon records of A. P. Crary show that there were no such thing as Project Mogul balloon flight #4, which effectively debunks the Air Force's revised Project Mogul balloon flight #4 explanation. The Air Force debunked its own alien body story In its 1997 Roswell Report when the Air Force saids that alien bodies people saw in 1947 were test dummies and accident victims of the 1950s ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Air Force News Special Report The Roswell Report: Case Closed The conclusions are Air Force activities which occurred over a period of many years have been consolidated and are now represented to have occurred in two or three days in July 1947. "Aliens" observed in the New Mexico desert were actually anthropomorphic test dummies that were carried aloft by U.S. Air Force high altitude balloons for scientific research. The "unusual" military activities in the New Mexico desert were high altitude research balloon launch and recovery operations. Reports of military units that always seemed to arrive shortly after the crash of a flying saucer to retrieve the saucer and "crew," were actually accurate descriptions of Air Force personnel engaged in anthropomorphic dummy recovery operations. Claims of "alien bodies" at the Roswell Army Air Field hospital were most likely a combination of two separate incidents: Executive Summary ) a 1956 KC-97 aircraft accident in which 11 Air Force members lost their lives; and, ) a 1959 manned balloon mishap in which two Air Force pilots were injured. https://www.af.mil/The-Roswell-Report/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Should i take your smoke and mirrors side stepping and reposting your same lack of proof as admissions you have no proof alien craft crashed in 47? Post actual proof or admit you have none. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted December 13, 2022 #65 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) On 12/12/2022 at 2:30 PM, skyeagle409 said: There is much more and let's remember, all of the Air Force's cover stories for the Roswell incident have been debunked and let's not forget that it was the Air Force that added alien bodies in its 1997 Roswell Report. The military would not have issued a sensational report that it captured a flying saucer, which made its way into newspapers on July 8, 1947, which once again, is the same date that flying saucers were overflying Muroc AAF and Rogers Dry Lake in California. It added "alien bodies" as point of clarification in order to provide context of the explanations entailed in the report. That was a misrepresentation you made there. Did you read the report or only "control +F" the document for "alien bodies"? I highly encourage anyone to read the following document; https://media.defense.gov/2010/Oct/27/2001330219/-1/-1/0/AFD-101027-030.pdf Again, it's not aliens. It never was aliens. Right then, back to the bigfoot and Atlantis threads. Edited December 13, 2022 by Trelane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 13, 2022 #66 Share Posted December 13, 2022 45 minutes ago, the13bats said: Should i take your smoke and mirrors side stepping and reposting your same lack of proof as admissions you have no proof alien craft crashed in 47? Post actual proof or admit you have none. That is basically in line when I was told a weather balloon was involved in the Roswell Incident after I said no weather balloon was involved. However, that all changed when the Air Force itself admitted in its 1994 Roswell Report that no weather balloon was responsible for the Roswell Incident and the rest is history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 13, 2022 #67 Share Posted December 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, Trelane said: It added "alien bodies" as point of clarification in order to provide context of the explanations entailed in the report. That was a misrepresentation you made there. Did you read the report or only "control +F" the document for "alien bodies"? I highly encourage anyone to read the following document; https://media.defense.gov/2010/Oct/27/2001330219/-1/-1/0/AFD-101027-030.pdf Again, it's not aliens. It never was aliens. Right then, back to the bigfoot and Atlantis threads. Air Force News Special Report The Roswell Report: Case Closed The conclusions are Air Force activities which occurred over a period of many years have been consolidated and are now represented to have occurred in two or three days in July 1947. "Aliens" observed ....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 14, 2022 #68 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, skyeagle409 said: That is basically in line when I was told a weather balloon was involved in the Roswell Incident after I said no weather balloon was involved. However, that all changed when the Air Force itself admitted in its 1994 Roswell Report that no weather balloon was responsible for the Roswell Incident and the rest is history. You are too far down your own rabbit hole of credulous delusions the only lines here are yours you still have to produce proof of an alien craft crash. I will ignore you until you post your proof if you have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 14, 2022 #69 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, skyeagle409 said: Air Force News Special Report The Roswell Report: Case Closed The conclusions are Air Force activities which occurred over a period of many years have been consolidated and are now represented to have occurred in two or three days in July 1947. "Aliens" observed ....... Prove it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 14, 2022 #70 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, the13bats said: You are too far down your own rabbit hole of credulous delusions the only lines here are yours you still have to produce proof of an alien craft crash. I will ignore you until you post your proof if you have any. The proof is in the headlines according to Air Force commanding officers at Roswell AAF and Wright-Patterson AFB, who stated for the record they recovered ET bodies and their craft. Remember, it was the Air Force that added "alien bodies" to its 1997 Roswell Report, so the question is, why did the Air Force add 'alien bodies' to its Roswell Report?! The Air Force hid its flying saucer recovery in plain sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyeagle409 Posted December 14, 2022 #71 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, the13bats said: Prove it! Its in the reports I have posted. In addition: Brig. Gen. Arthur E. Exon Former Commander, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio. Gen. Exon has been the highest ranking military officer to come out and say directly that Roswell was the crash of a spacecraft and that alien bodies were recovered. https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/104819/brigadier-general-arthur-ernest-exon/ What Roswell Was (RUCU) (C&S, p. 191, 194) "...They knew they had something new in their hands. The metal and material was unknown to anyone I talked to. Whatever they found, I never heard what the results were. A couple of guys thought it might be Russian, but the overall consensus was that the pieces were from space. Everyone from the White House on down knew that what we had found was not of this world within 24 hours of our finding it. ...Roswell was the recovery of a craft from space." The Crash Sites (R&S) "[It was] probably part of the same accident, but [there were] two distinct sites. One assuming that the thing, as I understand it, as I remember flying the area later, that the damage to the vehicle seemed to be coming from the southeast to the northwest, but it could have been going in the opposite direction, but it doesn't seem likely. So the farther northwest pieces found on the ranch, those pieces were mostly metal. "...I remember auto tracks leading to the pivotal sites and obvious gouges in the terrain." (C&S, p. 194) "[It was] probably part of the same accident, but [there were] two distinct sites. ...[At] the northernmost [site], pieces found on the ranch, those pieces were mostly metal." "Yes, I have. In fact, I know people that were involved in photographing some of the residue from the New Mexico affair near Roswell. There was another location where....apparently the main body of the spacecraft was...where they did say there were bodies." Bodies (Sandow) (C&S, p. 194) [Exon spontaneously bringing up Roswell crash after being asked about rumors of little bodies at Wright-Patterson] "Yes, I have. In fact, I know people that were involved in photographing some of the residue from the New Mexico affair near Roswell." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AF ROSWELL STUDY CONTRIBUTOR ADMITS "IT WAS ET!" Lt. Col. Raymond Madson, Project Officer, "Project High Dive" from 1956-1960 https://www.ufoexplorations.com/af-roswell-study-contributor-admits ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 'UFO Letters' Of Senator Barry Goldwater Barry Goldwater United States Senate Washington, D.C.[postcode] March 28, 1975 Mr. Schlomo Arnon U.C.D.A. Experimental College 308 Westwood Plaza Los Angeles, California 90024 Dear Mr. Arnon: The subject of UFOs is one that has interested me for some long time. About ten or twelve years ago I made an effort to find out what was in the building at Wright Patterson Air Force Base where the information is stored that has been collected by the Air Force, and I was understandably denied this request. It is still classified above Top Secret. I have, however, heard that there is a plan under way to release some, if not all, of this material in the near future. I'm just as anxious to see this material as you are, and I hope we will not have to wait too much longer. Sincerely [Signature] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited December 14, 2022 by skyeagle409 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom309 Posted December 14, 2022 #72 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) Great stuff Sky - and, at the time, I don't blame the government for feeling they had to cover this event up at all costs. Why risk a monster of a panic? But it has been over 75 years now, time to come clean it seems. And here's yet another piece of evidence - a little current day AI software applied to the Ramey memo as he hunched down on the floor of his office with the bogus weather balloon material sprawled out in front of him: Edit: oops - too small, I'll see if I can find a bigger photo. The one I saw yesterday I could read it. Edited December 14, 2022 by Phantom309 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted December 14, 2022 #73 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Phantom309 said: Great stuff Sky - and, at the time, I don't blame the government for feeling they had to cover this event up at all costs. Why risk a monster of a panic? But it has been over 75 years now, time to come clean it seems. And here's yet another piece of evidence - a little current day AI software applied to the Ramey memo as he hunched down on the floor of his office with the bogus weather balloon material sprawled out in front of him: This was from about 16 or so years ago so old "AI" at best. It was a predictive program and not nearly 100% accurate. But come on, really??? A flag officer is going to be a press junket with some highly classified document just open in his hand like a Denny's menu? This is ridiculous. You and Sky have fun with your conspiracy chasing rubbish. Edited December 14, 2022 by Trelane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 14, 2022 #74 Share Posted December 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: The proof is in the headlines according to Air Force commanding officers at Roswell AAF and Wright-Patterson AFB, who stated for the record they recovered ET bodies and their craft. Remember, it was the Air Force that added "alien bodies" to its 1997 Roswell Report, so the question is, why did the Air Force add 'alien bodies' to its Roswell Report?! The Air Force hid its flying saucer recovery in plain sight. No, that isnt proof, proof is show us the alien craft show us the aliens not silly newspaper tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted December 14, 2022 #75 Share Posted December 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said: Its in the reports I have posted. In addition: Brig. Gen. Arthur E. Exon Gen. Exon has been the highest ranking military officer to come out and say directly that Roswell was the crash of a spacecraft and that alien bodies were recovered. https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/104819/brigadier-general-arthur-ernest-exon/ What Roswell Was (RUCU) (C&S, p. 191, 194) "...They knew they had something new in their hands. The metal and material was unknown to anyone I talked to. Whatever they found, I never heard what the results were. A couple of guys thought it might be Russian, but the overall consensus was that the pieces were from space. Everyone from the White House on down knew that what we had found was not of this world within 24 hours of our finding it. ...Roswell was the recovery of a craft from space." The Crash Sites (R&S) "[It was] probably part of the same accident, but [there were] two distinct sites. One assuming that the thing, as I understand it, as I remember flying the area later, that the damage to the vehicle seemed to be coming from the southeast to the northwest, but it could have been going in the opposite direction, but it doesn't seem likely. So the farther northwest pieces found on the ranch, those pieces were mostly metal. "...I remember auto tracks leading to the pivotal sites and obvious gouges in the terrain." (C&S, p. 194) "[It was] probably part of the same accident, but [there were] two distinct sites. ...[At] the northernmost [site], pieces found on the ranch, those pieces were mostly metal." "Yes, I have. In fact, I know people that were involved in photographing some of the residue from the New Mexico affair near Roswell. There was another location where....apparently the main body of the spacecraft was...where they did say there were bodies." Bodies (Sandow) (C&S, p. 194) [Exon spontaneously bringing up Roswell crash after being asked about rumors of little bodies at Wright-Patterson] "Yes, I have. In fact, I know people that were involved in photographing some of the residue from the New Mexico affair near Roswell." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AF ROSWELL STUDY CONTRIBUTOR ADMITS "IT WAS ET!" Lt. Col. Raymond Madson, Project Officer, "Project High Dive" from 1956-1960 https://www.ufoexplorations.com/af-roswell-study-contributor-admits ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 'UFO Letters' Of Senator Barry Goldwater Barry Goldwater United States Senate Washington, D.C.[postcode] March 28, 1975 Mr. Schlomo Arnon U.C.D.A. Experimental College 308 Westwood Plaza Los Angeles, California 90024 Dear Mr. Arnon: The subject of UFOs is one that has interested me for some long time. About ten or twelve years ago I made an effort to find out what was in the building at Wright Patterson Air Force Base where the information is stored that has been collected by the Air Force, and I was understandably denied this request. It is still classified above Top Secret. I have, however, heard that there is a plan under way to release some, if not all, of this material in the near future. I'm just as anxious to see this material as you are, and I hope we will not have to wait too much longer. Sincerely [Signature] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To bad you arent as good at posting proof as you are at cut and pasting tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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