Former CIA 'Agent Kewper' Area 51 deathbed confession resurfaces

[skyeagle409]

6 minutes ago, the13bats said:

To bad you arent as good at posting proof as you are at cut and pasting tripe.

It's all  there in black and white that the Roswell incident involved the recovery of alien bodies and their craft. After all, the Air Force would not have concocted false cover stories for the alien bodies and flying saucer that were recovered as noted in the Roswell newspaper press release that headlined the capture of a flying saucer the Army authorized on July 8, 1947

Edited December 14, 2022 by skyeagle409

[Phantom309]

Here's the full Ramey memo analysis. Basically, it sure isn't a memo about how to handle a crashed weather balloon.

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228706129_A_Message_in_a_Bottle_Confounds_in_Deciphering_the_Ramey_Memo_from_the_Roswell_UFO_Case

[the13bats]

57 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

It's all  there in black and white that the Roswell incident involved the recovery of alien bodies and their craft. After all, the Air Force would not have concocted false cover stories for the alien bodies and flying saucer that were recovered as noted in the Roswell newspaper press release that headlined the capture of a flying saucer the Army authorized on July 8, 1947

Yet you cant prove it, post pictures as starters.

[the13bats]

58 minutes ago, Phantom309 said:

Here's the full Ramey memo analysis. Basically, it sure isn't a memo about how to handle a crashed weather balloon.

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228706129_A_Message_in_a_Bottle_Confounds_in_Deciphering_the_Ramey_Memo_from_the_Roswell_UFO_Case

Nor is it about alien craft.

[skyeagle409]

3 hours ago, the13bats said:

Yet you cant prove it, post pictures as starters.

I already know the rest of the story. Go back and read the documentation I have been posting and understand why high-ranking military and intelligence officials have stated for the record that these objects are  those of exterrestrials.

[skyeagle409]

3 hours ago, the13bats said:

Nor is it about alien craft.

Apparently, it is here.

[astrobeing]

23 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

No, I mean craft. Navy pilots had better things to do then chasing birds that were not captured on radar.

Really? They seemed to be having fun doing it on the video. Too bad they didn't realize that these "craft" were only two meters wide and were pulsing at the same speed that geese would flap their wings.

[the13bats]

16 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

I already know the rest of the story. Go back and read the documentation I have been posting and understand why high-ranking military and intelligence officials have stated for the record that these objects are  those of exterrestrials.

Stop posting ridiculous documents and cut to the chase post pictures of the craft and the aliens or give up because you have nothing.

[skyeagle409]

1 hour ago, the13bats said:

Stop posting ridiculous documents and cut to the chase post pictures of the craft and the aliens or give up because you have nothing.

The facts and documents I have posted speak for themselves.

[skyeagle409]

3 hours ago, astrobeing said:

Really? They seemed to be having fun doing it on the video. Too bad they didn't realize that these "craft" were only two meters wide and were pulsing at the same speed that geese would flap their wings.

That is not a lockon of a bird. As a pilot with 53 years experience, I know better, especially when knowing that birds can present a hazard to aircraft and that the Navy pilots would not be chasing birds in an aircraft that cost thousands of dollars per hour to operate and where a bird strike can cause hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars in damages or loss of aircraft and crew. 

US Airways Flight 1549 was a regularly scheduled US Airways flight from New York City (LaGuardia Airport), to Charlotte and Seattle, in the United States. On January 15, 2009, the Airbus A320 serving the flight struck a flock of birds shortly after take-off from LaGuardia, losing all engine power. 

 

  

 

Edited December 15, 2022 by skyeagle409

[skyeagle409]

On 12/13/2022 at 4:17 PM, the13bats said:

Prove it!

Ask the Air Force. After all, it was the Air Force's 1997 Roswell Report. Read the report here and remember, the Roswell Incident occurred in July 1947, not in the 1950s.

 

The Roswell Report: Case Closed

Claims of "alien bodies" at the Roswell Army Air Field hospital were most likely a combination of two separate incidents:

Executive Summary

1. ) a 1956 KC-97 aircraft accident in which 11 Air Force members lost their lives; and,

2. ) a 1959 manned balloon mishap in which two Air Force pilots were injured.

https://www.af.mil/The-Roswell-Report/

Edited December 15, 2022 by skyeagle409

[the13bats]

1 hour ago, skyeagle409 said:

Ask the Air Force. After all, it was the Air Force's 1997 Roswell Report. Read the report here and remember, the Roswell Incident occurred in July 1947, not in the 1950s.

 

The Roswell Report: Case Closed

Claims of "alien bodies" at the Roswell Army Air Field hospital were most likely a combination of two separate incidents:

Executive Summary

1. ) a 1956 KC-97 aircraft accident in which 11 Air Force members lost their lives; and,

2. ) a 1959 manned balloon mishap in which two Air Force pilots were injured.

https://www.af.mil/The-Roswell-Report/

Are you going to post pictures of the aliens and their craft or not?

[the13bats]

1 hour ago, skyeagle409 said:

The facts and documents I have posted speak for themselves.

No, they dont you know that you have zero proof so you keep posting bs documents, if you have pictures of aliens and their craft post it or move on you are humiliating yourself.

[skyeagle409]

5 hours ago, the13bats said:

No, they dont you know that you have zero proof so you keep posting bs documents, if you have pictures of aliens and their craft post it or move on you are humiliating yourself.

[skyeagle409]

6 hours ago, the13bats said:

No, they dont you know that you have zero proof so you keep posting bs documents, if you have pictures of aliens and their craft post it or move on you are humiliating yourself.

 

Hovering object that was scanned by radar and seen by ground watchers was caught on film by a climbing jet pilot. These unretouched 35 mm. gun - camera movie frames, released to TRUE by the Air Force, were taken at 30,000 feet, near Wright Field, at 11 a.m. on August 20, 1952. The object was hovering motionless in full view of witnesses on the ground before an Air Force jet was scrambled.

 

More recent object captured by the U. S. Navy. Note the similarities and understand that one photo was taken by a jet at 30,000 feet while the other was taken at sea level.

Edited December 15, 2022 by skyeagle409

[skyeagle409]

 

[Dejarma]

7 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

Note the similarities

what similarities? well they're both black & unclear .. so you're right i guess

[astrobeing]

16 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

The facts and documents I have posted speak for themselves.

That's why, after all these decades, they've led to nothing.

[astrobeing]

16 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

That is not a lockon of a bird. As a pilot with 53 years experience, I know better, especially when knowing that birds can present a hazard to aircraft and that the Navy pilots would not be chasing birds in an aircraft that cost thousands of dollars per hour to operate and where a bird strike can cause hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars in damages or loss of aircraft and crew.

They weren't chasing birds. The camera was pointed down and the geese were thousands of feet below the aircraft. That's why in the video we see the water behind them.

You obviously know very little about this case.

[skyeagle409]

6 hours ago, Dejarma said:

what similarities? well they're both black & unclear .. so you're right i guess

Do you agree that both objects are round? They are not weather balloons and the object over Wright Field was hovering around 30,000 feet. In other words, unaffected by high winds at that altitude. The other object was in fact, a craft that suddenly disappeared beneath the waves. I can remember a video of a similar object over Mexico as it flew into view from behind a cloud and hovered for a short period of time before reversing course.

[Hyperionxvii]

As soon was we can get some video evidence taken by the type of high definition camera carried around 24/7 in the pocket of about 99% of the 8 billion people on the planet, I guess we'll never know. Since for some reason, all the UFO video ever recorded until today was taken with a 1980s VHS camcorder with a dirty lens by a drunk guy during a 9.1 scale earthquake. 

[skyeagle409]

5 hours ago, astrobeing said:

That's why, after all these decades, they've led to nothing.

Actually, I have been aware that the military and intelligence service confirmed the UFOs in question are, in the Air Force's own words: "Interplanetary Spaceships." Intelligence services say: "Extraterrestrial. I can confirmed the objects are not ours (mankind) and that a former base of mine has been involved in investigations where saucers disabled our Minuteman missiles and I have been made aware that our space surveillance assets have been tracking the objects as they enter Earth's atmosphere as was the case that was made public regarding the 1986 DSP satellite that was buzzed by a UFO before the object curved back into space. I spoke with one of the engineers who helped developed that satellite and he confirmed to me personally when and how his DSP satellite first detected and tracked the UFO.

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May 5, 1984; USDSP Satellite detects "Fast Walker"

Article by Dave Kauble

(Based on the Discovery Channel Segment, "Fast Walker")

"MAY 5, 1984, an alert was triggered at the North America Air Defense Command. Moving at 22,000 miles per hour, it was heading toward Earth and had been determined to NOT be incoming ballistic missiles, or any other type of conventionally explainable object. Once tracked, it was code-named "Fast Walker".

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UFO encounters with UFOs (extraterrestrials) are quite common. Problem is, you just don't hear about these incidents in the newspapers because they are then classified and withheld from the public until declassified such as in the following log. Malmstrom AFB was one of the missile bases that was affected by UFO, which is  where my former base came into the picture because we were the depot for the Minuteman missile. Radar lost track of one object after it climbed above 200,000 feet.

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Malmstrom AFB, Montana

NORAD Region Senior Director's Log:

NORAD radar detected unknowns heading south-southwest at 1200 feet. Once again, two F-106s were scrambled. SAT teams at areas K-1, K-3, L-1, L-4, and L-6 reported visual sightings of objects at low altitudes. The SAT teams reported that, when the jets approached, the UFOs would turn off their lights and become invisible. Then, when the jets had gone, the UFOs would turn their lights back on. At 9:15 P.M., teams in four different locations could see both the F-106s and the UFOs. Again, at 9:35, area L-5 reported that the unknown rose rapidly until it could not be distinguished from the stars.

8 NOV 75 (0635Z) - A security camper team at K-4 reported UFO with white lights, one red light 50 yards behind white light. Personnel at K-1 seeing same object.

8 NOV 75 (0645Z) - Height personnel picked up objects 10 - 13,000 feet, Track J330, EKLB 0648, 18 knots, 9,500 feet. Objects as many as seven, as few as two A/C.

8 NOV 75 (0745Z) - Conversation about the UFOs; Advised to go ahead and scramble; but be sure and brief pilots, FAA. Go easy and the pilots will not descend below 12,000 ft.

8 NOV 75 (0753Z) - J330 unknown 0753. Stationary/seven knots/12,000. One (varies to seven) object. None, no possibility, EKLB 3746, two F-106, GTF, SCR 0754. NCOC notified.

8 NOV 75 (0820Z) - Lost radar contact, fighters broken off at 0825, looking in area of J331 (another height finder contact).

8 NOV 75 (0850Z) - Directed ftrs to RTB (return to base).

8 NOV 75 (0905Z) - From SAC CP: L-sites had fighters and objects; fighters did not get down to objects.

8 NOV 75 (0915Z) - From SAC CP: From four different points: Observed objects and fighters; when fighters arrived in area, the lights went out; when fighters departed, the lights came back on; to NCOC.

8 NOV 75 (00953Z) - From SAC CP: L-5 reported object increased in speed - high velocity, raised in altitude and now cannot tell object from stars. To NCOC.

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Aliens Are Monitoring Our Nukes, Worry Ex-Air Force Officers
September 23, 2010, Fox News

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2010/09/...-officers.html

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And this:

[quote]

INTRODUCTORY SPACE SCIENCE - VOLUME II

CHAPTER XXXIII

UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS

DEPARTMENT OF PHYSICS - USAF

UNITED STATES AIR FORCE ACADEMY

"Although all Soviet anti-aircraft batteries on the Islands were in action, no hits were made. The UFO's were luminous and moved very fast. We too have fired on UFO's. About ten o'clock one morning, a radar site near a fighter base picked up a UFO doing 700 mph. The UFO then slowed to 100 mph, and two F-86's were scrambled to intercept. Eventually one F-86 closed on the UFO at about 3,000 feet altitude. The UFO began to accelerate away but the pilot still managed to get within 500 yards of the target for a short period of time. It was definitely saucer-shaped."

" As the pilot pushed the F-86 at top speed, the UFO began to pull away. When the range reached 1,000 yards, the pilot armed his guns and fired in an attempt to down the saucer. He failed, and the UFO pulled away rapidly, vanishing in the distance."

 

Now, think about why the Air Force added "Alien bodies" to its 1997 Roswell Report." There is a reason why it did so.

Edited December 15, 2022 by skyeagle409

[skyeagle409]

7 minutes ago, Hyperionxvii said:

As soon was we can get some video evidence taken by the type of high definition camera carried around 24/7 in the pocket of about 99% of the 8 billion people on the planet, I guess we'll never know. Since for some reason, all the UFO video ever recorded until today was taken with a 1980s VHS camcorder with a dirty lens by a drunk guy during a 9.1 scale earthquake. 

 

[skyeagle409]

5 hours ago, astrobeing said:

They weren't chasing birds. The camera was pointed down and the geese were thousands of feet below the aircraft. That's why in the video we see the water behind them.

You obviously know very little about this case.

That is not what was depicted on the screen and the jets would not have been scrambled to chase birds and I might add the radar contacts were not indicative of birds.

[Dejarma]

2 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

The other object was in fact, a craft that suddenly disappeared beneath the waves

fact is it? oh well, i'll leave you to it- have fun