US Air Force unveils new B-21 Raider nuclear stealth bomber

[+Hammerclaw]

4 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Hell yes he would, it’s very possible the basis for this technology was brought back through the Stargate!

Yeah, it is rather reminiscent of the F-302.

[+Hammerclaw]

On 12/3/2022 at 2:10 PM, khol said:

Billions and billions of dollars spent to protect us from ourselves...how sad that really is

cool aircraft tho...

Si vis pacem para bellum.

[+Hammerclaw]

You'd have to think the Space Force is working on their own surface to orbit craft.

Edited December 26, 2022 by Hammerclaw

[Raptor Witness]

On 12/3/2022 at 2:49 PM, Trelane said:

“The B-21 Raider is a testament to America’s enduring advantages in ingenuity and innovation. And it’s proof of the Department’s long-term commitment to building advanced capabilities that will fortify America’s ability to deter aggression, today and into the future. Now, strengthening and sustaining U.S. deterrence is at the heart of our National Defense Strategy,” said Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III."

Unfortunately, there is no “deterrent” for human nature, which is why Russia invaded Ukraine, and has aligned militarily with Iran.

The stage is now set for an invasion of the Middle East by a horde of starving northern soldiers, who could care less about Europe. The resources they want and need to control, are to their south.

This bomber changes nothing about the course of history. The United States won’t be able to afford these new bombers anyway, so these are the musings of foolish madness.

The future does not belong to U.S., our military, Europe, Russia, or China.

The future belongs to the target of what was called the “Final Solution” during the last global conflict.

The spark for this northern invasion will likely be a western attack of Iran, from the air, by U.S.. What precipitates this is unclear, but I would guess a dirty bomb or a pair of them in two key U.S. cities.

The order to take peace from the Earth, isn’t subject to western deterrence. That order comes from a new kind of Deterrence. Put simply, the proverbial “Times of the Gentiles,” are over.

This bomber is a complete waste of useful resources. Save your money for mitigating the incoming plagues, which are like “a sword that reaches to the sun.”

[Trelane]

2 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

Unfortunately, there is no “deterrent” for human nature, which is why Russia invaded Ukraine, and has aligned militarily with Iran.

The stage is now set for an invasion of the Middle East by a horde of starving northern soldiers, who could care less about Europe. The resources they want and need to control, are to their south.

This bomber changes nothing about the course of history. The United States won’t be able to afford these new bombers anyway, so these are the musings of foolish madness.

The future does not belong to U.S., our military, Europe, Russia, or China.

The future belongs to the target of what was called the “Final Solution” during the last global conflict.

The spark for this northern invasion will likely be a western attack of Iran, from the air, by U.S.. What precipitates this is unclear, but I would guess a dirty bomb or a pair of them in two key U.S. cities.

The order to take peace from the Earth, isn’t subject to western deterrence. That order comes from a new kind of Deterrence. Put simply, the proverbial “Times of the Gentiles,” are over.

This bomber is a complete waste of useful resources. Save your money for mitigating the incoming plagues, which are like “a sword that reaches to the sun.”

1)  You do not have a clue about anything you're commenting on here. If your first statement were remotely true, then Russia would've been invading select neighboring countries at a much larger and rapid pace over the last 20 years to annex old Soviet satellite countries. Why have they not done this? oh yeah that's right, deterrence.

2) Again, there is absolutely zero merit to this statement. No corresponding intelligence, nothing outside of your warped perception of what you think might (or maybe should?) happen. It is a ridiculous statement and I'll leave that there.

3) Much like its predecessor, the Raider will continue to maintain a solid lock of deterrence against nations who would normally be working to create conflict and war in their own respective theaters. Additionally, it provides yet another layer of protection for the US.

4) I'll wrap up this response by saying that you are deluded. Very deluded from what I've read from all of your posts. You ramble on about religious manifestations of reality and babble on in some idealistic rants. Your concepts are feeble minded and misguided in a manner of a child who has never had to learn and understand the macro level of technological, political, and military impacts on the global interconnectivity in the 21st century.

 

I recommend you go back to your "disaster porn" posts about the end of times because of hurricanes and such. I look forward to the next "apocalypse" that's supposed to end the evil western society. I suppose at some point you might be right.

[Trelane]

4 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

You'd have to think the Space Force is working on their own surface to orbit craft.

You're getting warmer.

[Raptor Witness]

31 minutes ago, Trelane said:

You ramble on about religious manifestations of reality and babble on in some idealistic rants. Your concepts are feeble minded and misguided in a manner of a child who has never had to learn and understand the macro level of technological, political, and military impacts on the global interconnectivity in the 21st century.

I see the stage being set for a different kind of Hero. One who doesn’t care about U.S., or anything we can or hope to achieve.

If my track record disturbs you, I imagine you’re worried about losing control. You should be …

As for your “macro” view of our dominance, no species can be in control, which rises to destroy all that is given it, without a reversal of that creature’s fortunes.

Build your new bombers and your “smarter bombs,” but they will be the last. 

We have reached the end of our control. We don’t get to be the Hero at this point of the story. That job is already taken by a Better Version of Ourselves, who requires only a childlike view of why we need help.

[Trelane]

1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said:

I see the stage being set for a different kind of Hero. One who doesn’t care about U.S., or anything we can or hope to achieve.

If my track record disturbs you, I imagine you’re worried about losing control. You should be …

As for your “macro” view of our dominance, no species can be in control, which rises to destroy all that is given it, without a reversal of that creature’s fortunes.

Build your new bombers and your “smarter bombs,” but they will be the last. 

We have reached the end of our control. We don’t get to be the Hero at this point of the story. That job is already taken by a Better Version of Ourselves, who requires only a childlike view of why we need help.

Sounds good. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

7 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

Yeah, it is rather reminiscent of the F-302.

it’s more than a little reminiscent that most would ever pick up, I sincerely wonder what influenced the similarities in designs between the two Aircraft.

What do you think created the similarities?

It’s obvious your a big Stargate fan, I am also however you knowledge surpasses mine. But, I do have copies of the movies, the complete Stargate and Stargate Atlantis series.

I can relate something very similar from the Original Star Trek series as far as similar designs that eventually became reality. You remember the original Star Trek communicators right, well when I saw the first flip open cells phones it was apparent that the original Star Trek design may have influenced their design!

7 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

 

[+Hammerclaw]

44 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

it’s more than a little reminiscent that most would ever pick up, I sincerely wonder what influenced the similarities in designs between the two Aircraft.

What do you think created the similarities?

It’s obvious your a big Stargate fan, I am also however you knowledge surpasses mine. But, I do have copies of the movies, the complete Stargate and Stargate Atlantis series.

I can relate something very similar from the Original Star Trek series as far as similar designs that eventually became reality. You remember the original Star Trek communicators right, well when I saw the first flip open cells phones it was apparent that the original Star Trek design may have influenced their design!

 

Yeah, that was pie in the sky, back then. Who'd have thought we'd see something like it only better and cheap, too in our lifetime? No, I'm not a big Stargate fan just binged watched each series out of boredom. Stargate Atlantis is my favorite; SG 1 is OK until Richard Dean Anderson started looking utterly bored and only going through the motions to get each shoot done. Stargate Universe was a hot mess with some great actors mostly crippled by lousy stories and poor creative decisions. Whoever thought gritty realism and two main protagonists so thoroughly unlikable were good ideas in the franchise were complete idiots. Still, the second season's story arc was interesting but was too little, too late. They drove two thirds of the audience away the first season.

Edited December 27, 2022 by Hammerclaw

[+Hammerclaw]

Damn, it's looks like it's ready for Colonel O'Neill and Teal'c to board.

Edited December 27, 2022 by Hammerclaw

[Grim Reaper 6]

10 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Yeah, that was pie in the sky, back then. Who'd have thought we'd see something like it only better and cheap, too in our lifetime? No, I'm not a big Stargate fan just binged watched each series out of boredom. Stargate Atlantis is my favorite; SG 1 is OK until Richard Dean Anderson started looking utterly bored and only going through the motions to get each shoot done. Stargate Universe was a hot mess with some great actors mostly crippled by lousy stories and poor creative decisions. Whoever thought gritty realism and two main protagonists so thoroughly unlikable were good ideas in the franchise were complete idiots. Still, the second season's story arc was interesting but was too little, too late. They drove two thirds of the audience away the first season.

Thanks for your reply, but due to commitments overseas and the fact I have been living in Korea Since 2014 my knowledge of the subject ends with Stargate Atlantis I honestly didn’t know the other series you mentioned even existed.

Beyond Star Gate Atlantis what would you recommend?

[Grim Reaper 6]

3 hours ago, Trelane said:

You're getting warmer.

That’s for certain!

[+Hammerclaw]

5 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Thanks for your reply, but due to commitments overseas and the fact I have been living in Korea Since 2014 my knowledge of the subject ends with Stargate Atlantis I honestly didn’t know the other series you mentioned even existed.

Beyond Star Gate Atlantis what would you recommend?

The other series, SG Universe is worth watching, but it's not a live action comic book like the other series. It's kind like what Frank Miller did to Batman with his Dark Knight version. Realistic like Battlestar Galactica. SG1 I highly recommend. You can watch all the series free on PLEX, no subscription required.

Edited December 27, 2022 by Hammerclaw

[Grim Reaper 6]

24 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

The other series, SG Universe is worth watching, but it's not a live action comic book like the other series. It's kind like what Frank Miller did to Batman with his Dark Knight version. Realistic like Battlestar Galactica. SG1 I highly recommend. You can watch all the series free on PLEX, no subscription required.

Thanks for the information I will pick up SG Universe for my personal collection. As far as Battlestar Galactica is concerned I all ready have the entire series in my collection. I watch that series when it originally came out, and really enjoyed it so it was a must fir my collection. What did you mean by SG1? 

I have all the movies leading up to and the entire original series of Stargate SG1 through Stargate Atlantis already in my collection I though I mentioned that or did you mean a different SG1?

Thanks again for the recommendations and the reply!

[+Hammerclaw]

1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Thanks for the information I will pick up SG Universe for my personal collection. As far as Battlestar Galactica is concerned I all ready have the entire series in my collection. I watch that series when it originally came out, and really enjoyed it so it was a must fir my collection. What did you mean by SG1? 

I have all the movies leading up to and the entire original series of Stargate SG1 through Stargate Atlantis already in my collection I though I mentioned that or did you mean a different SG1?

Thanks again for the recommendations and the reply!

It's Pluto TV, not Plex. No, same SG1. I'd recommend the series Farscape and The Expanse if you haven't watched them. The Expanse is on Amazon Plus which requires a subscription.

[Tatetopa]

On 12/3/2022 at 11:10 AM, khol said:

Billions and billions of dollars spent to protect us from ourselves...how sad that really is

cool aircraft tho...

Well maybe posters on the UFO threads may not all be crackpots.  Maybe it is not designed to encounter terrestrial adversaries.  Maybe it has capabilities beyond delivering a nuclear package.

[Grim Reaper 6]

11 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

Si vis pacem para bellum.

Dam it stop cursing there are Children on this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tatetopa]

On 12/3/2022 at 7:55 AM, and-then said:

It sounds like a wonderful achievement in technology but these days it's harder to take pride in anything our government is involved in.

Governments are transitory.  We have been a republic and a nation for 200 years, through 45 administrations.  The United States is a hella lot more than what goes on in DC.  Just to get personal about it, as a small example, the food ways in your part of the country are a national treasure.  The land, the people, the accomplishments of our first  generation of brilliant founding thinkers, the strength and resourcefulness of common men and leaders is a lot to be proud of.

Even this as a weapon of war will lead to a plethora of technological innovations that will have peaceful uses.

[+Hammerclaw]

31 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Dam it stop cursing there are Children on this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah, the mamasans always said I was dinky dow.

[Grim Reaper 6]

13 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Ah, the mamasans always said I was dinky dow.

[+Hammerclaw]

1 minute ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Elementis Regamus Proelium? Day-yam! Now THATS some fancy cussin'!

[Grim Reaper 6]

7 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Elementis Regamus Proelium? Day-yam! Now THATS some fancy cussin'!

Before you use Dinky Dow again you may want to checkout what it translates into in Vietnamese!

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 hour ago, Tatetopa said:

Well maybe posters on the UFO threads may not all be crackpots.  Maybe it is not designed to encounter terrestrial adversaries.  Maybe it has capabilities beyond delivering a nuclear package.

I suspect you may have hit the nail on the head, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if it had the ability to fight within and also outside our atmosphere just a guess though!

[Grim Reaper 6]

On 12/4/2022 at 4:10 AM, khol said:

Billions and billions of dollars spent to protect us from ourselves...how sad that really is

cool aircraft tho...

Well, it may not actually be sad at all my friend,  it entirely possible that isn’t its only capability. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it had the ability to carry out missions within and also outside our atmosphere (  possibly from Space ) because the B2 Bomber was able to as stated below!

Now, could you think of what it could be used for if it also has the capability to enter space and operate in space?

Now, I am only pontificating here because there has been no information released that would corroborate such a claim and I am also not trying to create any conspiracy theories either, however the B2 Bomber is capable of operating even being refueled in Space.

Here are some additional attributes of this Aircraft of the B-21 and also comparisons with the Capabilities with the B2 Bomber. 

1. There is no set definition of what a “sixth-generation” combat aircraft is, though. Fifth generation has come to be regarded as aircraft possessing stealth characteristics and sensor fusion to achieve unprecedented situational awareness of the battle space. Some attributes of “sixth generation” may be the ability to be “optionally manned”—a feature the B-21 is supposed to have—even better sensors, sharply improved stealth, and potentially, capability to use directed-energy weapons such as lasers or high-powered microwave beams. https://www.airandspaceforces.com/much-about-the-air-forces-new-b-21-bomber-remains-a-secret-following-reveal/

2.  Northrop’s RQ-4 Global Hawk family of unmanned, high-altitude intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance aircraft are gradually being phased out of USAF service, but there is strong evidence they are being superseded by another Northrop Grumman stealth platform called the RQ-180, said to bear a strong resemblance to the B-21. Secret RQ-180 Stealthy Unmanned Spy Plane Spotted Over Area 51: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42949/secret-rq-180-stealth-drone-photographed-over-area-5

3.  The Kármán line is set at what NOAA calls “an imaginary boundary” that's 62 miles up, or roughly a hundred kilometers above sea level. This is where earth’s atmosphere ends and space begins. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/where-is-the-edge-of-space-and-what-is-the-karman-line

4.  The B2 Bomber is capable of reaching and operating at an altitude of up to 50,000 feet (15,000 m); it has an unrefueled range of more than 6,000 nautical miles (6,900 mi; 11,000 km) and can fly more than 10,000 nautical miles (12,000 mi; 19,000 km) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-2_Spirit

@Tatetopa thought you may be interested in the information above also.