Trump calls for rescinding the Constitution

[+Desertrat56]

Just now, spartan max2 said:

Trump's still popular with Republicans, according to polling (as much use as that is now in days). 

With how much different midterm candidates tried to get his endorsement during the republican primary, I would say he is the frontrunner ATM. 

I would be happy to be surprised in 2024 if he dosen't win or if he gets some real competition.

I think some who got his endorsement did not win their mid term election.   So it doesn't matter what the party thinks, the voters disagree.  

 

[Golden Duck]

38 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Did I say democrats?

You mean left side of Congress?

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

1 hour ago, Desertrat56 said:

Who is also calling to abandon the constitution?   What democrats are  asking to abolish  the 1st amendment, free speech, fredom of religion?

And I don't thing anyone will ever get the 2nd amendment abolished.  It is just a screaming point any time someone famous or a mass shooting occurs.    

This lot for one - https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/our-constitution-has-failed-its-time-for-a-new-one/

[Golden Duck]

12 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

This lot for one - https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/our-constitution-has-failed-its-time-for-a-new-one/

No True Republican would weaponise The Constitution against the FITH Lord Tronald.

[+Desertrat56]

19 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

This lot for one - https://www.acslaw.org/expertforum/our-constitution-has-failed-its-time-for-a-new-one/

I didn't see anything coherent about that, and they don't claim to be democrats or communists.   So there is a group, there are all kinds of groups, even one trying to get Convention of States trying to get power away from the feds and back to the states.  The problem with that one is that it will cause the feds  to pull their funding for education, healthcare, roades, etc.   It is not thought through.   And the constitution has not failed us, our elected representatives have failed us.

[the13bats]

1 hour ago, Desertrat56 said:

The constitution has not failed us, our elected representatives have failed us.

Thats correct and its those failures who blame anyone and anything for their fails. Im not at all surprized that the ones whose go to is bullying threats want to burn the constitution.

[el midgetron]

But when Democrats want to terminate rules in the Constitution it’s to “save Democracy”……
 

Durbin, Schatz, Feinstein, Gillibrand Introduce Constitutional Amendment To End Undemocratic Electoral College

https://www.durbin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/durbin-schatz-feinstein-gillibrand-introduce-constitutional-amendment-to-end-undemocratic-electoral-college

House Democrats revive push to abolish Electoral College

https://www.wkrn.com/washington/washington-dc/house-democrats-revive-push-to-abolish-electoral-college/

A majority of Democratic voters, 60 percent, said they supported abolishing the Electoral College and allowing whoever receives the most votes nationwide to become president. 

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/435816-poll-republicans-support-electoral-college-while-democrats-want/

A new survey from Rasmussen Reports and the Heartland Institute found that 57% of Democrats believe the Constitution is “rooted in racism,” another 64% think it’s “sexist,” and 49% — statistically half — feel it should be “mostly or completely rewritten.”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jul/19/democrats-want-constitution-completely-rewritten/

Nation Writer Labels the Constitution ‘Trash’

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/nation-writer-labels-the-constitution-trash/

[Occupational Hubris]

On 12/4/2022 at 11:13 AM, and-then said:

Nearly 1000 Americans signed sworn affidavits claiming voting irregularities in their polling stations.  That is unprecedented.  There is no need to go back and  re-litigate this conflict because opinions are hardened and it will accomplish nothing.  That is music to the ears of the Left because they seem to believe that shouting down their opposition is a valid way to govern.  Trump and a great many of his supporters are simply not going to ever accept what they know was done to them.  There is no way to compel that.  That doesn't mean the PTB in DC won't continue beating the drum to isolate and alienate half the voters.  They most certainly will.  

This article is a perfect example of how info war is waged.  If a person saw the headline and didn't read the whole piece, they'd come away assuming Trump said he wanted to rescind the Constitution.  He said no such thing.  The context is ignored so a sensationalistic talking point can be advanced.  What he said was the rule of order in the Constitution is being attacked by fraudulent elections and because there is no mechanism in our Constitution to correct who illegally rose to power in such a way, the only remedy would have to come in a way that the Constitution does not plan for or envision.  In THAT very narrow sense, yes he is saying justice would require taking steps not planned for by our Founders because they assumed the people would be able to agree and honor elections.

Articles like this just reinforce the knowledge that our system has been taken down and the party/movement that has seized power will not peacefully surrender it again.  Those who are pleased with this outcome are going to find that it is unsustainable and while their neighbors probably won't go into the streets and loot and set fires, they WILL begin to so disrespect the central government that the system will ultimately fall apart.  Our justice system cannot exist outside voluntary compliance.  Once the government needs to be able to physically restrain millions of its citizens, the game is over.  

It is time for citizens to decide where they will make their stand for their freedom.  The options are limited and come down to three possibilities.  Surrender to the ruling class in DC, organize a mass, targeted protest by way of civil disobedience, OR ignore it and wait for the tyranny to come literally knocking at your door.  That last option ends badly.

Just ****ing stop alreay. The only fraud was by idiot republicans. Trump lost. Trumpo will lose again. Grow up and move the **** on

Edited December 6, 2022 by Occupational Hubris

[el midgetron]

 

 

 

 

 

[Alchopwn]

On 12/5/2022 at 12:32 AM, Eldorado said:

The White House has condemned former President Donald Trump after he called for the "termination" of the US constitution.

Mr Trump made the comments in a post to his Truth social network on Saturday while repeating his false claim that he won the 2020 presidential election.

He also accused "Big Tech Companies" of colluding against him with Democrats.

--

"A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great 'Founders' did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!" he said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-63851751

Trump will be content if the whole world burns provided his ego is satisfied.  If he loves Russia enough to want to rip up the US Constitution, why won't he defect and go live with the rest of the orcs?

[+Link of Hyrule]

14 hours ago, Alpha_Q said:

...concern for violating an in-house policy, and to err on the side of caution. Nothing more...

Wouldn't it be great if the media actually erred on the side of caution in ALL political stories, and not just the ones that make democrats look bad  

[+Link of Hyrule]

How many people actually think Trump wants to abolish the Constitution? I'm genuinely curious if this is a situation where you're just making fun of the words he wrote on social media, or whether you actually think this is some kind of threat to democracy  

Edited December 6, 2022 by Paranoid Android

[the13bats]

On 12/4/2022 at 8:35 AM, spartan max2 said:

Trump's a moron.

Glad he lost.

Hes also a threat to democracy the country and all of the people, this is the loon who wanted an endless term, how? Thats easy ignore the constitution.

[+Link of Hyrule]

32 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Hes also a threat to democracy the country and all of the people, this is the loon who wanted an endless term, how? Thats easy ignore the constitution.

Do you have a source showing where Trump said he "wanted an endless term"??? 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Paranoid Android

[Alpha_Q]

9 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

Wouldn't it be great if the media actually erred on the side of caution in ALL political stories, and not just the ones that make democrats look bad  

Do you really need the release of emails describing internal decision making to tell you how often the Murdoch media outlets erred on the side of caution when writing about Trump specifically and Republicans in general? 

[odas]

9 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

Do you have a source showing where Trump said he "wanted an endless term"??? 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-china-idUSKCN1GG015

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/theweek.com/speedreads/852099/trump-just-joked-about-being-president-life--6th-time%3famp

Yes, he just loves the parades, the flyovers, the bowing infront of him, the apsolute power.....

He said many times how he would love an endless term, but, yes, guess he was only joking..

[lightly]

I’m just curious as to who worded that statement for him….  .because donald jeenyus trump certainly couldn’t have.  

Edited December 6, 2022 by lightly

[Raptor Witness]

On 12/4/2022 at 11:13 AM, and-then said:

……It is time for citizens to decide where they will make their stand …..The options are limited and come down to three possibilities.

 1) Surrender to the ruling class in DC.

2) Organize a mass, targeted protest by way of civil disobedience.

3) Wait for the tyranny to come literally knocking at your door ... 
 

Thomas Jefferson would have agreed with you, but not to defend Donald Trump.

Speaking of something or someone coming to your door, I think I’ve finally figured out who the mysterious woman in red, may be.

Source

[Portre]

15 hours ago, el midgetron said:

But when Democrats want to terminate rules in the Constitution it’s to “save Democracy”……

His Flabbiness wants to:

ter·mi·nate

[ˈtərməˌnāt]

VERB

1. bring to an end:

   "he was advised to terminate the contract"

    

   Democrats want to:

   a·mend

   [əˈmend]

   VERB

   amended (past tense) · amended (past participle)

   1. make minor changes in (a text) in order to make it fairer, more accurate, or more up-to-date:

      "the rule was amended to apply only to nonmembers"

       

      See any difference?  

[Portre]

13 hours ago, Paranoid Android said:

How many people actually think Trump wants to abolish the Constitution? I'm genuinely curious if this is a situation where you're just making fun of the words he wrote on social media, or whether you actually think this is some kind of threat to democracy  

His Flabbiness wants to be President for Life and he wants his looney son to inherit the presidency. 

[lightly]

3 hours ago, Portre said:

His Flabbiness wants to be President for Life and he wants his looney son to inherit the presidency. 

He wants to be RULER Make no mistake about it.    He sees himself as the greatest RULER ,but more importantly to him, the Most Powerful RULER the world has ever known .    He is completely twisted and extremely mentally ill.

[Portre]

18 hours ago, el midgetron said:

 

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/435816-poll-republicans-support-electoral-college-while-democrats-want/

You really should read past the headlines.

From one of the articles you referenced:

In 2012, 54 percent of Republican-leaning adults said that they wanted to amend the Constitution to allow the candidate with the most votes nationwide to become          president. But in 2016, following Trump’s election, GOP support for the idea dropped to just 19 percent

Republicans’ change of opinion in the Gallup surveys appears to have been driven by awareness that Trump did not win the national popular vote.

Edited December 6, 2022 by Portre

[Gromdor]

To be fair, Trump doesn't want to rescind the Constitution, he just wants it to not apply to him.

[+Link of Hyrule]

7 hours ago, odas said:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trump-china-idUSKCN1GG015

As I suspected, it was a joke! 

 

7 hours ago, odas said:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/theweek.com/speedreads/852099/trump-just-joked-about-being-president-life--6th-time%3famp

Didn't Trudeau also praise China's dictatorship? No one in the mainstream left wing media is arguing that Trudeau wants to become a dictator, however! 

 

7 hours ago, odas said:

Yes, he just loves the parades, the flyovers, the bowing infront of him, the apsolute power.....

He said many times how he would love an endless term, but, yes, guess he was only joking..

He was clearly joking. Only your hatred of the man makes you think he's serious! 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Paranoid Android

[+Link of Hyrule]

3 hours ago, Portre said:

His Flabbiness wants to be President for Life and he wants his looney son to inherit the presidency. 

41 minutes ago, lightly said:

He wants to be RULER Make no mistake about it.    He sees himself as the greatest RULER ,but more importantly to him, the Most Powerful RULER the world has ever known .    He is completely twisted and extremely mentally ill.

So at least two, then. TDS is a term too often bandied about, but perhaps it is appropriate here????