WVK Posted December 9, 2022 #1 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona said in remarks published at 6 am ET Friday that she's leaving the Democratic Party and registering as an independent. Why it matters: It's a political earthquake that will shake up the Senate — and a gut punch for Democrats just three days after they secured a 51-49 majority. https://www.axios.com/2022/12/09/kyrsten-sinema-democratic-party-independent-senate 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted December 9, 2022 #2 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Honestly, the only thing that changed is the label she had. Dems still have the majority and she will still continue to vote the same way she always has. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted December 9, 2022 #3 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Not quite as much a gut punch as the sucker punches she has already delivered by not voting with democrats on major bills. But good, more independents could be better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted December 9, 2022 #4 Share Posted December 9, 2022 One off or the first of many? Usually when one goes “off reservation” a couple follow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted December 9, 2022 #5 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Gromdor said: Honestly, the only thing that changed is the label she had. Dems still have the majority and she will still continue to vote the same way she always has. Possibly. But if that's the case, why be bothered with the theatrics? They're more apt to cause anger and confusion than any boost in her popularity. I think if Manchin were smart at all, he'd flip from Blue to Red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted December 9, 2022 #6 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: One off or the first of many? Usually when one goes “off reservation” a couple follow. Tulsi Gabbard left a while back. I would have voted for her for president when she was a Democrat. "I can no longer remain in today's Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms, are hostile to people of faith & spirituality, demonize the police & protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, believe in open borders, weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents, and above all, dragging us ever closer to nuclear war," Gabbard said on Twitter. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tulsi-gabbard-announces-leaving-democratic-party/story?id=91326164 Edited December 9, 2022 by Michelle 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted December 9, 2022 #7 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Communist loving Bernie Sanders is Independent 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portre Posted December 9, 2022 #8 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Sen. Sinema knows she will lose the primary election if she were on the Democratic ballot. As an independent, she is by-passing spending boat loads of cash, keeping it until the general election, i.e., Sen. Sinema is thinking about what's best for Sen. Sinema. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted December 9, 2022 #9 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Russia and Saudi Arabia must have paid her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 9, 2022 #10 Share Posted December 9, 2022 good for her. She caught allot of heck for voting how she felt and not just voting her party line. The democrats shown that they do not believe in voting how you feel. You must tow the party line no matter how you feel. She will mostly vote along the Democrats line but will feel less pressure if she feels they are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted December 10, 2022 #11 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Myles said: good for her. She caught allot of heck for voting how she felt and not just voting her party line. The democrats shown that they do not believe in voting how you feel. You must tow the party line no matter how you feel. So, you're entirely comfortable with McCain and Kinzinger? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted December 10, 2022 #12 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I would be happy if people just said what they stood for rather than party affiliation. All independents would be OK with me. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted December 10, 2022 #13 Share Posted December 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: I would be happy if people just said what they stood for rather than party affiliation. All independents would be OK with me. Until stricter regulations on lobbying are enacted, I don't see being an independent as appealing. Power corrupts regardless of affiliation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted December 10, 2022 #14 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) How bout something like this. What if polititions weren't elected. What if they were conscripted. Kinda like when those famous words were uttered; "Ask not what your country country can do for you, rather what you can do for your country". What if every one had to serve a term in office. Names could be drawn from a computer that match people's skills to a particular posting. All done randomly with the only caveat being you have to be qualified to do the job. That way the cream would be skimmed from the top instead of the bottom of the bucket. Lets face facts. Most people in politics today are in it for them themselves. It's easy for them to get elected because no one in their right mind would want the job. Pick the best from your population and you get the best representation. Makes great sense. Applying this to politics may be the only hope we have of having a peaceful, prosperous, non partisan government. Edited December 10, 2022 by Hankenhunter Spelling 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted December 10, 2022 #15 Share Posted December 10, 2022 To quote the POTUS, "Nana... Nona... Nono... Nano... Oh I don't know... " ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted December 10, 2022 #16 Share Posted December 10, 2022 This thread kind of reminds me of the "Walk Away" movement back in 2018. Wonder what ever happened to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted December 10, 2022 #17 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Myles said: good for her. She caught allot of heck for voting how she felt and not just voting her party line. Imagine you saying that about Liz Cheney...hypocrite. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occupational Hubris Posted December 10, 2022 #18 Share Posted December 10, 2022 41 minutes ago, Gromdor said: This thread kind of reminds me of the "Walk Away" movement back in 2018. Wonder what ever happened to them? literally nothing becasue it was trumper propaganda. Then the founder was arrested, chargered, and convicted of particpating in the jan 6th attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted December 10, 2022 #19 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Hankenhunter said: How bout something like this. What if polititions weren't elected. What if they were conscripted. Why does the Left always go full on Communist when given the chance to really speak their mind?? Hahaha (One month ago, this election is to Save Democracy! ... democracy is saved... Ahh Screw that! We need to bring back forced labor and the Gulags!) Hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent0range Posted December 10, 2022 #20 Share Posted December 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, acidhead said: Why does the Left always go full on Communist when given the chance to really speak their mind?? Hahaha (One month ago, this election is to Save Democracy! ... democracy is saved... Ahh Screw that! We need to bring back forced labor and the Gulags!) Hahaha I don't think anyone really understands what you are saying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 10, 2022 #21 Share Posted December 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Likely Guy said: So, you're entirely comfortable with McCain and Kinzinger? Nope, I have said that ALL politicians are scoundrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted December 10, 2022 #22 Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 hours ago, Agent0range said: Imagine you saying that about Liz Cheney...hypocrite. Can you show where I even commented about Liz? hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbloodmoon Posted December 10, 2022 #23 Share Posted December 10, 2022 To be honest my first thought was “independent movies at the cinema aren’t so bad”. Bad brain auto correct, bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted December 10, 2022 #24 Share Posted December 10, 2022 22 hours ago, WVK said: Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona said in remarks published at 6 am ET Friday that she's leaving the Democratic Party and registering as an independent. Why it matters: It's a political earthquake that will shake up the Senate — and a gut punch for Democrats just three days after they secured a 51-49 majority. https://www.axios.com/2022/12/09/kyrsten-sinema-democratic-party-independent-senate Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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