Britons are priced out of EV ownership

[pellinore]

Britons are being priced out of electric car ownership because there are no affordable battery-powered models in showrooms, according to the latest market review.

While the cheapest petrol-powered motor starts from £12,995 in the UK, the cheapest electric car is twice the price at a bank-busting £25,995.

In fact, there are just three new battery cars in UK showrooms today that cost under £30,000 - and some of the smallest EVs on the market have rocketed in price in recent months and now cost the same as a petrol executive saloon.

Electrifying.com, the dedicated EV website that conducted the market review, said 'action needs to be taken soon' to bring cheaper electric cars into dealerships, especially with the 2030 ban on sales of new petrol and diesel models looming.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/not-what-you-call-affordable-motoring-there-are-just-three-new-electric-cars-on-sale-today-for-less-than-30-000-as-britons-are-priced-out-of-ev-ownership/ar-AA15w5pV?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=26d98e5af0e84f39

Edited December 21, 2022 by pellinore

[itsnotoutthere]

I think it is patently obvious that the plan is to reduce the number of vehicles on the road by making travel too expensive for the plebs. Meanwhile if you earn very good money you can carry on regardless.

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/23073992.traffic-filters-will-divide-city-15-minute-neighbourhoods/

ROAD blocks stopping most motorists from driving through Oxford city centre will divide the city into six "15 minute" neighbourhoods, a county council travel chief has said.

filters would turn Oxford into "a 15-minute city" with local services within a small walking radius.

People can drive freely around their own neighbourhood and can apply for a permit to drive through the filters, and into other neighbourhoods, for up to 100 days per year. This equates to an average of two days per week.

"And he insisted the controversial plan would go ahead whether people liked it or not."

Edited December 21, 2022 by itsnotoutthere

[Ozymandias]

Society HAS to reduce the road miles being made by private vehicles and increase those being made by public transport. There absolutely is no other alternative. We will have to put in place measures to punish the former and reward the latter. 

[pellinore]

1 hour ago, Ozymandias said:

Society HAS to reduce the road miles being made by private vehicles and increase those being made by public transport. There absolutely is no other alternative. We will have to put in place measures to punish the former and reward the latter. 

The measures being put forward will punish the poor and make no difference to the habits of the rich. Private jet use is the exclusive preserve of the wealthy, and is increasing, not becoming less frequent. Just to give recent examples of politicians (Tory, because they are in power, I can't see Labour doing different if they were): Liz Truss took a private airliner to Australia for the Oz deal, and also took a private airliner to some meeting in the ME, jumped off, then flew back without attending the meeting to attend to her bid for the PM job. Johnson took a private jet to have dinner in London while he was attending Cop26 in Scotland. Prince Charles takes a private jet to travel the world to preach about climate. I know there are security issues with politicians and Royalty that don't apply to us, but they make no effort to hide their personal indifference to climate change.

Same with our taxes- we can't afford to give ambulance workers a pay rise in line with inflation, but Lady Michelle Mone's husband was given a £220 Million contract to get a Chinese firm to supply unusable PPE, he took £70 million as personal profit and gave £30M to his wife.  No tax as he has Isle of Mann holdings. It is only being investigated now because the Guardian kicked up a stink.

It is always one rule for the wealthy, another rule for us.

 

Edited December 21, 2022 by pellinore

[pellinore]

Here you go:PICTURED: Tory peer Michelle Mone jets off on luxury £6,000-a-night Alpine ski break (msn.com)

[Ozymandias]

14 hours ago, pellinore said:

The measures being put forward will punish the poor and make no difference to the habits of the rich.

 

The rich will always have advantages over the poor no matter what policy is pursued by government. We have to change our habits and way of doing things even when people do not like it. Smoking was banned, so was smokey fuel. People were made to wear seatbelts. The key here is to improve the public transport system to the point where it really competes with private vehicle ownership. Make private car usage subsidise the public service. Tax the rich. Where there's a will, there's a way. We need government to lead.

[pellinore]

14 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

The rich will always have advantages over the poor no matter what policy is pursued by government. We have to change our habits and way of doing things even when people do not like it. Smoking was banned, so was smokey fuel. People were made to wear seatbelts. The key here is to improve the public transport system to the point where it really competes with private vehicle ownership. Make private car usage subsidise the public service. Tax the rich. Where there's a will, there's a way. We need government to lead.

Except everybody likes the convenience of car ownership. Some people just like cars and driving. With new EVs costing twice the price of new IC cars, and EVs having little second hand value as the batteries are shot after 5 years, car ownership will become the preserve of the rich, as it was in the Golden Age of Motoring in the 1930s. Nice for them, as the roads will be almost empty, but inconvenient for the rest of us.

[Tatetopa]

5 hours ago, pellinore said:

car ownership will become the preserve of the rich, as it was in the Golden Age of Motoring in the 1930s. Nice for them, as the roads will be almost empty, but inconvenient for the rest of us.

I had not though t of that, but possibly true.  On the other hand, seems like my great grandparents and grandparents had pretty full and happy lives with public transport.

Need and greed are strong incentives to solve problems.  Clever individuals will develop affordable alternatives  to offer the public. 

Seems like a bit of a shocker to find ourselves in what we think of as the richest and most advanced societies slipping into necessities that the rest of the world would recognize as commonplace.  It also seems like our very real prosperity and increasing wealth is being funneled into fewer and fewer hands.

[godnodog]

buy used ev, you can get them around 12k€

[+Desertrat56]

On 12/21/2022 at 9:16 AM, pellinore said:

Britons are being priced out of electric car ownership because there are no affordable battery-powered models in showrooms, according to the latest market review.

While the cheapest petrol-powered motor starts from £12,995 in the UK, the cheapest electric car is twice the price at a bank-busting £25,995.

In fact, there are just three new battery cars in UK showrooms today that cost under £30,000 - and some of the smallest EVs on the market have rocketed in price in recent months and now cost the same as a petrol executive saloon.

Electrifying.com, the dedicated EV website that conducted the market review, said 'action needs to be taken soon' to bring cheaper electric cars into dealerships, especially with the 2030 ban on sales of new petrol and diesel models looming.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/not-what-you-call-affordable-motoring-there-are-just-three-new-electric-cars-on-sale-today-for-less-than-30-000-as-britons-are-priced-out-of-ev-ownership/ar-AA15w5pV?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=26d98e5af0e84f39

Those prices are low compared to what we pay in the U.S.   we don't have very many new cars less than 36,000 and the electric cars are essentially the same price as the gas powered cars.  The Nissan Leaf is 28,000 + depending on your bells and whistles, Tesla doesn't put prices on their website but my daughter paid 30,000 for a volvo, and the tesla she wanted was the same price.  The reason she got the volvo is that she could not get the tesla financed in Delaware.

Edited December 22, 2022 by Desertrat56