stereologist Posted January 5 #26 Share Posted January 5 42 minutes ago, Cupid Stunt said: i totally go with that. And as you stated above: in this case, there is really not much going on. My point was: it could be all kinds of things. But the way i percieved it, the13bats chose the suggested explanation, ran with it WITHOUT supporting his claims, while expecting exactly that from anybody else. Maybe i was a bit unclear or teas-y about that, but in the end, that's what i was on about. That's cool. Often people do make statements without supporting them, but if you ask posters like the13bats will say what's on their mind. Others will balk and demand you disprove their opinion. Interesting spoonerism you used. 2 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 5 #27 Share Posted January 5 12 hours ago, Cupid Stunt said: The often-cited "Occam's razor" doesn't relieve one of having to back up any form of opinion. Occam's razor requires multiple theories that can make predictions. Ptolemy's model lasted so long because because it made better predictions than competing models. The Copernicus model eventually did the same but simpler. OR cant be applied to the ET debate. What predictions can the ETH make? 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pellinore Posted January 5 #28 Share Posted January 5 (edited) Airline pilots have been reporting an increase in UFO lights. I don't think they fall into the category of gullible hillbilly types:Light show between 40 and 30 West - PPRuNe Forums And I am not sure earthquake lights have been adequately explained:Earthquake lights, explained | National Geographic Edited January 5 by pellinore 3 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolette Posted January 6 #29 Share Posted January 6 On 1/5/2023 at 7:02 AM, stereologist said: I don't believe the13bats made any "case closed" statement. What they and you both acknowledge is that there is very little to go on here. I also get a kick out of people jumping to the conclusion of UFO when there is nothing even showing anything in the sky other than light splotches. I don't think calling it unidentified is all that much of a jump... People are just very conclusive here and seem to believe "demanding proof" that thier random musings are wrong is a reasonable way to conversate. They seem to be missing the fact that this is an internet forum and the only "proof" they could possibly demonstrate are websites. Which really means nothing but seem to tickle the "skeptics" who already determined thier responses in the 50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolette Posted January 6 #30 Share Posted January 6 17 hours ago, pellinore said: Airline pilots have been reporting an increase in UFO lights. I don't think they fall into the category of gullible hillbilly types:Light show between 40 and 30 West - PPRuNe Forums And I am not sure earthquake lights have been adequately explained:Earthquake lights, explained | National Geographic That smear campaign has gone on way too long. When I first grappled the biggest experience I had with whoever they are I learned from this site to talk openly about what I remembered. This is when I discovered the shear amount of people of all walks of life that would casually mention thier experiences when they felt safe. And I noticed the volume of similar stories online with details that sometimes described things you would have had to see to comprehend but which sounded familiar. Some of us were here to convince ourselves it was ok to talk about, not convince strangers to believe us. To be honest I'm more in awe that in this day and age that hillbilly smear campaign holds more "proof" in boomers' eyes than reality. I think the problem is the gap in science. People are not grasping what it is that they are seeing. Once we develop our sciences or education enough for the general public to understand the expressions of different phases of matter outside of our human perceptions as other dimensions I think it will all fall into place. It seems like they are headed the right direction researching into dark matter more at least so I will try to be patient. 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted January 6 #31 Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Nicolette said: I don't think calling it unidentified is all that much of a jump... People are just very conclusive here and seem to believe "demanding proof" that thier random musings are wrong is a reasonable way to conversate. They seem to be missing the fact that this is an internet forum and the only "proof" they could possibly demonstrate are websites. Which really means nothing but seem to tickle the "skeptics" who already determined thier responses in the 50s. Yawn, that is false. Websites are not the only form of evidence available. Research is also available. You should learn that research extends outside of the internet. There is no evidence it was a UFO as stated. That would be something flying. There is no evidence of anything but light splotches on clouds. 1 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmk1245 Posted January 7 #32 Share Posted January 7 On 1/6/2023 at 12:12 AM, pellinore said: Airline pilots have been reporting an increase in UFO lights. I don't think they fall into the category of gullible hillbilly types:Light show between 40 and 30 West - PPRuNe Forums And I am not sure earthquake lights have been adequately explained:Earthquake lights, explained | National Geographic Kinda, satellites are the culprit, example from Brazil, explained by Mick West On the OP subject, UFO lights superimposed with the map 1 Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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