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Could anti-aging technology produce immortal trillionaires ?


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Let me first state the obvious that everyone else is thinking.

Anti-aging doesn't mean bullet proof or accident proof.

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Robert Heinline wrote a novel about this.  I forgot what it was called.   The main character had his brain transplanted into one of his employees after signing everything over to her.  Essentially he killed her to get her body.    

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Immortality sounds ideal but can a human cope with the psychological implications ? 

The fact immortality drugs will end up with the big corporations or wealthy individuals first is hardly a shock as this is what's always happened.

It is often their interest in paying for new tech that drives these developments as its realised there is an instant, high profit, market for the product. 

 

 

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Immortality sounds awful.   I'm already tired of this place after 40 years, just imagine another 2 million plus....

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11 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said:

Immortality sounds ideal but can a human cope with the psychological implications ? 

The fact immortality drugs will end up with the big corporations or wealthy individuals first is hardly a shock as this is what's always happened.

It is often their interest in paying for new tech that drives these developments as its realised there is an instant, high profit, market for the product. 

 

 

I think immortality would drive someone insane (if they aren't already).    There is no reason to want to live forever, it would get boring.  Sometime at my age I find some things boring that I thought were interesting or exciting when I was young.   Going to a casino, if you aren't an addict, becomes boring after an hour or two.   It is like that.  And addicts are just trying to escape life, not live it, so how could anyone rational want to be immortal, even if they had "godlike"powers like that character Q on star trek.  He got bored so he started breaking the rules and messing with people.

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Knowing human nature, I don’t have a positive view of the outcome. If the vaccine became available tomorrow, I think there soon would be an ego-driven race to become the wealthiest and the most-powerful person on earth. I’d expect to see an epic power struggle followed by a global government that was led by either a benevolent dictator or a totalitarian tyrant. The potential Trillionaires we have today would include Bill Gates, George Soros, Donald Trump, Jeff Bezos, Arab oil Sheiks, Drug Cartel leaders, Russian and Chinese businessmen, etc. I’d like to think that a philanthropist similar to Bill Gates would lead the pack, but I’m sure the winner would be the most ruthless, most power-hungry, and least benevolent warrior-dictator. Money, after all, is the root of many evils.

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8 hours ago, jpeniel333 said:

Let me first state the obvious that everyone else is thinking.

Anti-aging doesn't mean bullet proof or accident proof.

I think that individuals that indulge in this technology would be torn down by others in time thanks to their hubris.

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There might be a use for life extending drugs.

For instance if humans ever decide to travel to other stars then only needing one trained crew for the whole mission would be useful.

If the general population had access then there might need to be a new contract for those with extended life agreeing to continue contributing to society.

 

 

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philanthropist similar to Bill Gates”

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12 hours ago, Desertrat56 said:

There is no reason to want to live forever, it would get boring.

If you believe that, then that is probably your personal truth. Personally, I believe it would be incredibly fascinating to live forever. Think about the technology that you would see, the places that humanity would travel to and explore - and you could be a part of that.

All that being said, if the opportunity were to present itself then I think I would be somewhat hesitant, because I would want to ensure that the love of my life would be able to share these experiences with me.

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19 hours ago, HSlim said:

Immortality sounds awful.   I'm already tired of this place after 40 years, just imagine another 2 million plus....

I agree. But it sounds like depression. This place is no paradise but don't you feel joy when see a patch of clear blue sky in December? If that's not enough for you to be happy that has nothing to do with this place but only with your mind.

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32 minutes ago, Chaldon said:

I agree. But it sounds like depression. This place is no paradise but don't you feel joy when see a patch of clear blue sky in December? If that's not enough for you to be happy that has nothing to do with this place but only with your mind.

I call it "seeing the state of the world".   I live in the southern US, we see clear blue sky damn near every day of the week so nah, that's not gonna make me jump for joy.  So no, I'm not in a rush to die, but I'm also not at all interested in immortality.

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21 hours ago, HSlim said:

Immortality sounds awful.   I'm already tired of this place after 40 years, just imagine another 2 million plus....

There is a reason the human body is only designed to function for up to 120  years.

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Where do you live that you don't get to see blue sky almost every day in any month?     I get depressed if we have 3 cloudy days in a row in December (and I do not live down under).  

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I suppose the idea of immortality in a human body is mostly a desire for people who think this is the only life they get.   So the rest of us may not understand the desire, however I think that the people who want immortality are also the people who are unhappy with their lives and feel they have nothing to look forward to except getting old and ceasing to exist.   Nothing anyone can say to that, except, good luck, hope you do get to do the things you wish you could before you get old.

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On 1/9/2023 at 4:19 PM, simplybill said:

Money, after all, is the root of many evils.

That's a pretty skewed point of view that takes away accountability by placing blame on an object. Money doesn't spend itself. Would you blame a knife for killing people? It's all in who uses it and for what reason. Cuz people are the root of our evil.

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On 1/9/2023 at 3:30 PM, UM-Bot said:

If it's possible to slow down or stop the aging process, chances are it's the richest among us who will be the first to take advantage.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/363066/could-anti-aging-technology-produce-immortal-trillionaires

Technically, someone could read the research right now done on other species, and do it to themselves for less than the price of a Costa Coffee.

The reason why an old and young mice stitched together results in the old one de-aging to the age of the young one is because of the accumulation of a protein in blood. The protein interferes with DNA repair signalling. So as its levels increase an organism gets older.

How to fix it? And is anybody prepared to try what I`m about to write?

Go on a diet for a week with no form of animal protein. After the 5 days your blood protein levels will be nice and low. Do weight lifting and drink a lot of water for the rest of the day. Not enough to put your health at risk, but enough where you go to the toilet 20 times that day.

The diet lowers the protein in question, the weight lifting makes your muscles scavenge a lot of whats left, the water dilutes the blood and hence the protein in question. When you wake up the day after you will look visibly younger. You wont jump from 100 years to 20 years in one session, you need to have all your blood plasma replaced in a hospital for that and its not been trialled. But you will knock a good 5 years off yourself each time you do it.

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57 minutes ago, Cookie Monster said:

But you will knock a good 5 years off yourself each time you do it.

So, if I do this ten times, I will be one year old again?

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2 hours ago, jpeniel333 said:

So, if I do this ten times, I will be one year old again?

Reversal of aging is not reversal of growth.

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On 1/10/2023 at 6:38 AM, Desertrat56 said:

Where do you live that you don't get to see blue sky almost every day in any month?     I get depressed if we have 3 cloudy days in a row in December (and I do not live down under).  

In Oregon, if we see the sun in December, some folks get worried and call 911 about a bright UFO.

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On 1/10/2023 at 6:35 AM, Desertrat56 said:

There is a reason the human body is only designed to function for up to 120  years.

Different reason I think.  Once we reproduce, evolution is through with us.  After young are reared, there is no need for non-reproducing individuals competing for resources.

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