Freez1 Posted January 11, 2023 #51 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) On 1/9/2023 at 6:36 PM, OverSword said: Further down; And even further down; Link This event is not really comparable to the trump document fiasco. That said, I wonder why Biden broke rules about handling and storage of classified material? Because he’s no different than any other president before him including Trump. If searches had been done on every past president I’m sure classified documents would have been found and in fact still could be found. And you wonder how some classified documents end up in the public domain years before their official release. And then people wonder if there real. The **** with Trump is a witch hunt he made allot of enemies. And now Biden is going down the same path. Being president isn’t what it used to be when you dig out the money grabbers of the swamp. Like it or not pay attention it’s only going to get better. Do you honestly believe Biden will be elected another term? No one in their right mind would run for president now because with social media being everyone’s main news source and the bull**** news being fake I mean what have you got to bargain with. More fake news? Edited January 11, 2023 by Freez1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted January 11, 2023 #52 Share Posted January 11, 2023 17 hours ago, Golden Duck said: Ex-politician takes up university post. In other news the Sun rose this morning. More like, "ex-politician get paid for university post". Because it's not like mist of them ever actually tech. The university just uses their name and pays them for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted January 11, 2023 #53 Share Posted January 11, 2023 CNN: Exclusive: US intelligence materials related to Ukraine, Iran and UK found in Biden's private office, source tells CNN. https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/10/politics/biden-classified-documents-iran-ukraine-united-kingdom-beau-funeral/index.html Interesting how Biden had documents on Ukraine. Related to Hunter and Burisma??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted January 11, 2023 #54 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tatetopa said: What is the difference? Look at it this way. Two motorists are driving their cars. They both hit pedestrians. One car stops, drivers and passengers stop to render aid and immediately call 911, then wait for the police to arrive. Biden The other driver drives off as fast as he can and reaches home through a circuitous route. He and his passengers clean the blood off the fender and bumper, pout the car in the garage and claim they have not been out all day. Trump Both drivers hit pedestrians. It is what they did afterwards that makes the distinction. Biden team came forward, Trump team ran from the scene of the crime and tried to hide evidence. But, both drivers also were driving with no drivers license. Do you let the one who stayed at the scene off on the unrelated charge? Trumps looking at three charges. One for obstruction and two for mishandling. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/10/19/doj-prosecutors-have-evidence-to-charge-trump-with-obstruction-in-mar-a-lago-case-but-still-unclear-if-they-will-report-says/?sh=60ecb5d12d3f Quote Trump is being investigated for whether he violated three federal statutes—only one of which involves obstruction, while the rest concern the mishandling of government documents Both mishandling charges could (should?) be equally applicable in this case. It's beyond arguement that Biden took them. And beyond arguement that he didn't secure them according to the Federal Regulations. Edited January 11, 2023 by DieChecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 11, 2023 #55 Share Posted January 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Tatetopa said: What is the difference? Look at it this way. Two motorists are driving their cars. They both hit pedestrians. One car stops, drivers and passengers stop to render aid and immediately call 911, then wait for the police to arrive. Biden The other driver drives off as fast as he can and reaches home through a circuitous route. He and his passengers clean the blood off the fender and bumper, pout the car in the garage and claim they have not been out all day. Trump Both drivers hit pedestrians. It is what they did afterwards that makes the distinction. Biden team came forward, Trump team ran from the scene of the crime and tried to hide evidence. And then claimed they were allowed to run over pedestrians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 11, 2023 #56 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 hours ago, acidhead said: Hmmmm... I'm certain President Biden can declassify documents. Former President Trump can't declassify documents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 11, 2023 #57 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, DieChecker said: More like, "ex-politician get paid for university post". Because it's not like mist of them ever actually tech. The university just uses their name and pays them for it. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 11, 2023 #58 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, DieChecker said: But, both drivers also were driving with no drivers license. Do you let the one who stayed at the scene off on the unrelated charge? Trumps looking at three charges. One for obstruction and two for mishandling. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2022/10/19/doj-prosecutors-have-evidence-to-charge-trump-with-obstruction-in-mar-a-lago-case-but-still-unclear-if-they-will-report-says/?sh=60ecb5d12d3f Both mishandling charges could (should?) be equally applicable in this case. It's beyond arguement that Biden took them. And beyond arguement that he didn't secure them according to the Federal Regulations. Who is saying to let Biden off? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 11, 2023 #59 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, DieChecker said: But, both drivers also were driving with no drivers license. Do you let the one who stayed at the scene off on the unrelated charge? I would like to see competent Presidents and Vice Presidents. It seems reasonable that they do due diligence and make sure that they are taking away no documents belonging to the US. Either classified, or not. Biden and Trump should both be held accountable for having classified documents. We don't know what the original motives were of either Biden or Trump. They could both be innocent or guilty of intentional theft. It is what comes after that that may cause the differentiation between indictments such as obstruction. Biden and Trump should pay the same penalty for having documents, proportionally modified by number, and cooperation. Since Biden is president, he could be impeached, as well. Trump and Biden should both be subject to the 14th Amendment, never to serve again. Of course, Trump may have to answer for additional penalties due to his other crimes of obstruction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted January 11, 2023 #60 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: I'm certain President Biden can declassify documents. Former President Trump can't declassify documents. 100% accurate fact check on a meme Hahaha Edited January 11, 2023 by acidhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 11, 2023 #61 Share Posted January 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, acidhead said: 100% accurate fact check on a meme Hahaha Funny jokes usually have an element of truth to them. That's what makes them funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acidhead Posted January 11, 2023 #62 Share Posted January 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: Funny jokes usually have an element of truth to them. That's what makes them funny. Agreed Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted January 11, 2023 #63 Share Posted January 11, 2023 12 hours ago, Agent0range said: We're only 10 days in and we already have a contender for dumbest comment of the year! Hu? So you think the vice president is allowed to be In personal possession of classified documents, even after he left office?? Or you think that because he is now president it shouldn’t matter? Guess it doesn’t matter either way, cause you’d be wrong. But then it’s never stopped you from running your mouth. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted January 11, 2023 #64 Share Posted January 11, 2023 6 hours ago, DieChecker said: It's beyond arguement that Biden took them. And beyond arguement that he didn't secure them according to the Federal Regulations. Yep, biden should face the same as Trump for not securing documents. Trump may also face other charges. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 11, 2023 #65 Share Posted January 11, 2023 6 hours ago, DieChecker said: More like, "ex-politician get paid for university post". Because it's not like mist of them ever actually tech. The university just uses their name and pays them for it. Hi Die His posting there likely brought in donations to build the think tank and his remuneration is a commission of sorts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portre Posted January 11, 2023 #66 Share Posted January 11, 2023 13 hours ago, acidhead said: The documents were unclassified by Trump(POTUS at the time). The archives knew they were at Trump Palace in Florida. They simply just wanted them back to which Trump said, "Fine come get them". Bidens henchmen then sent the FBI to go get them No, a president can't think about declassifying documents and have them magically declassified. No, the Mango Menace didn't say "come and get them" 13 hours ago, acidhead said: The documents Biden took(stole) were classified documents which he had no authority to have(VP's don't have declassification authority) so there is absolutely no excuse to be in possession of them to begin with Of course a vice president has access to classified documents. 13 hours ago, acidhead said: it's really nice of Biden to return them It would have been really nice if His Flabbiness had returned the classified documents he took when asked instead of obstructing the investigation 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted January 11, 2023 #67 Share Posted January 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Portre said: No, a president can't think about declassifying documents and have them magically declassified. No, the Mango Menace didn't say "come and get them" Now, now. I fully expect him to have psychically and retroactively pardoned himself over any crimes he will be indicted for in the near future (besides this one). 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted January 11, 2023 #68 Share Posted January 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Golden Duck said: Who is saying to let Biden off? Perhaps the person I quoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 11, 2023 #69 Share Posted January 11, 2023 2 hours ago, DieChecker said: Perhaps the person I quoted? No @Tatetopa made an analogy where Biden dobbed himself in. No one is sating let Biden off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lying Posted January 11, 2023 #70 Share Posted January 11, 2023 These documents were stored at the "Biden think tank" funded by the CCP. How many Chinese spies have viewed these documents and was that the purpose for moving them to the CCP funded offices? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted January 11, 2023 #71 Share Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said: These documents were stored at the "Biden think tank" funded by the CCP. How many Chinese spies have viewed these documents and was that the purpose for moving them to the CCP funded offices? I have not seen anything. Edited January 11, 2023 by odas 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 11, 2023 #72 Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Knob Oddy said: These documents were stored at the "Biden think tank" funded by the CCP. How many Chinese spies have viewed these documents and was that the purpose for moving them to the CCP funded offices? That was the most convenient place before Trump moved them to Mar-A-Lago, rented the Chinese operatives rooms, let them play golf and use the pool. Trump had to make nice with them to collect his commission from the Saudis for brokering their oil deals with China. The wonderful thing about fan fiction is that everybody can make up their own stories about their heroes and villains. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted January 11, 2023 #73 Share Posted January 11, 2023 Kids live in Harry Potter World, adults seem to live in Trump / Biden world. The kids got the better deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 11, 2023 #74 Share Posted January 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: That was the most convenient place before Trump moved them to Mar-A-Lago, rented the Chinese operatives rooms, let them play golf and use the pool. Trump had to make nice with them to collect his commission from the Saudis for brokering their oil deals with China. The wonderful thing about fan fiction is that everybody can make up their own stories about their heroes and villains. Trump says it, so it must be true. Quote While it is unclear why Trump accused the Penn Biden Center of being "funded" by China, a New York Post article published in April 2022 noted that the University of Pennsylvania—not the Penn Biden Center itself—had received $54.6 million in Chinese donations between 2014 and 2019. The University of Pennsylvania is not alone in accepting donations from China. From 2013 to 2020, U.S. universities accepted nearly $1 billion in Chinese donations, with Harvard accepting the lion's share, according to Bloomberg. https://www.newsweek.com/trump-claims-china-saw-classified-documents-bidens-think-tank-1772490 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lying Posted January 11, 2023 #75 Share Posted January 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: That was the most convenient place before Trump moved them to Mar-A-Lago, rented the Chinese operatives rooms, let them play golf and use the pool. Trump had to make nice with them to collect his commission from the Saudis for brokering their oil deals with China. The wonderful thing about fan fiction is that everybody can make up their own stories about their heroes and villains. What has Trump got to do with my post? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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