How Conservatives Became Karens

[+OverSword]

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I’m sure there was a tipping point, you know, a moment where conservatism ― the kind that former President Ronald Reagan championed ― called the police and claimed that some egregious act was preventing it from thriving. But we missed it, whenever it was. Now, the party of fiscal responsibility and limited government regulation has turned into the oppressive party that can’t stop crying about how badly it’s being trampled on.

Because conservative white people love them some wars.

I’m not just talking about those grown men and women who dress up to recreate the war that they lost ― I’m talking about all of those who keep moaning about how they’re losing the war that only they are fighting. To hear them tell it, America is under siege. Conservative whites are at war for their guns and their freedoms and their classified documents from inside Mar-a-Lago, which is the closest America will ever come to a lair. They are at war against “wokeism” and “cancel culture” and the dissolution of the white race. They are obsessed with the idea of oppression, and they’re willing to create it when it doesn’t exist.

 

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Now I know that as many examples of over reacting butt hurt liberals can easily be cited.  We experienced an entire presidential term of maniacal left wing democrats behaving like spoiled, out of control children, many of them being encouraged by elected officials, but this opinion piece is not too unfair to todays right.,

Thoughts?  

[+Desertrat56]

I think it has more to do with entitlement attitudes and fear of loosing something intangible (because the media screams it at them everyday) than it does politics.   The politics is just the tool used to keep everyone foaming at the mouth in fear and anger and keep them from thinking rationally about their current local reality (Look over there at that city, look what is happening, something exaggerated to get everyone upset)

[Ell]

I do not consider the skin color of conservatives - nor anybody else - to be relevant. Only racists consider skin color to be relevant. Or maybe I ought to call them skin colorists.

[+Desertrat56]

1 minute ago, Ell said:

I do not consider the skin color of conservatives - nor anybody else - to be relevant. Only racists consider skin color to be relevant. Or maybe I ought to call them skin colorists.

In the olden days it was not just skin color, it was ancestry (Irish, German, etc.   so it was essentially "white on white" bigotry) and we still have people who hate a group because of their religion.   Hate is so easy to foster with the unthinking.

[+and-then]

The piece seems to be mocking Conservatives as though none of these issues are relevant... or even real.  The Left - and that outlet is typical of the Left - is in full assault on all fronts, dismantling traditional America as fast as they possibly can.  It amounts to the American version of a cultural revolution.  

[Knob Oddy]

4 minutes ago, and-then said:

The piece seems to be mocking Conservatives as though none of these issues are relevant... or even real.  The Left - and that outlet is typical of the Left - is in full assault on all fronts, dismantling traditional America as fast as they possibly can.  It amounts to the American version of a cultural revolution.  

This.

There is a very real culture war going on. One side thinks western values and countries are the best that any human civilization has ever had. The other side want to tear it down and replace it with pseudo communism. They think western culture is racist and sexist (even though we know from history that western culture is the least racist culture to have existed)

[+Desertrat56]

9 minutes ago, and-then said:

The piece seems to be mocking Conservatives as though none of these issues are relevant... or even real.  The Left - and that outlet is typical of the Left - is in full assault on all fronts, dismantling traditional America as fast as they possibly can.  It amounts to the American version of a cultural revolution.  

Yeah, it is only "the Left".   

Edited January 11, 2023 by Desertrat56

[spartan max2]

Left and right wing people can be Karen's about different things.

Schools are all about banning books in my neck of the woods. As an example of right wing Karen's.

Recently a school told a teacher that they couldn't read a Dr Seuss book to kids. It was about weevils or something. 

Apparently it was too political because a book about two different groups of people disliking each other sounds too much like talking about racism which is bad to talk about to kids I guess 

Edited January 11, 2023 by spartan max2

[odas]

2 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said:

This.

There is a very real culture war going on. One side thinks western values and countries are the best that any human civilization has ever had. The other side want to tear it down and replace it with pseudo communism. They think western culture is racist and sexist (even though we know from history that western culture is the least racist culture to have existed)

No, history proves you are wrong. While many cultures had slaves and slave trades, the Romans, the Greeks, the Arabs, the Chinese...none of those cultures had slaves specificly of one skin color nor were they racist towards specificly one skin color. 

[+Desertrat56]

4 minutes ago, spartan max2 said:

Left and right wing people can be Karen's about different things.

Schools are all about banning books in my neck of the woods. As an example of right wing Karen's.

Recently a school told a teacher that they couldn't read a Dr Seuss book to kids. It was about weevils or something. 

Apparently it was too political because a book about two different groups of people disliking each other sounds too much like talking about racism which is bad to talk about to kids I guess 

Oh brother, that was someone who never read that book, because that was the whole point of it.  Dr. Suess always resolves the differences of his characters and that particular book was a lesson in making judgement based in misinformation.   I guess who ever wants that book banned wants people to stay divided over nonsense.

[Knob Oddy]

1 minute ago, odas said:

No, history proves you are wrong. While many cultures had slaves and slave trades, the Romans, the Greeks, the Arabs, the Chinese...none of those cultures had slaves specificly of one skin color nor were they racist towards specificly one skin color. 

Do you have slaves? Me neither.

Western values has created the slave free environment (in the west) for no other motive then it was the right thing to do.

BTW, the only reason Africans were imported by Britain to the Caribbean was because their Irish (red haired white) slaves were dieing from tropical desease and heat stroke when relocated.

Chinese had more African slaves then America. Where are they now? Hint, they only allowed castrated male slaves to land in China, hence no guilt now for their treatment. 

The Arabs slave trade sold over 1million Africans over 900 years. 

The British ended the global slave trade at great cost for purely moral reasons. This wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for western values

[+Desertrat56]

4 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said:

Do you have slaves? Me neither.

Western values has created the slave free environment (in the west) for no other motive then it was the right thing to do.

BTW, the only reason Africans were imported by Britain to the Caribbean was because their Irish (red haired white) slaves were dieing from tropical desease and heat stroke when relocated.

Chinese had more African slaves then America. Where are they now? Hint, they only allowed castrated male slaves to land in China, hence no guilt now for their treatment. 

The Arabs slave trade sold over 1million Africans over 900 years. 

The British ended the global slave trade at great cost for purely moral reasons. This wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for western values

Western Values my ass!   The "slave free environment" where?    

Edited January 11, 2023 by Desertrat56

[Knob Oddy]

10 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

Western Values my ass!   The "slave free environment" where?    

Everywhere in the western world in 2023

Edit: whose value system is responsible for the end of the global slave trade? By that I mean shipping slaves around the world, as was common practice, as well as slavery, which has always been common practice in all periods of history except modern western countries 

Edited January 11, 2023 by Knob Oddy

[odas]

5 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said:

Do you have slaves? Me neither.

Western values has created the slave free environment (in the west) for no other motive then it was the right thing to do.

BTW, the only reason Africans were imported by Britain to the Caribbean was because their Irish (red haired white) slaves were dieing from tropical desease and heat stroke when relocated.

Chinese had more African slaves then America. Where are they now? Hint, they only allowed castrated male slaves to land in China, hence no guilt now for their treatment. 

The Arabs slave trade sold over 1million Africans over 900 years. 

The British ended the global slave trade at great cost for purely moral reasons. This wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for western values

Again, western values have nothing to do with it. Western cultures and values are not the same thru all the western hemisphere. They are different from country and nation to country and nation. 

As for chinese and or arabs....well those cultures and nations exist for thousands of years. The enslaved and they were enslaved. Yet, they still managed to reach out to the stars, to mechanics, robotics, medicine...when the west was in the darkest days.

Don't try to lift yourself up with no heals to stand on. By trying to minimize all their accomplishments in and truoghout history you are proving yourself wrong with your statements. 

[+OverSword]

5 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said:

Everywhere in the western world in 2023

Unless you listen to a friend of mine who feels that capitalism has made slaves of us all and the system needs to be overthrown in favor of some fantasy type of socialism that has never and will never exist anywhere.

[spartan max2]

2 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Unless you listen to a friend of mine who feels that capitalism has made slaves of us all and the system needs to be overthrown in favor of some fantasy type of socialism that has never and will never exist anywhere.

The lovely term "wage slave"

[Knob Oddy]

1 minute ago, OverSword said:

Unless you listen to a friend of mine who feels that capitalism has made slaves of us all and the system needs to be overthrown in favor of some fantasy type of socialism that has never and will never exist anywhere.

Yes, capitalism is the worst system except for all the others.

No other system has lifted so many people out of poverty. It may not be perfect, but its far better than any alternative.

 

[Piney]

23 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said:

Do you have slaves? Me neither.

Western values has created the slave free environment (in the west) for no other motive then it was the right thing to do.

BTW, the only reason Africans were imported by Britain to the Caribbean was because their Irish (red haired white) slaves were dieing from tropical desease and heat stroke when relocated.

Chinese had more African slaves then America. Where are they now? Hint, they only allowed castrated male slaves to land in China, hence no guilt now for their treatment. 

The Arabs slave trade sold over 1million Africans over 900 years. 

The British ended the global slave trade at great cost for purely moral reasons. This wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for western values

The American Indians were dying too fast and Africans were introduced to various colonies and they mixed.

The Irish and Scottish sold by Cromwell mixed into this and created the Tri-racial communities which include the remnant Indian bands. Which is where many "High Yellow" African Americans get their Irish and Scottish names from.

Several Scots from Durham when Cromwell sold the whole bunch wound up at the Indian River Hundred in Delaware and mixed with the Nanticokes and Blacks who were living there. Which is where many Nanticokes got their Scotch names 

Edited January 11, 2023 by Piney
brain fart

[Knob Oddy]

1 minute ago, spartan max2 said:

The lovely term "wage slave"

Offensive to people who are actually slaves today, or who have ancestors who were slaves (like everyone alive today).

Do you think the slaves in Egypt could have said "im not building the pyramid today, there's a better offer from the guy building the sphinx"?

No, even "wage slaves" can resign for better deals, and really have noone but themselves to blame for their situation

[Piney]

19 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said:

Do you have slaves? Me neither.

Western values has created the slave free environment (in the west) for no other motive then it was the right thing to do.

BTW, the only reason Africans were imported by Britain to the Caribbean was because their Irish (red haired white) slaves were dieing from tropical desease and heat stroke when relocated.

Chinese had more African slaves then America. Where are they now? Hint, they only allowed castrated male slaves to land in China, hence no guilt now for their treatment. 

The Arabs slave trade sold over 1million Africans over 900 years. 

The British ended the global slave trade at great cost for purely moral reasons. This wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for western values

The Chinese used Turkic, Jurchen, Yeneisian and Eastern Iranian slaves captured from wars.

Not Africans.

[+Desertrat56]

7 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Unless you listen to a friend of mine who feels that capitalism has made slaves of us all and the system needs to be overthrown in favor of some fantasy type of socialism that has never and will never exist anywhere.

Yep, that is an easy one to fall for as well.   Not practical and pie in the sky.   There has to be balance somehow but we haven't figured out how to find it yet.

[Knob Oddy]

2 minutes ago, Piney said:

The American Indians were dying too fast and Africans were introduced to various colonies and they mixed.

The Irish and Scottish sold by Cromwell mixed into this and created the Tri-racial communities which include the remnant Indian bands. Which is why many "High Yellow" African Americans get their Irish and Scottish names from.

Several Scots from Durham when Cromwell sold the whole bunch wound up at the Indian River Hundred in Delaware and mixed with the Nanticokes and Blacks who were living there. Which is where many Nanticokes got their Scotch names 

Yes. New England was very similar climate to northern europe. It was the Irish in the Caribbean which suffered dreadfully.

BTW, what about the natives African slaves? Probably not in the northwest, but definitely around the "trail of tears". I had no idea until recently of the mistreatment of africans by the natives who wanted slaves 

[HSlim]

2 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said:

Offensive to people who are actually slaves today, or who have ancestors who were slaves (like everyone alive today).

Do you think the slaves in Egypt could have said "im not building the pyramid today, there's a better offer from the guy building the sphinx"?

No, even "wage slaves" can resign for better deals, and really have noone but themselves to blame for their situation

But haven't they found out the builders of the pyramids were actually paid workers?  

Edited January 11, 2023 by HSlim

[spartan max2]

2 minutes ago, Knob Oddy said:

Offensive to people who are actually slaves today, or who have ancestors who were slaves (like everyone alive today).

Do you think the slaves in Egypt could have said "im not building the pyramid today, there's a better offer from the guy building the sphinx"?

No, even "wage slaves" can resign for better deals, and really have noone but themselves to blame for their situation

Yeah I think wage slave is a dumb term. There why I was laughing at it 

[Buzz_Light_Year]

This is an article by the Huffington Post.

I'm astonished to find that people like to have their intelligence insulted by such drivel that can only be spun by a Huffer.