How Conservatives Became Karens

[Golden Duck]

On 1/12/2023 at 7:17 AM, Piney said:

No slaves were used. They were well paid craftsmen.

Khufu learnt how to lead "feudal" Egypt from the ground up.  The Great Pyramid reflected this.

He paid his Jews.

[+OverSword]

On 1/11/2023 at 1:17 PM, Piney said:

No slaves were used. They were well paid craftsmen.

So we don't know how they were built for sure but we know the workers weren't slaves ?   Alrighty then

[Piney]

1 hour ago, OverSword said:

So we don't know how they were built for sure but we know the workers weren't slaves ?   Alrighty then

They found the workers quarters and it's a myth that we don't know how their built. Dirt ramps.

[odas]

13 hours ago, OverSword said:

So we don't know how they were built for sure but we know the workers weren't slaves ?   Alrighty then

Those findings are not new. Excavations from 30-40 years ago found evidence that Jews were not slaves or at least the majority was not during the built. Their quarters were seperated according to the functions they had, labour, engineering...

 

[Setton]

17 hours ago, OverSword said:

I am a licensed Life and Health Insurance agent.

And suddenly your opposition to everyone having affordable healthcare makes sense...

[preacherman76]

16 hours ago, Piney said:

They found the workers quarters and it's a myth that we don't know how their built. Dirt ramps.

Yeah? Try it. Good luck with that. I have been in the construction business in one way or another nearly my entire adult life. And I call Serious BS. 

[preacherman76]

18 hours ago, OverSword said:

So we don't know how they were built for sure but we know the workers weren't slaves ?   Alrighty then

Right, cause Egypt was all about freedom for the masses. 

[preacherman76]

4 hours ago, Setton said:

And suddenly your opposition to everyone having affordable healthcare makes sense...

He never said that. He just says government isn’t the answer. And he is right. 

[Setton]

36 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

He never said that. He just says government isn’t the answer. And he is right. 

As evidenced by all the other developed countries.

Where it works.

[preacherman76]

1 hour ago, Setton said:

As evidenced by all the other developed countries.

Where it works.

For some it works. For others, like in Canada if you try to apply for things that take a long time, they ask you if you’d rather they kill you than wait. 
 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/paralympian-claims-canada-offered-to-euthanise-her-when-she-asked-for-a-stairlift/ar-AA14RLpW

[DarkHunter]

14 hours ago, odas said:

Those findings are not new. Excavations from 30-40 years ago found evidence that Jews were not slaves or at least the majority was not during the built. Their quarters were seperated according to the functions they had, labour, engineering...

 

There is the fundamental problem that what most people think of as the pyramids were built around approximately between 2700 BC and 2400 BC while going by Biblical accounts Jacob, the father of the 12 people who would found the 12 tribes of Israel, is generally believed to of lived around 1800 1900 BC and Moses by the same account was generally believed to of lived around 1450 BC.

Pyramids were built after, specifically between approximately 2000 BC and 1750 BC and then again between 750 BC and 650 BC.

Ultimately using the Biblical accounts the time period the Jews would of been slaves in Egypt were a time when building pyramids had stopped.  

[+OverSword]

On 1/13/2023 at 4:45 AM, Setton said:

And suddenly your opposition to everyone having affordable healthcare makes sense...

I oppose the corrupt and greedy government which I do not trust being handed the largest raise in the history of governance.  

[+OverSword]

On 1/12/2023 at 4:01 PM, Piney said:

They found the workers quarters and it's a myth that we don't know how their built. Dirt ramps.

I'm not claiming our space brothers helped us or anything but we KNOW how they got this exacting precision laying 100 ton slabs deep within a pyramid?  I think we can guess but nobody knows for sure except maybe Edward Leedskalnin

[+Desertrat56]

17 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I oppose the corrupt and greedy government which I do not trust being handed the largest raise in the history of governance.  

Where do you think the "corrupt and greedy government" gets their money, from the payoff of the large corporations.   Besides, it isn't "the government", it is the politicians.   Get a grip.

[Piney]

26 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I'm not claiming our space brothers helped us or anything but we KNOW how they got this exacting precision laying 100 ton slabs deep within a pyramid?  I think we can guess but nobody knows for sure except maybe Edward Leedskalnin

@Thanos5150 You might be able to help these gentlemen. They think pyramid construction is a mysterious thingy.

On 1/13/2023 at 11:51 AM, preacherman76 said:

Yeah? Try it. Good luck with that. I have been in the construction business in one way or another nearly my entire adult life. And I call Serious BS. 

Engineering degree and all? 

Edited January 17 by Piney
brain fart

[+OverSword]

24 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

Where do you think the "corrupt and greedy government" gets their money, from the payoff of the large corporations.   Besides, it isn't "the government", it is the politicians.   Get a grip.

They get it by borrowing us into insurmountable debt.  

[+OverSword]

10 minutes ago, Piney said:

@Thanos5150 You might be able to help these gentlemen. They think pyramid construction is a mysterious.

On 1/13/2023 at 8:51 AM, preacherman76 said:

Seriously dude, we can't know on certain methods of their construction, we can only guess at the different way things were accomplished.  As far as not using slaves based on living quarters?  How does that mean they didn't use slaves?  It doesn't.  It may have been a religious obligation on the part of the laborers is another guess, but only a guess.  Can't know. 

Edited January 17 by OverSword

[Piney]

18 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Seriously dude, we can't know on certain methods of their construction, we can only guess at the different way things were accomplished.  As far as not using slaves based on living quarters?  How does that mean they didn't use slaves?  It doesn't.  It may have been a religious obligation on the part of the laborers is another guess, but only a guess.  Can't know. 

Oh, they most certainly used prisoners as slave labor. But the US still does that in factory prisons. 

When you drink a Starbucks holiday coffee. Thank a con.

[+OverSword]

Just now, Piney said:

Oh, they most certainly used prisoners as slave labor. But the US still does that in factory prisons. 

When you drink a Starbucks holiday coffee. Thank a con.

I would but corporate has closed all the stores near me for trying to unionize. 

[Piney]

9 minutes ago, OverSword said:

I would but corporate has closed all the stores near me for trying to unionize. 

Then when you eat McDonald's thank your local prisoners. 

[+OverSword]

On 1/13/2023 at 9:34 AM, Setton said:

As evidenced by all the other developed countries.

Where it works.

 

Quote

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1502211/

Three in five NHS trusts in England fail on basic care

Three in five NHS trusts in England are failing basic standards of care and safety set by the government, it emerged this week.

The failings were admitted by the trusts themselves in the first ever national self assessment exercise, which replaces the star rating system.

The most common breaches included failure to decontaminate reusable equipment, poor management of patients’ records, lack of compliance with guidelines on diagnosis and treatment, and faults in staff training procedures.

 

Sounds Lovely 

[Thanos5150]

39 minutes ago, Piney said:

@Thanos5150 You might be able to help these gentlemen. They think pyramid construction is a mysterious thingy.

Regarding the use of slaves:

The notion they did not use slaves to build the pyramids came largely from and popularized by Lehner's premature assessment of the provenance of the so called "pyramid workers town" (which dates to the reign of Menkure). The conditions there were of a standard clearly above what was expected to be afforded to slaves ergo "slaves were not used to build the pyramids". Despite the clear need for a more cautious interpretation with it more likely at the very least this town did not serve the typical pyramid (slave) laborer, this was repeated over and over as "fact".

Expectedly as it turns out more discovery revealed the town was  not for the pyramid workers after all, but rather to service the associated barracks and port. 

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Lehner said his team also found at Giza charcoal remains of cedar, juniper, pine and oak, all trees that grew in a part of the eastern Mediterranean called the Levant, along with more than 50 examples of combed ware jars, a style of pottery from that region....

Where there is a port there are sailors. At the city the archaeologists found evidence that a series of long buildings called "galleries" held troops who could have participated in voyages to the Levant and possibly guarded VIPs while at Giza....

Archaeologists once assumed galleries like these held pyramid workers, something that recent discoveries call into question; in recent excavations of the galleries Lehner's team found charcoal remains from wood, particularly cedar, that was originally from the Levant. 

"What was all this cedar from the Levant doing in a common workers barracks?" Lehner asked. In fact, these troops are represented in the tombs of highly placed officials and in pyramid temples. "You have representations of these gangs, these troops, repeated over and over again," he said, adding that the word for them can be translated as "escort" or "the following." Each individual gallery could hold about 40 people comfortably, which is a unit these troops could be organized into, Lehner said.

"I wonder if we are basically seeing barracks not of the workers, but of elite crews of ships," Lehner said.

 

The notion they did no[t] use slaves is unfortunately bogus so one would think at some point it would stop being repeated. A further tip off this might was not the case, for example, the reports of Sneferu among others going about capturing 7,000 Nubians and 11,000 Lybians-what do you think the point of making prisoners of nearly 20,000 people was? Couldn't have been to work on all those pyramids he built. And then you have the indentured slaves, indigenous criminals and whatnot that would also be used as labor. 

 

[Thanos5150]

1 hour ago, OverSword said:

I'm not claiming our space brothers helped us or anything but we KNOW how they got this exacting precision laying 100 ton slabs deep within a pyramid?  I think we can guess but nobody knows for sure except maybe Edward Leedskalnin

Quoting myself from elsewhere:

I have been to Coral Castle. Stayed in Florida for a few days on my way to Peru and Bolivia. Couldn't miss it. Ed was a kook, but also an idiot savant of sorts. To think one man (mostly) built it all (and dismantled a large portion of it and moved it to another location and put it back together) is very impressive, but there is an extremely valuable lesson to be learned from Ed in how simple mechanical advantage can accomplish extraordinary things. Ed believed he had figured out the secrets of the pyramid builders and to some extent, in principle, I believe he did.

Pulleys and rope. 

And for G1 more like 60 tons (or less), but what's 40 tons among friends.  

Edited January 17 by Thanos5150

[+OverSword]

34 minutes ago, Thanos5150 said:

And for G1 more like 60 tons (or less), but what's 40 tons among friends.  

So you're certain it wasn't our space brothers building a world wide energy network?

[Thanos5150]

7 hours ago, OverSword said:

So you're certain it wasn't our space brothers building a world wide energy network?

99.9%. I'm still hopeful.