Biden aides find second batch of classified documents at new location

[itsnotoutthere]

Now that a 2nd batch of Confidential docs have been confirmed stolen by Biden when he was VP, does anyone else get the sense Dems are trying to push him out? All this comes out just days after the GOP takes over the House & starts investigating? The timing is almost too good

[Tatetopa]

30 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Now that a 2nd batch of Confidential docs have been confirmed stolen by Biden when he was VP, does anyone else get the sense Dems are trying to push him out? All this comes out just days after the GOP takes over the House & starts investigating? The timing is almost too good

Yep, Biden and Trump, a package deal. Senile old men who need to be playing golf and riding trikes not influencing US government.

[itsnotoutthere]

2 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Yep, Biden and Trump, a package deal. Senile old men who need to be playing golf and riding trikes not influencing US government.

Whoa.... So he's a senile old man now... and not the messiah. 

[Tatetopa]

16 hours ago, Jon the frog said:

All that classified documents witch hunt just blowed up in their face. If they start to scratch a little bit more, they will probably find some in the footprint of each administrations...

One way yo look at it, but rather a partisan view.

If we think about it from the interests of the US government and citizens, security leaks are dangerous. Its not a witch hunt.  The lasting question is how did so many documents get loose both in Republican and Democratic administrations.  Seems like we have a leak in our system that needs to be fixed desperately.  Trump and Biden are big news.  Were there nameless staffers working in any administration that quietly and anonymously walked out with a classified document or two an did not make the news?

Its not time for arm waving, virtue signaling and finger pointing, its time to fix the system.

[Tatetopa]

3 minutes ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Whoa.... So he's a senile old man now... and not the messiah. 

I overstated.  Both are advancing through the less focused and more confusing  age in life.   In another two or three years one or both may advance along that line into senility.  In both cases that might easily appear  before 2028.

 I still hold my view that neither should be president again.  Biden was never viewed as a savior.  Trump may have had that reputation with some of his supporters, but not the general public.

I don't need a savior to run my government as some people do.  All I need is somebody of above average capability and honesty, not even perfection, just above average.   

[WVK]

Garland appoints special counsel to investigate Biden docs

https://apnews.com/article/classified-documents-biden-home-wilmington-33479d12c7cf0a822adb2f44c32b88fd

[+and-then]

9 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Impeachable offence???

They can just add it to the list.  He could have one of the largest group of articles of impeachment in our history.  I hope they will impeach him, not because I'd expect his removal, but just to see how the Senate and our "free press" contort themselves to shill for him.

It amazes me that Merrick Garland actually did the right thing and appointed a Special Counsel to look into this issue.  I guess the subject matter of the documents just couldn't be plausibly ignored.

Edited January 12 by and-then

[+and-then]

6 hours ago, Agent0range said:

So if he faces consequences for voluntarily turning over documents they found, what consequences should someone face that refused to turn over documents they purposely took from a SCIF, where the documents are never supposed to leave?  

First, Trump had a SCIF at MAL. Biden had no such security for these documents since they were taken at a time after he was VP.  Only a sitting POTUS has the unquestioned legal authority to declassify at will.  Second, imo it is the SUBJECT MATTER of the documents that were taken that is causing this Special Counsel appointment.  I'm still amazed that Garland actually appointed a SC for the matter but I think he realizes the Republican House would investigate it very thoroughly if DOJ kept a hand's off posture.  This way, DOJ will be in control of an investigation that the media can use to spin the findings for their own narrative. 

The House should simply include these documents in their corruption investigation of the laptop's contents.  It seems these documents were in large part about China and Ukraine.

Edited January 12 by and-then

[the13bats]

4 hours ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi Myles

Yes there should be consequences which most agree with however they are not exactly the same offence given how they were discover and returned so penalties should be different. 
I still think that most Americans should be more concerned about who they want to represent both parties in the future as neither Biden or Trump should be in the running ever again. These people have been found to have made mistakes accept it and don’t waste focus arguing about them and focus on the future of your country and who will repress you the best.

Maybe the voters should be the ones selecting who they want to run for both parties. Your party may not win so would think that if everyone looked for the most moderate in both parties whether it is your party of choice then there might be less friction about who gets in as you had a voice in both selections.

True and voters the American people 2020 made it loud and clear that one of these two is done overwith gone, 2024 will show the other will retire.

[+OverSword]

35 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

One way yo look at it, but rather a partisan view.

If we think about it from the interests of the US government and citizens, security leaks are dangerous. Its not a witch hunt.  The lasting question is how did so many documents get loose both in Republican and Democratic administrations.  Seems like we have a leak in our system that needs to be fixed desperately.  Trump and Biden are big news.  Were there nameless staffers working in any administration that quietly and anonymously walked out with a classified document or two an did not make the news?

Its not time for arm waving, virtue signaling and finger pointing, its time to fix the system.

My guess is most of these files indicate corruption and that's why they hid them.

[the13bats]

6 minutes ago, and-then said:

First, Trump had a SCIF at MAL. Biden had no such security for these documents since they were taken at a time after he was VP.  Only a sitting POTUS has the unquestioned legal authority to declassify at will.  Second, imo it is the SUBJECT MATTER of the documents that were taken that is causing this Special Counsel appointment.  I'm still amazed that Garland actually appointed a SC for the matter but I think he realizes the Republican House would investigate it very thoroughly if DOJ kept a hand's off posture.  This way, DOJ will be in control of an investigation that the media can use to spin the findings for their own narrative. 

The House should simply include these documents in their corruption investigation of the laptop's contents.  It seems these documents were in large part about China and Ukraine.

SOUNDS like A witch HUNT to ME.

[+and-then]

1 minute ago, OverSword said:

My guess is most of these files indicate corruption and that's why they hid them.

IF the report is correct, they were documents concerning China and Ukraine, primarily.  But I'm sure that was just "coincidence".  The House should include this in their own investigations.  It will be interesting to see of DOJ can lock them out of viewing the evidence.

[Agent0range]

38 minutes ago, and-then said:

First, Trump had a SCIF at MAL. Biden had no such security for these documents since they were taken at a time after he was VP. 

The SCIF was removed when he LOST the election.  And again, not all classified documents require a SCIF.  And if you think Trump declassified those documents, you're a fool.  Submit a FOIA request to access them, and tell us how that goes for you.

[+and-then]

1 hour ago, and-then said:

IF the report is correct, they were documents concerning China and Ukraine, primarily.  But I'm sure that was just "coincidence".  The House should include this in their own investigations.  It will be interesting to see of DOJ can lock them out of viewing the evidence.

I was mistaken about China information being part of those documents at Biden's think tank.  It was Iran, Ukraine, and the UK.  The story mentioned China in the context that it had donated tens of millions of dollars to Joe's Think Tank. 

[el midgetron]

They were in his garage !!! LOL

He also revealed that Joe Biden’s attorney notified them on December 20th about the classified documents found in his garage, that were secured by the FBI.

President Joe Biden’s counsel Richard Sauber said in a statement that Biden’s possession of the classified documents was a “mistake” and the documents were “inadvertently misplaced.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/12/attorney-general-merrick-garland-assigns-special-counsel-investigate-joe-biden-possession-classified-documents/

[acidhead]

Hahaha   

 

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

51 minutes ago, el midgetron said:

They were in his garage !!! LOL

He also revealed that Joe Biden’s attorney notified them on December 20th about the classified documents found in his garage, that were secured by the FBI.

President Joe Biden’s counsel Richard Sauber said in a statement that Biden’s possession of the classified documents was a “mistake” and the documents were “inadvertently misplaced.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/12/attorney-general-merrick-garland-assigns-special-counsel-investigate-joe-biden-possession-classified-documents/

Trump stole, Biden inadvertently misplaced. Trump was malicious, Biden forgetful. Trump wanted to benefit from the documents, Biden just wanted to store the documents. 
Obviously the business with the FBI needing to raid Trump to seize the documents looks bad, but frankly, if you’re feeling “targeted” by the FBI, would you let them just enter your home? 

[acidhead]

12 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Trump stole, Biden inadvertently misplaced. Trump was malicious, Biden forgetful. Trump wanted to benefit from the documents, Biden just wanted to store the documents. 
 

"The adults are in charge now" hahaha 

[Jon the frog]

3 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

One way yo look at it, but rather a partisan view.

If we think about it from the interests of the US government and citizens, security leaks are dangerous. Its not a witch hunt.  The lasting question is how did so many documents get loose both in Republican and Democratic administrations.  Seems like we have a leak in our system that needs to be fixed desperately.  Trump and Biden are big news.  Were there nameless staffers working in any administration that quietly and anonymously walked out with a classified document or two an did not make the news?

Its not time for arm waving, virtue signaling and finger pointing, its time to fix the system.

I think there is leak at each administrations, it's first an administrative problems that sensitives documents existence en emplacement are not traced. Both  Republican and Democrat work in the same system and clearly some flaws exist. Don't know how many found their whey in bad hands, it look that they cannot know if it happen a lot or not. FInding documents by chance is quite bad, not knowing they where missing or existing is even worse.

[Tatetopa]

3 hours ago, OverSword said:

My guess is most of these files indicate corruption and that's why they hid them.

Easy enough to find out, they have all been returned and there is a special counsel to investigate, a Trump appointee no less.  I hope you are not guessing Bigfoot is implicated too, he is totally innocent.  Think I'll wait and see what develops.

 

[+OverSword]

1 minute ago, Tatetopa said:

Easy enough to find out, they have all been returned and there is a special counsel to investigate, a Trump appointee no less.  I hope you are not guessing Bigfoot is implicated too, he is totally innocent.  Think I'll wait and see what develops.

 

It's not easy enough to find out, the information is classified.  Tell me why you think a politician would rathole classified documents?   Your attitude seems to assume this is just an innocent thing. 

Whoopsie, I accidentally took those secret documents out of where they are supposed to be kept and hid them, my bad.

[Tatetopa]

4 hours ago, and-then said:

They can just add it to the list.  He could have one of the largest group of articles of impeachment in our history.  I hope they will impeach him, not because I'd expect his removal, but just to see how the Senate and our "free press" contort themselves to shill for him.

It amazes me that Merrick Garland actually did the right thing and appointed a Special Counsel to look into this issue.  I guess the subject matter of the documents just couldn't be plausibly ignored.

If you had troubled to read Merrick Garland's history you would have seen what type of person he is, not a  Democrat or a Republican, he does his duty.  Break away from MSM feeds and the dark net and look for yourself.  I assume you still have the capability to look at a person's words and actions and see if they are a charlatan or an honest man. At least I hope you can.  Otherwise, it really does not seem to matter what anybody says or does, your mind is made up even unto predicting the future. 

[Tatetopa]

1 minute ago, OverSword said:

It's not easy enough to find out, the information is classified.  Tell me why you think a politician would rathole classified documents?   Your attitude seems to assume this is just an innocent thing. 

Whoopsie, I accidentally took those secret documents out of where they are supposed to be kept and hid them, my bad.

Course you got to wonder a little bit why after all this time Biden would turn those documents in if they were evidence of corruption.  He could have just kept his mouth shut.

A DOJ prosecutor will not have trouble finding out, classified or not. The government still does not operate on Twitter trends and public transparency and never will.  At some point, there will be a come to Jesus moment and the DOJ will make something public. You can choose to believe it or assume it is a cover up.  Do you have massive evidence of Biden corruption or just MSM and public opinion?  Not  anything the Republicans who have examined Hunter's laptop have said is evidence of corruption.  We still need evidence in court, otherwise we could just burn  someone at the stake  and claim a successful witch hunt.  

The files could be evidence of corruption or not, I have no preconceived idea what will be found. 

Circumstantially. I look at Biden's lifestyle and that of his family.  They are comfortable and likely millionaires as half of all Congress members are, and yet don't seem to display a lavish lifestyle or boast of wealth.  Does old Joe have millions of dollars socked away in a secret account? He didn't pull it out when his son Beau was dying of cancer.  His daughter in law and grandchildren are comfortable but again, not lavishly wealthy.  Other reasons for corruption?  Again maybe, but evidence is all important.  

But there can be no win.  If there is no evidence, will you be convinced of a cover up by a corrupt government? Throw out the Democrats and fill the place up with Republicans, maybe put Santos on the ethics committee?  Doubt that will fix it.

[+OverSword]

42 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Do you have massive evidence of Biden corruption or just MSM and public opinion?

A proven liar with questionable ties to China and Ukraine who as a lifelong career politician after multiple attempts to become the most powerful man in the world at last succeeds as senility closes in during the most abnormal election in US history and then gets caught with stolen top secret documents part of which are hidden in Pennsylvania and the other part in Delaware.  What's not to trust?  

[DieChecker]

17 hours ago, the13bats said:

While others very well might have documents out of place trumpy is the one who took them on purpose to his home for years lied about them refused to return them etc, whatever. I see the forest for the trees on this one. The fact trumps minions are now are in a panic scurrying about resulting to whataboutism tells me they see their BOM going down in flames.

Whataboutism!!