The Puzzler Posted January 31, 2023 #1 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) So, I’m sittin drinkin thinkin…when another dot puzzle hit me…can you guess what it is! Edited January 31, 2023 by The Puzzler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted January 31, 2023 Author #2 Share Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Slowpokes….this alignment looks exactly the same as each other Edited January 31, 2023 by The Puzzler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ell Posted January 31, 2023 #3 Share Posted January 31, 2023 So Orion is a bird? I connected the dots occasionally when I was a child and teenager. The problem with these dots is that they are not numbered. Since no-one wrote down what they are supposed to show, it is anyone's guess. A troop of elephants? A garden shed? A hypodermic needle? A rose bush? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted January 31, 2023 #4 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, The Puzzler said: Slowpokes….this alignment looks exactly the same as each other So ancient people saw their mythological figures and items in star formations. What's new? To my father's people the bucket of the Big Dipper is the pot that catches souls and is known as Corpse Catcher. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted February 1, 2023 #5 Share Posted February 1, 2023 7 hours ago, The Puzzler said: So, I’m sittin drinkin thinkin…when another dot puzzle hit me…can you guess what it is! Yeah: a Bull and a dead Orion. Don't know about the bird on a stick, though. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #6 Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Abramelin said: Yeah: a Bull and a dead Orion. Don't know about the bird on a stick, though. Yes, a Bull facing Orion…even his eye is distinctly glaring at Orion, as they say Taurus eye does. The bird on a stick, placed conspicuously where Sirius would be. OK, this was the hurdle. But I found a good reference. To Polynesians, Sirius is a Bird, named Manu. “Sirius served as the body of a "Great Bird" constellation called Manu, with Canopus as the southern wingtip and Procyon the northern wingtip, which divided the Polynesian night sky into two hemispheres” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #7 Share Posted February 1, 2023 11 hours ago, Ell said: So Orion is a bird? I connected the dots occasionally when I was a child and teenager. The problem with these dots is that they are not numbered. Since no-one wrote down what they are supposed to show, it is anyone's guess. A troop of elephants? A garden shed? A hypodermic needle? A rose bush? No Orion is the bird headed man. The bird on the staff is Sirius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #8 Share Posted February 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Piney said: So ancient people saw their mythological figures and items in star formations. What's new? To my father's people the bucket of the Big Dipper is the pot that catches souls and is known as Corpse Catcher. Orion is a saucepan here…lol Thats the point. He’s not always been an archer/hunter nor Sirius a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted February 1, 2023 #9 Share Posted February 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Puzzler said: ut I found a good reference. To Polynesians, Sirius is a Bird, named Manu. You call that a good reference? It's on the other side of the planet! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #10 Share Posted February 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Abramelin said: You call that a good reference? It's on the other side of the planet! Research who Polynesians are. Before their ancestors even got to Taiwan and travelled on to Polynesia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #11 Share Posted February 1, 2023 https://www.science.org/content/article/south-asians-are-descended-mix-farmers-herders-and-hunter-gatherers-ancient-dna-reveals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abramelin Posted February 1, 2023 #12 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, The Puzzler said: Research who Polynesians are. Before their ancestors even got to Taiwan and travelled on to Polynesia. So they came from France, travelled to Taiwan, and then to Polynesia. Right. Edited February 1, 2023 by Abramelin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #13 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) My ancestors and all mythology associated with them comes from the other side of the world too…like most Australians and Americans. You’re lucky your heritage has probably always stayed or been in Holland. In the same timeframe, last few hundred years. Edited February 1, 2023 by The Puzzler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #14 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Abramelin said: So they came from France, travelled to Taiwan, and then to Polynesia. Right. The point is, the ancestors of Polynesians were not confined to the islands, they got there and bought their ancient knowledge with them. It was simply showing how the bird on the staff could be Sirius…as you didn’t know what connection it could have with a bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cormac mac airt Posted February 1, 2023 #16 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Abramelin said: So they came from France, travelled to Taiwan, and then to Polynesia. Right. Wrong, didn’t have anything to do with France. cormac 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 1, 2023 #17 Share Posted February 1, 2023 7 hours ago, The Puzzler said: Orion is a saucepan here…lol Thats the point. He’s not always been an archer/hunter nor Sirius a dog. Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 1, 2023 #18 Share Posted February 1, 2023 6 hours ago, The Puzzler said: Research who Polynesians are. Before their ancestors even got to Taiwan and travelled on to Polynesia. The Austronesian Urheimat was Formosa, Tawain. Then they spread to the continent later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #19 Share Posted February 1, 2023 7 hours ago, cormac mac airt said: Wrong, didn’t have anything to do with France. cormac This is true. I never said they did, to be clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #20 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Piney said: The Austronesian Urheimat was Formosa, Tawain. Then they spread to the continent later. What continent? Asia? Or Polynesia? Who were they before Taiwan. Indigenous people from Australia can be traced back to the Denisovan time, Time is irrelevant. The Polynesians might worship Sirius as a known mythology from 18,000BC, as a bird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #21 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Piney said: Of course not. So why is it such a conundrum he was depicted on the cave art…do you think this cave art is Taurus, Orion and Sirius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #22 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) This one again, it’s late,, but I got a few days off work now, I will try and get this PDF up Edited February 1, 2023 by The Puzzler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 1, 2023 #23 Share Posted February 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Puzzler said: What continent? Asia? Or Polynesia? Who were they before Taiwan. Indigenous people from Australia can be traced back to the Denisovan time, Time is irrelevant. The Polynesians might worship Sirius as a known mythology from 18,000BC, as a bird. Somewhere in Southeast Asia before they spoke the language. The South Asian Homo Erectus probably were Denisovans but DNA doesn't stand up in warm climes. As for Denisovans, I have their genes. As for the ancestors of Austronesians, we can only guess what they worshiped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted February 1, 2023 #24 Share Posted February 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Piney said: Somewhere in Southeast Asia before they spoke the language. The South Asian Homo Erectus probably were Denisovans but DNA doesn't stand up in warm climes. As for Denisovans, I have their genes. As for the ancestors of Austronesians, we can only guess what they worshiped. Would you clarify this segment please because as written it’s a mashup. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Puzzler Posted February 1, 2023 Author #25 Share Posted February 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Piney said: Somewhere in Southeast Asia before they spoke the language. The South Asian Homo Erectus probably were Denisovans but DNA doesn't stand up in warm climes. As for Denisovans, I have their genes. As for the ancestors of Austronesians, we can only guess what they worshiped. Through Native Americans? I don’t doubt it. ”A 2011 study found that Denisovan DNA is prevalent in Aboriginal Australians, Near Oceanians, Polynesians,” Like like the Polynesians and even our indigenous people I mentioned. It’s ages old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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