Still Waters Posted February 18, 2023 #1 Share Posted February 18, 2023 The mother of a six-year-old boy has been arrested after he brought a gun to his primary school in Virginia - the latest such incident in the US state. Police were called to Little Creek Elementary School in the city of Norfolk on Thursday afternoon, where staff gave them the handgun. No-one was injured, but one mother says the boy threatened to shoot her daughter in class. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64685367 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glorybebe Posted February 18, 2023 #2 Share Posted February 18, 2023 WTH is going on with these parents? These poor kids 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted February 18, 2023 #3 Share Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, glorybebe said: WTH is going on with these parents? These poor kids Grooming? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 18, 2023 #4 Share Posted February 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: Grooming? In a gun culture. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted February 18, 2023 #5 Share Posted February 18, 2023 Merry Christmas, Jesus loves you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted February 19, 2023 #6 Share Posted February 19, 2023 15 hours ago, Piney said: In a gun culture. It’s an idolizing and celebrating criminal behavior culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted February 19, 2023 #7 Share Posted February 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Tatetopa said: Merry Christmas, Jesus loves you. I highly doubt these are the types who’s 6 year old brings a gun to school 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 19, 2023 #8 Share Posted February 19, 2023 32 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: It’s an idolizing and celebrating criminal behavior culture. Nobody wanted to listen to MLK when he said "close the ghettos and take the profit from poverty". So you have Latino and Black gangs. Like you had Italian, Irish and Jewish gangs when they lived in the ghetto. Then you have mobsters and outlaw bikers being glorified on TV. On the other side a firearm is a tool for a job and that's it. Not a toy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted February 19, 2023 #9 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Piney said: Nobody wanted to listen to MLK when he said "close the ghettos and take the profit from poverty". So you have Latino and Black gangs. Like you had Italian, Irish and Jewish gangs when they lived in the ghetto. Then you have mobsters and outlaw bikers being glorified on TV. On the other side a firearm is a tool for a job and that's it. Not a toy. Yep. It’s all over the place. Hear any rap music lately? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 19, 2023 #10 Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, preacherman76 said: Yep. It’s all over the place. Hear any rap music lately? Watch 'The Godfather', 'Sons of Anarchy' or 'Breaking Bad'? Not all rap is gangster rap. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted February 19, 2023 #11 Share Posted February 19, 2023 42 minutes ago, Piney said: Watch 'The Godfather', 'Sons of Anarchy' or 'Breaking Bad'? Not all rap is gangster rap. No not all. The other types of rap, if not about violence, is about glorifying the objectification of women, or about drugs, greed, and over indulgence. I agree all these forms of entertainment have contributed. I find it very odd you stand in defense of rap music. Very odd indeed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted February 19, 2023 #12 Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 hours ago, preacherman76 said: Yep. It’s all over the place. Hear any rap music lately? A 6 year old brought a gun to school because of rap? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 19, 2023 #13 Share Posted February 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: No not all. The other types of rap, if not about violence, is about glorifying the objectification of women, or about drugs, greed, and over indulgence. I agree all these forms of entertainment have contributed. I find it very odd you stand in defense of rap music. Very odd indeed. There is a form of Indian rap that is about powow traditions and rez problems. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted February 19, 2023 #14 Share Posted February 19, 2023 7 hours ago, preacherman76 said: I highly doubt these are the types who’s 6 year old brings a gun to school Because? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted February 19, 2023 #15 Share Posted February 19, 2023 5 hours ago, spartan max2 said: A 6 year old brought a gun to school because of rap? My God, it’s the 80s again. They’ll blame DnD next… 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knob Oddy Posted February 19, 2023 #16 Share Posted February 19, 2023 5 hours ago, spartan max2 said: A 6 year old brought a gun to school because of rap? Or because all of their role models carry firearms and listen to music about using them to show you're a real G. Seriously, its a culture that promotes murder and irresponsible use of firearms. Not something seen in families that teach responsible use, like the family photos above 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knob Oddy Posted February 19, 2023 #17 Share Posted February 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: My God, it’s the 80s again. They’ll blame DnD next… Rap is just a symptom of culture. The culture of irresponsible gun use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted February 19, 2023 #18 Share Posted February 19, 2023 6 hours ago, spartan max2 said: A 6 year old brought a gun to school because of rap? In part, probably. Why do people not want to face the fact some in this country are born into horrific cultures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted February 19, 2023 #19 Share Posted February 19, 2023 3 hours ago, Tatetopa said: Because? Because they look like law abiding parents who, though they posed for a tasteless picture, most likely put those guns under lock and key. Several of those guns are for hunting. One is a serious fully auto oozy looking weapon. Not something the average person can get down at the gun shop. Most likely at least one member of that family is military with special clearance. Did you get 6 year old taking a hand gun to school vibe from that picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted February 19, 2023 #20 Share Posted February 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, preacherman76 said: Because they look like law abiding parents who, though they posed for a tasteless picture, most likely put those guns under lock and key. The parents of the six year old kids who took guns to school looked law abiding too. If we track past discussions, many law abiding gun owners resist the idea of locking their guns up. Since the Colorado representative and her husband have been detained by police on more than one occasion, law abiding may not be in her resume. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted February 19, 2023 #21 Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, preacherman76 said: In part, probably. Why do people not want to face the fact some in this country are born into horrific cultures? So I've actually worked with a couple kiddos who brought guns to school (sadly seems more common than it ends up on the news. I'm not sure why some events make national news while others don't) . Be it's either at school, to the bus, or in their locker. And each time the main factors seemed to be 1) perceiving that they were bullied and wanting the bullies to stop. And 2) having access to guns at home. Edited February 19, 2023 by spartan max2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted February 20, 2023 #22 Share Posted February 20, 2023 2 hours ago, spartan max2 said: So I've actually worked with a couple kiddos who brought guns to school (sadly seems more common than it ends up on the news. I'm not sure why some events make national news while others don't) . Be it's either at school, to the bus, or in their locker. And each time the main factors seemed to be 1) perceiving that they were bullied and wanting the bullies to stop. And 2) having access to guns at home. Yeah I could see that. In this case though he was threatening to shoot people before he ever pulled out the gun. A girl no less. Sounds like he was trying to be a thug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacherman76 Posted February 20, 2023 #23 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tatetopa said: The parents of the six year old kids who took guns to school looked law abiding too. If we track past discussions, many law abiding gun owners resist the idea of locking their guns up. Since the Colorado representative and her husband have been detained by police on more than one occasion, law abiding may not be in her resume. Being detained by police doesn’t mean they have committed a crime. In fact people get detained all the time for exorcising constitutional rights. I haven’t seen a pic of the parents. They obviously at least don’t take gun ownership very responsibly. Edited February 20, 2023 by preacherman76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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