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The Pentagon Is Investigating UFOs That Possibly Turned Off Warheads


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t’s been a jam-packed month for unidentified flying objects in the U.S., so let’s add one more juicy piece of UFO news to the pile: Now, the government is supposedly investigating reports of UFOs somehow deactivating nuclear warheads. The Daily Mail claims that former U.S. Air Force personnel have testified that UFOs interfered with nukes in the 1960s. The officers reportedly recently told the government’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) that they had bizarre encounters with the objects near U.S. military bases.

The Daily Mail says it’s seen an email showing that AARO staff contacted former Air Force ICBM launch officer Robert Salas to get information about the encounter with an orange flying disc that switched off 10 warheads at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana, in 1967. Another former officer, Dr. Robert Jacobs, supposedly told AARO that he made a film for the Air Force in 1964 that captured images of a UFO shooting a test missile out of the sky.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-pentagon-is-investigating-ufos-that-possibly-turned-off-warheads/ar-AA17QhU2?ocid=Peregrine&cvid=f9431405a6ba410a93f4a5c8e480f780

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On 2/24/2023 at 5:12 AM, Grim Reaper 6 said:

t’s been a jam-packed month for unidentified flying objects in the U.S., so let’s add one more juicy piece of UFO news to the pile: Now, the government is supposedly investigating reports of UFOs somehow deactivating nuclear warheads. The Daily Mail claims that former U.S. Air Force personnel have testified that UFOs interfered with nukes in the 1960s. The officers reportedly recently told the government’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) that they had bizarre encounters with the objects near U.S. military bases.

The Daily Mail says it’s seen an email showing that AARO staff contacted former Air Force ICBM launch officer Robert Salas to get information about the encounter with an orange flying disc that switched off 10 warheads at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana, in 1967. Another former officer, Dr. Robert Jacobs, supposedly told AARO that he made a film for the Air Force in 1964 that captured images of a UFO shooting a test missile out of the sky.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-pentagon-is-investigating-ufos-that-possibly-turned-off-warheads/ar-AA17QhU2?ocid=Peregrine&cvid=f9431405a6ba410a93f4a5c8e480f780

 

We are in a new day of reality of UAPs. My base was involved in investigations in response to UAPs that dismantled Minuteman missiles in the field because we were the depot for those missiles. 

Ex-Air Force Personnel: UFOs Deactivated Nukes

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-air-force-personnel-ufos-deactivated-nukes/

The Malmstrom AFB UFO/Missile Incident

http://www.cufon.org/cufon/malmstrom/malm1.htm

Soviet nukes and UFOs

 http://www.openminds.tv/soviet-nukes-and-ufos

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

 

We are in a new day of reality of UAPs. My base was involved in investigations in response to UAPs that dismantled Minuteman missiles in the field because we were the depot for those missiles. 

Ex-Air Force Personnel: UFOs Deactivated Nukes

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-air-force-personnel-ufos-deactivated-nukes/

The Malmstrom AFB UFO/Missile Incident

http://www.cufon.org/cufon/malmstrom/malm1.htm

Soviet nukes and UFOs

 http://www.openminds.tv/soviet-nukes-and-ufos

 

 

 

Hello and thanks for you reply, and thanks for you service. I am also Ex Military where were you stationed when this occurred?

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1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Hello and thanks for you reply, and thanks for you service. I am also Ex Military where were you stationed when this occurred?

 

Thank you for your service. I was was in training at Amarillo AFB,TX. in 1967 and upon completion, I was sent to Phan Rang Air Base, Vietnam. In 1968, I was assigned to a special unit at Hill AFB, UT., which was memorable because we were sent to Air Force bases around the world to conduct specialized task on aircraft and to transport Minuteman missiles. Hill AFB was not only a depot of the Minuteman missile, but for the F-4 Phantom as well and it was the F-4 Phantom that was involved in the 1976 Iranian UAP encounter, an event that was  tracked by a DSP satellite as well.

Iranian F-4 Phantom Jet Chase, Radar/Visual/E-M/IAD Signal
Sept. 19, 1976
Tehran, Iran

http://www.nicap.org/760919tehran_dir.htm

I also began flight training for a private pilot license at the Hill AFB aero club  and managed my flight training between TDY deployments.

 

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22 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

 

Thank you for your service. I was was in training at Amarillo AFB,TX. in 1967 and upon completion, I was sent to Phan Rang Air Base, Vietnam. In 1968, I was assigned to a special unit at Hill AFB, UT., which was memorable because we were sent to Air Force bases around the world to conduct specialized task on aircraft and to transport Minuteman missiles. Hill AFB was not only a depot of the Minuteman missile, but for the F-4 Phantom as well and it was the F-4 Phantom that was involved in the 1976 Iranian UAP encounter, an event that was  tracked by a DSP satellite as well.

Iranian F-4 Phantom Jet Chase, Radar/Visual/E-M/IAD Signal
Sept. 19, 1976
Tehran, Iran

http://www.nicap.org/760919tehran_dir.htm

I also began flight training for a private pilot license at the Hill AFB aero club  and managed my flight training between TDY deployments.

 

Thank you for your reply, I salute you for your service in Vietnam. I joined the US Military in 1978 at 18 years old and retired in 2003, and then worked as a U.S. Government contractor in Middle Eastern operations retiring in 2019. My military MOS 54B, My Specific job was ASI Technical Escort Nuclear, Biological and Chemical operations. I was tasked on a few occasions to escort the movement of Nuclear Weapons and Radioactive Materials within the Continental United States.

I was not aware of the information you provided, I have never really followed the UFO Phenomenon and I must be honest I am not a believer that we have been visited by extraterrestrials. However, I have an open mind, so information like you provided is always interesting to me personally. So, thank you for providing it, I will research it a little further through my personal connections to see what the conclusions were. I am also going to look at your links.

It’s alway great to meet another Veteran on this forum, we have a few here and some are senior personnel. However, I believe you’re the only Vietnam Veteran posting here, and that is really cool, although it’s a terrible shame you and others never were treated well for your service and that really p***es me off.

Thanks for your comments, I sincerely appreciate them and please stay in touch as of today I am going to start following you!:tu:

@Trelanei know you not a believer in the UFO Phenomenon, but I would like to introduce you to Vietnam Veteran who had some experiences while in the Air Force! 

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12 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

@Trelanei know you not a believer in the UFO Phenomenon, but I would like to introduce you to Vietnam Veteran who had some experiences while in the Air Force! 

I've seen Sky's other "contributions" in this sub forum. I don't discredit his service or what he thinks he may have observed. I just categorically disagree with the majority of what he states or proposes. Much of what he posts/argues has been explained/debunked a long time ago. He simply doesn't accept those answers and that's a "him" problem.

I've had some unique security opportunities in my career. I've been from side of this planet to the other and in all that time and travel I have not seen anything that makes me believe we're being visited by extraterrestrials.

Again, I am not discrediting his service to the nation, and I thank him for his service and sacrifice. 

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5 hours ago, Trelane said:

I've seen Sky's other "contributions" in this sub forum. I don't discredit his service or what he thinks he may have observed. I just categorically disagree with the majority of what he states or proposes. Much of what he posts/argues has been explained/debunked a long time ago. He simply doesn't accept those answers and that's a "him" problem.

I've had some unique security opportunities in my career. I've been from side of this planet to the other and in all that time and travel I have not seen anything that makes me believe we're being visited by extraterrestrials.

Again, I am not discrediting his service to the nation, and I thank him for his service and sacrifice. 

Thanks for your reply, and your candor like you I don’t believe we are being visited by extraterrestrials either just not sure if you had met this member.

Thanks for your reply! 

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17 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Thank you for your reply, I salute you for your service in Vietnam. I joined the US Military in 1978 at 18 years old and retired in 2003, and then worked as a U.S. Government contractor in Middle Eastern operations retiring in 2019. My military MOS 54B, My Specific job was ASI Technical Escort Nuclear, Biological and Chemical operations. I was tasked on a few occasions to escort the movement of Nuclear Weapons and Radioactive Materials within the Continental United States.

I was not aware of the information you provided, I have never really followed the UFO Phenomenon and I must be honest I am not a believer that we have been visited by extraterrestrials. However, I have an open mind, so information like you provided is always interesting to me personally. So, thank you for providing it, I will research it a little further through my personal connections to see what the conclusions were. I am also going to look at your links.

It’s alway great to meet another Veteran on this forum, we have a few here and some are senior personnel. However, I believe you’re the only Vietnam Veteran posting here, and that is really cool, although it’s a terrible shame you and others never were treated well for your service and that really p***es me off.

Thanks for your comments, I sincerely appreciate them and please stay in touch as of today I am going to start following you!:tu:

@Trelanei know you not a believer in the UFO Phenomenon, but I would like to introduce you to Vietnam Veteran who had some experiences while in the Air Force! 

Thank you for your service. Vietnam was rough, but not many people today know that UFOs were overflying Vietnam as well. As a cover for UFOs over Vietnam, the Pentagon referred to them as "helicopters" which we knew was false.

Over the years, I found that UFOs  were dismantling our missiles in the field and in those cases, UFOs were reported overhead by Air Force personnel. The Malmstrom AFB case of March 1967 were actually multiple incidents about a week apart involving E-Flight and O-Flight. In both those cases, a UFO was reported by Air Force personnel. Robert Kaminski, Boeing's chief investigator, confirmed that UFOs were seen over the missile field during the missile shutdowns. He was eventually contacted by Don Peterson, who was Boeing's representative stationed at Hill AFB. He said the E-Flight incident was being reported as a "UFO event" because Air Force personnel reported a UFO hovering overhead at the time of the shutdowns. The Malmstrom AFB UFO incidents would not be the last for that base nor other SAC bases around the country. 

 UFO sightings at ICBM sites and nuclear Weapons Storage Areas 
           https://www.nicap.org/norad3b1.htm

http://www.nicap.org/babylon/missile_incidents.htm

The Malmstrom AFB  incidents got the attention of Lt. Col. Lewis D. Chase, Chief of Operations Division, who mentioned in his report that a UFO had landed on March 24, 1967. An interesting thing about Lt. Col. Chase is that he was the RB-47 bomber pilot whose aircraft was chased over multiple states by a UFO and his aircraft was tracked by ground-based radar. His UFO encounter is mentioned at the following links.

UFO Encounter of Lt. Col. Lewis D. Chase

http://www.nicap.org/reports/rb47_update_sparks.htm

Official Reports

https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/projectbluebook/ProjectBlueBook-RB47-July17-1957.pdf

 

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Yeah the skyeagle rabbit hole of delusion just isnt worth the waste of time.

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1 hour ago, the13bats said:

Yeah the skyeagle rabbit hole of delusion just isnt worth the waste of time.

I deal in facts, not delusions. Provide evidence that prove the UFO events I've posted did not occur as reported.

 

 

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On 2/24/2023 at 5:12 AM, Grim Reaper 6 said:

t’s been a jam-packed month for unidentified flying objects in the U.S., so let’s add one more juicy piece of UFO news to the pile: Now, the government is supposedly investigating reports of UFOs somehow deactivating nuclear warheads. The Daily Mail claims that former U.S. Air Force personnel have testified that UFOs interfered with nukes in the 1960s. The officers reportedly recently told the government’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) that they had bizarre encounters with the objects near U.S. military bases.

The Daily Mail says it’s seen an email showing that AARO staff contacted former Air Force ICBM launch officer Robert Salas to get information about the encounter with an orange flying disc that switched off 10 warheads at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana, in 1967. Another former officer, Dr. Robert Jacobs, supposedly told AARO that he made a film for the Air Force in 1964 that captured images of a UFO shooting a test missile out of the sky.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-pentagon-is-investigating-ufos-that-possibly-turned-off-warheads/ar-AA17QhU2?ocid=Peregrine&cvid=f9431405a6ba410a93f4a5c8e480f780

Here is another report that I would like to present.

A NARRATIVE OF UFO EVENTS AT MINOT AIR FORCE BASE

 

Background

In 1968, Strategic Air Command (SAC) was the operational establishment of the United States Air Force, responsible for the bomber-based and ballistic missile-based strategic nuclear arsenal. Minot AFB, located in the northwestern part of North Dakota, was a principal SAC dual-wing base. The two wings headquartered at Minot included the 5th Bombardment Wing, with 15 B-52H Stratofortress strategic bombers capable of delivering nuclear and conventional ordinance worldwide; and the 91st Strategic Missile Wing, responsible for 150 Minuteman, Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) housed in underground Launch Facilities scattered across an area of more than 8,500 square miles. Today both wings continue operations under the major command of the Air Force Global Strike Command.[

RAPCON alerted the pilots to the location of a UFO, which the B-52 navigator observed on the radarscope maintaining a three-mile distance throughout a standard 180° turnaround. As the B-52 started its descent back to Minot AFB, the UFO appeared to close distance to one mile at a high-rate of speed, pacing the aircraft for nearly 20 miles before disappearing off the radarscope. Both B-52 UHF radios would not transmit during the close radar encounter with the UFO and radarscope film was recorded.

https://minotb52ufo.com/

https://minotb52ufo.com/introduction.php

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2 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

Here is another report that I would like to present.

A NARRATIVE OF UFO EVENTS AT MINOT AIR FORCE BASE

 

Background

In 1968, Strategic Air Command (SAC) was the operational establishment of the United States Air Force, responsible for the bomber-based and ballistic missile-based strategic nuclear arsenal. Minot AFB, located in the northwestern part of North Dakota, was a principal SAC dual-wing base. The two wings headquartered at Minot included the 5th Bombardment Wing, with 15 B-52H Stratofortress strategic bombers capable of delivering nuclear and conventional ordinance worldwide; and the 91st Strategic Missile Wing, responsible for 150 Minuteman, Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBMs) housed in underground Launch Facilities scattered across an area of more than 8,500 square miles. Today both wings continue operations under the major command of the Air Force Global Strike Command.[

RAPCON alerted the pilots to the location of a UFO, which the B-52 navigator observed on the radarscope maintaining a three-mile distance throughout a standard 180° turnaround. As the B-52 started its descent back to Minot AFB, the UFO appeared to close distance to one mile at a high-rate of speed, pacing the aircraft for nearly 20 miles before disappearing off the radarscope. Both B-52 UHF radios would not transmit during the close radar encounter with the UFO and radarscope film was recorded.

https://minotb52ufo.com/

https://minotb52ufo.com/introduction.php

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13 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Send me a private message!

Hey mate

Quick heads up.

Search the forum for posts by Tim Hebert :tu: 

He's got a lot of information on those incidents.

http://timhebert.blogspot.com/?m=1

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On 2/24/2023 at 5:12 AM, Grim Reaper 6 said:

t’s been a jam-packed month for unidentified flying objects in the U.S., so let’s add one more juicy piece of UFO news to the pile: Now, the government is supposedly investigating reports of UFOs somehow deactivating nuclear warheads. The Daily Mail claims that former U.S. Air Force personnel have testified that UFOs interfered with nukes in the 1960s. The officers reportedly recently told the government’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) that they had bizarre encounters with the objects near U.S. military bases.

The Daily Mail says it’s seen an email showing that AARO staff contacted former Air Force ICBM launch officer Robert Salas to get information about the encounter with an orange flying disc that switched off 10 warheads at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana, in 1967. Another former officer, Dr. Robert Jacobs, supposedly told AARO that he made a film for the Air Force in 1964 that captured images of a UFO shooting a test missile out of the sky.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-pentagon-is-investigating-ufos-that-possibly-turned-off-warheads/ar-AA17QhU2?ocid=Peregrine&cvid=f9431405a6ba410a93f4a5c8e480f780

Air Force officers are talking UFOs regarding the Malmstrom AFB missile shutdowns.

 

Colonel Walter Figel Interview

WF: These Strike Teams—I didn’t tell them what we had heard [about the UFO]—you know, via the LF radio, and I told them to go get within a mile of the site there and call back in on the VHF (Very High Frequency telephone). And they both reported that we had two maintenance crews, two security troops on-site, and two Strike Teams all reporting it.

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A few salient points regarding Malmstrom AFB 1967 myth...apologies for bringing this up.  This case begins and ends with the engineering analysis done after the event.  BTW, the main thrust is true, that is 10 ICBMs drop Launch Facility No-Go (LFNG) off strat alert, but...but the issue began with the weapon system processor at the Launch Control Center emitting an electronic pulse to each 10 ICBMs.

An exhausting review of the official Engineering Analysis and wing-wide investigation shows that no maintenance crews were out in the flight area of the affected Flight (Echo) and it can be said that no security teams were dispatched at the initial time of the incident.  Why do I state this?  Because only the launch crew was interviewed.  There is nothing in the investigation that shows that maintenance or security crews were interviewed.  That seems noteworthy in my mind.  

For the UFO angle to be true, then 10 UFOs would have had to been over 10 Launch Facilities...there is no shred of evidence that this was so.  Or...one UFO would have had to have been hovering over the Launch Control Facility...this did not happen due to no one reporting such a thing to have occurred.  Fifty-six years have elapsed since then and not one individual has come forward to state that this occurred...NOT ONE.

The LFs were, and still are, electrically isolated from one another to preclude such a cascading event happening at one LF effecting the remaining LFs.  There were hardened cables that radiated out to each LF from the LCC for command and control purposes thus the "pulse" going through each individual cabling system to the respective LFs.

I would encourage readers to review Engineering Change Proposal (ECP) 1221 which was Boeing's fix for all Minuteman wings and Vandenberg AFB test sites that implemented EMP surge protection fixes.  The same was done for the Titan II ICBM sites under project Loggy Ebb.

But...I repeat myself.

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2 hours ago, Tim Hebert said:

A few salient points regarding Malmstrom AFB 1967 myth...apologies for bringing this up.  This case begins and ends with the engineering analysis done after the event.  BTW, the main thrust is true, that is 10 ICBMs drop Launch Facility No-Go (LFNG) off strat alert, but...but the issue began with the weapon system processor at the Launch Control Center emitting an electronic pulse to each 10 ICBMs.

An exhausting review of the official Engineering Analysis and wing-wide investigation shows that no maintenance crews were out in the flight area of the affected Flight (Echo) and it can be said that no security teams were dispatched at the initial time of the incident.  Why do I state this?  Because only the launch crew was interviewed.  There is nothing in the investigation that shows that maintenance or security crews were interviewed.  That seems noteworthy in my mind.  

For the UFO angle to be true, then 10 UFOs would have had to been over 10 Launch Facilities...there is no shred of evidence that this was so.  Or...one UFO would have had to have been hovering over the Launch Control Facility...this did not happen due to no one reporting such a thing to have occurred.  Fifty-six years have elapsed since then and not one individual has come forward to state that this occurred...NOT ONE.

The LFs were, and still are, electrically isolated from one another to preclude such a cascading event happening at one LF effecting the remaining LFs.  There were hardened cables that radiated out to each LF from the LCC for command and control purposes thus the "pulse" going through each individual cabling system to the respective LFs.

I would encourage readers to review Engineering Change Proposal (ECP) 1221 which was Boeing's fix for all Minuteman wings and Vandenberg AFB test sites that implemented EMP surge protection fixes.  The same was done for the Titan II ICBM sites under project Loggy Ebb.

But...I repeat myself.

Your attempt to debunk this case won't work, Tim. The 1967 Malmstrom AFB missile investigation found no faults within the Minuteman systems that could account for the shutdown of 10 missiles. I also noticed that you ignored the fact that Air Force personnel reported UFOs overhead. Now, why am I not surprised that you ignored that fact? Let's take a look here.

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Former Boeing Engineer, Robert Kaminski Confirms UFO Activity at Echo Flight Missile Launch Control Facility in 1967

 “Since this was a field site peculiar incident, a determination was made to send out an investigation team to survey the LCF [Echo Launch Control Facility] and the LFs [Launch Facilities, or silos] to determine what failures or related incidents could be found to explain the cause. The team was made up of qualified engineers and technicians headed by scientific person who was a glaciologist. There were about 5 persons in all that were sent out. After a week in the field the team returned and pooled their data. At the outset the team quickly noticed a lack of anything that would come close to explain why the event occurred. There were no significant failures, engineering data or findings that would explain how ten missiles were knocked off alert. This indeed turned out to be a rare event and not encountered before. The use of backup power systems and other technical system circuit operational redundancy strongly suggests that this kind of event is virtually impossible once the system was up and running and on line with other LCF's and LF's interconnectivity.

[After months of investigation,] the team met with me to report their findings and it was decided that the final report would have nothing significant in it to explain what happened at E-Flight. In other words there was no technical explanation that could explain the event. The team went off to do the report. Meanwhile I was contacted by our representative at OOAMA (Don Peterson) and told by him that the incident was reported as being a UFO event—That a UFO was seen by some Airmen over the LCF [sic] at the time E-Flight went down.

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To sum it up, Tim, you have no case in regard to your attempt debunk to this case as a technical glitch has failed. I might add that other SAC bases were affected by UFOs as well. 

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T-ppkyGqf68/ThKCxpWJ8LI/AAAAAAAAGw0/-1nq1HzZb5I/s1600/UFO%2BReport%2Bat%2B%2BMissile%2BSites%2C%2BF%2BE%2BWarren%2BAFB%2BW

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HduBCkwHgDU/ThKCpoeMkLI/AAAAAAAAGws/5siVHNsnDYk/s1600/UFO%2BReport%2Bat%2B%2BMissile%2BSites%2C%2BF%2BE%2BWarren%2BAFB%2BW

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PXeDY3KOwgA/TLJJq4KQ7DI/AAAAAAAAFxw/U9DKA9qirhU/s1600/UFO+Report+Minot+AFB+8-25-1966+(Pg+1).jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_PXeDY3KOwgA/TLJJgp-lLOI/AAAAAAAAFxo/k6DRVoOx-QY/s1600/UFO+Report+Minot+AFB+8-25-1966+(Pg+2).jpg

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On 2/24/2023 at 5:12 AM, Grim Reaper 6 said:

t’s been a jam-packed month for unidentified flying objects in the U.S., so let’s add one more juicy piece of UFO news to the pile: Now, the government is supposedly investigating reports of UFOs somehow deactivating nuclear warheads. The Daily Mail claims that former U.S. Air Force personnel have testified that UFOs interfered with nukes in the 1960s. The officers reportedly recently told the government’s All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) that they had bizarre encounters with the objects near U.S. military bases.

The Daily Mail says it’s seen an email showing that AARO staff contacted former Air Force ICBM launch officer Robert Salas to get information about the encounter with an orange flying disc that switched off 10 warheads at Malmstrom Air Force Base, Montana, in 1967. Another former officer, Dr. Robert Jacobs, supposedly told AARO that he made a film for the Air Force in 1964 that captured images of a UFO shooting a test missile out of the sky.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-pentagon-is-investigating-ufos-that-possibly-turned-off-warheads/ar-AA17QhU2?ocid=Peregrine&cvid=f9431405a6ba410a93f4a5c8e480f780

 

UFOs have been known to affect our strategic missiles, even those of the Russians.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tim Hebert said:

A few salient points regarding Malmstrom AFB 1967 myth...apologies for bringing this up.  This case begins and ends with the engineering analysis done after the event.  BTW, the main thrust is true, that is 10 ICBMs drop Launch Facility No-Go (LFNG) off strat alert, but...but the issue began with the weapon system processor at the Launch Control Center emitting an electronic pulse to each 10 ICBMs.

An exhausting review of the official Engineering Analysis and wing-wide investigation shows that no maintenance crews were out in the flight area of the affected Flight (Echo) and it can be said that no security teams were dispatched at the initial time of the incident.  Why do I state this?  Because only the launch crew was interviewed.  There is nothing in the investigation that shows that maintenance or security crews were interviewed.  That seems noteworthy in my mind.  

For the UFO angle to be true, then 10 UFOs would have had to been over 10 Launch Facilities...there is no shred of evidence that this was so.  Or...one UFO would have had to have been hovering over the Launch Control Facility...this did not happen due to no one reporting such a thing to have occurred.  Fifty-six years have elapsed since then and not one individual has come forward to state that this occurred...NOT ONE.

The LFs were, and still are, electrically isolated from one another to preclude such a cascading event happening at one LF effecting the remaining LFs.  There were hardened cables that radiated out to each LF from the LCC for command and control purposes thus the "pulse" going through each individual cabling system to the respective LFs.

I would encourage readers to review Engineering Change Proposal (ECP) 1221 which was Boeing's fix for all Minuteman wings and Vandenberg AFB test sites that implemented EMP surge protection fixes.  The same was done for the Titan II ICBM sites under project Loggy Ebb.

But...I repeat myself.

@Grim Reaper 6

Tim has joined the discussion!!! 

Now you will get some good straightforward answers regarding the actual situation at the time.

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33 minutes ago, psyche101 said:

@Grim Reaper 6

Tim has joined the discussion!!! 

Now you will get some good straightforward answers regarding the actual situation at the time.

:tu:

Thanks my brother I have never met Tim, I appreciate the introduction!:tu:

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3 hours ago, Tim Hebert said:

A few salient points regarding Malmstrom AFB 1967 myth...apologies for bringing this up.  This case begins and ends with the engineering analysis done after the event.  BTW, the main thrust is true, that is 10 ICBMs drop Launch Facility No-Go (LFNG) off strat alert, but...but the issue began with the weapon system processor at the Launch Control Center emitting an electronic pulse to each 10 ICBMs.

An exhausting review of the official Engineering Analysis and wing-wide investigation shows that no maintenance crews were out in the flight area of the affected Flight (Echo) and it can be said that no security teams were dispatched at the initial time of the incident.  Why do I state this?  Because only the launch crew was interviewed.  There is nothing in the investigation that shows that maintenance or security crews were interviewed.  That seems noteworthy in my mind.  

For the UFO angle to be true, then 10 UFOs would have had to been over 10 Launch Facilities...there is no shred of evidence that this was so.  Or...one UFO would have had to have been hovering over the Launch Control Facility...this did not happen due to no one reporting such a thing to have occurred.  Fifty-six years have elapsed since then and not one individual has come forward to state that this occurred...NOT ONE.

The LFs were, and still are, electrically isolated from one another to preclude such a cascading event happening at one LF effecting the remaining LFs.  There were hardened cables that radiated out to each LF from the LCC for command and control purposes thus the "pulse" going through each individual cabling system to the respective LFs.

I would encourage readers to review Engineering Change Proposal (ECP) 1221 which was Boeing's fix for all Minuteman wings and Vandenberg AFB test sites that implemented EMP surge protection fixes.  The same was done for the Titan II ICBM sites under project Loggy Ebb.

But...I repeat myself.

Hello Tim, thanks for the great critique of the situation. Where did your information come from, the way you handled the critique it appears that were in the Military at some point is that true?

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1 hour ago, psyche101 said:

@Grim Reaper 6

Tim has joined the discussion!!! 

Now you will get some good straightforward answers regarding the actual situation at the time.

:tu:

I hope Tim pays attention to what Robert Kaminski is saying in the video.

 

 

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Skyeagle,  

So Kaminsky never really confirmed that a UFO seen over Echo-01 (LCF) caused the shutdowns, did he?  He was told second hand, from another individual who had heard second hand that airmen saw said UFO over the LCF.  Even Walter Figel never made that claim!

Despite Kaminsky's interpretations of the fault analysis, Boeing proposed placement of EMP suppression kits at all Minuteman sites via ECP 1221.  ECP 1221 was a direct result of Echo Flight...this was Boeing's answer to the problem... to a mystery baffling Kaminsky.  

Now Skyeagle, do me one kind favor, if you can, provide the names of all individuals at Echo 01 that saw said UFO(s) over the LCF and the flight area itself.  I personally have not found one person that vouched for the UFO angle...not one name.  Perhaps your research skills, which is far better than mine, can dig up a name.  There would have been 8 people topside at a minimum.  The late Eric Carlson and Walter Figel do not count as they were 60-plus feet underground and could not see anything.

BTW, Eric Carlson denied the UFO angles to the story...he was the crew commander.  Figel later recanted his statements given to Salas and Hastings.  So whatever was claimed to have been heard over the telephone is/was bogus.

Just give me a name.  

 

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1 hour ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Hello Tim, thanks for the great critique of the situation. Where did your information come from, the way you handled the critique it appears that were in the Military at some point is that true?

Hello Grim Reaper, I was assigned to Malmstrom AFB from 1981-1985 as a missile launch officer.  We had Minuteman IIs in my squadron, 490th strategic missile squadron.  All of my information was gathered through the 341st Missile Wings unit history which contained portion of the analysis conducted by Boeing and other agencies regarding the 1967 incident.  I also referenced Bernard Nalty's History of the US ICBM program which was classified Top Secret, but declassified some years ago.  And of course I relied on my 4 years missile crew experience and 3 years of producing code components and flight and ground data to be installed in Minuteman III missile guidance systems.  I started looking into this story starting about 2008.

It is indeed a pleasure to make your acquaintance. 

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2 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

I hope Tim pays attention to what Robert Kaminski is saying in the video.

 

 

 

 

With Tim's good manners and wide experience I feel he can bring another important viewpoint to the discussion. Always good to have a broad perspective.

All the best Sky :tu:

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