itsnotoutthere Posted February 28, 2023 #1 Share Posted February 28, 2023 This is how it starts.... Sir Tony Blair and Lord Hague have called for everyone in the UK to get digital ID cards as part of a "technological revolution". In a report, the former Labour prime minister and Conservative leader argue that government records "are still based in a different era". The idea of introducing ID cards has been controversial. As PM, Sir Tony tried to introduce an ID card scheme but it was scrapped by the coalition government. Opponents of identity cards have raised concerns about civil liberties and what they see as unnecessary data collection and intrusion by the state. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64729442 And this is where it's heading...... "Nigeria blocks 73 million mobile phones in security clampdown" Nigeria has been rolling out 11-digit electronic national identity cards for almost a decade, which record an individual’s personal and biometric data, including fingerprints and photo. The National Identity Number (NIN) is required to open a bank account, apply for a driver’s license, vote, get health insurance, and file tax returns. Nigeria is among dozens of African countries including Ghana, Egypt and Kenya with SIM registration laws that authorities say are necessary for security purposes, but digital rights experts here say increase surveillance and hurts privacy. https://www.reuters.com/article/nigeria-tech-phones-idUKL5N2WA06Z 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted February 28, 2023 #2 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Be afraid, be very afraid. This is anslide into control. No mortgage without I.d., no job, no entry to leisure facilities, no vote... oh we can do location tracking. Why were you at the home of a political party member. Why were you shipping at this takeaway with links abroad... oh we can link your medical records. Why were you down the pub today... oh you need protection and we the government know best. Very, very dangerous. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted February 28, 2023 Author #3 Share Posted February 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Be afraid, be very afraid. This is anslide into control. No mortgage without I.d., no job, no entry to leisure facilities, no vote... oh we can do location tracking. Why were you at the home of a political party member. Why were you shipping at this takeaway with links abroad... oh we can link your medical records. Why were you down the pub today... oh you need protection and we the government know best. Very, very dangerous. The next step is charging you to travel and taking the money directly out of your bank account under the guise of saving the planet. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted February 28, 2023 Author #4 Share Posted February 28, 2023 A bit long but worth a view....oh, & very worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted February 28, 2023 #5 Share Posted February 28, 2023 2 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said: This is how it starts.... Sir Tony Blair and Lord Hague have called for everyone in the UK to get digital ID cards as part of a "technological revolution". In a report, the former Labour prime minister and Conservative leader argue that government records "are still based in a different era". The idea of introducing ID cards has been controversial. As PM, Sir Tony tried to introduce an ID card scheme but it was scrapped by the coalition government. Opponents of identity cards have raised concerns about civil liberties and what they see as unnecessary data collection and intrusion by the state. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64729442 And this is where it's heading...... "Nigeria blocks 73 million mobile phones in security clampdown" Nigeria has been rolling out 11-digit electronic national identity cards for almost a decade, which record an individual’s personal and biometric data, including fingerprints and photo. The National Identity Number (NIN) is required to open a bank account, apply for a driver’s license, vote, get health insurance, and file tax returns. Nigeria is among dozens of African countries including Ghana, Egypt and Kenya with SIM registration laws that authorities say are necessary for security purposes, but digital rights experts here say increase surveillance and hurts privacy. https://www.reuters.com/article/nigeria-tech-phones-idUKL5N2WA06Z It is a good example of a solution looking for a problem. It would also cost a fortune to operate and chances are the data collected would, after a suitable period, be sold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted February 28, 2023 Author #6 Share Posted February 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, L.A.T.1961 said: It is a good example of a solution looking for a problem. It would also cost a fortune to operate and chances are the data collected would, after a suitable period, be sold. Oh I think the WEF are more than happy to help fund it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz_Light_Year Posted February 28, 2023 #7 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Eventually everyone except for the extremely poor will have a digital (Global) ID card. Conspiracy theories aside it is just where the technology is headed. Cradle to Grave coverage humans. LOL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted March 1, 2023 Author #8 Share Posted March 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Buzz_Light_Year said: Eventually everyone except for the extremely poor will have a digital (Global) ID card. Conspiracy theories aside it is just where the technology is headed. Cradle to Grave coverage humans. LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted March 1, 2023 #9 Share Posted March 1, 2023 Digital, hell no, a physical card, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabby Kitten Posted March 2, 2023 #10 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Tony Blair is not prime minister anymore. Tory boy William Hague is a peer from the unelected House of Lords. Both are undemocratic and shouldn't be allowed to make decisions like that on everyone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.A.T.1961 Posted March 2, 2023 #11 Share Posted March 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, Crabby Kitten said: Tony Blair is not prime minister anymore. Tory boy William Hague is a peer from the unelected House of Lords. Both are undemocratic and shouldn't be allowed to make decisions like that on everyone else. In truth I doubt the idea will go anywhere, just as previous attempts at ID cards died a death. The UK can be relaxed about many gov policy's that others find offensive, we are not the French. But there is a limit to what the UK public will put up with and this has been one example. There is also the thought, in the back of peoples minds, that if implemented what if you are stopped without an ID. Are you thrown in a cell ? Would they become mandatory. As Blair and Hague are both EU fans maybe they are trying to fix a problem they helped to cause due to supporting the free movement of people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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