Alien 'mother ships' could be flying through our solar system

[Eldorado]

The head of the US government's UFO office says alien 'mother ships' could be flying through our solar system and sending probes to Earth in a new science paper.

The draft paper, published last week DailyMail.com has learned, has also sparked a row with the UFO chief's predecessor over the physics of strange craft seen in our skies.

The six-page article, titled 'Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena', was co-written by Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the director of the Pentagon's UFO unit called the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), and former Harvard Astronomy Department Chair, Professor Avi Loeb.

MSN

Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

Harvard.edu

Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick

Defense.gov

Edited March 6, 2023 by Eldorado

[the13bats]

Oooh goody DOD is at hand

[iAlrakis]

Well, it could be and there's also the option that it's not happening.

There could also be strange jellyfish like intelligent lifeforms swimming through the deepest parts of the oceans sending probes to the surface.

[skyeagle409]

On 3/6/2023 at 12:59 PM, Eldorado said:

The head of the US government's UFO office says alien 'mother ships' could be flying through our solar system and sending probes to Earth in a new science paper.

The draft paper, published last week DailyMail.com has learned, has also sparked a row with the UFO chief's predecessor over the physics of strange craft seen in our skies.

The six-page article, titled 'Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena', was co-written by Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the director of the Pentagon's UFO unit called the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), and former Harvard Astronomy Department Chair, Professor Avi Loeb.

MSN

Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

Harvard.edu

Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick

Defense.gov

I have long been made aware that UAPs have been tracked in space since the 1960s. In fact, Carl Sagan requested certain space surveillance data from the Air Force relating to those objects in space. Dr. Sagan made his request during the UFO Symposium hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U. S House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress Second Session on July 29, 1968. In the years since 1969, there have been confirmations that our space surveillance assets have been tracking UAPs in space, which is information not published on a regular basis in the daily newspapers. 

In 1986, it was revealed that a UAP, code named: "Fast Walker," was tracked at 22,000 mph as it approached Earth and maneuvered near a DSP surveillance satellite before heading back into space and it has new been confirmed that a DSP satellite tracked UAPs over Iran during an aerial encounter in 1976. On June 5, 1995 at a Bay Area lecture, Dr. Steven Greer revealed further findings. He has received leaked information that the Air Force, through its North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) facility deep inside Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado, has tracked an average of 500 "fastwalkers" (UFOs) each year entering the Earth's atmosphere from deep space. This corroborates a similar report from AeroJet engineers Lee Graham and Ron Regehr, who have shown UFO researcher Don Ecker documents showing that AeroJet's DSP satellite system alone has routinely detected UFOs flying into Earth's atmosphere from deep space 2-3 times per month. Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Howard Blum reported that NORAD tracks many UFOs on its deep space radars.

To sum it up, UAPs have been tracked in space, our skies and beneath the seas and the government has now confirmed the UAPs are real.

 

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[Duke Wellington]

On 3/6/2023 at 8:59 PM, Eldorado said:

The head of the US government's UFO office says alien 'mother ships' could be flying through our solar system and sending probes to Earth in a new science paper.

The draft paper, published last week DailyMail.com has learned, has also sparked a row with the UFO chief's predecessor over the physics of strange craft seen in our skies.

The six-page article, titled 'Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena', was co-written by Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the director of the Pentagon's UFO unit called the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), and former Harvard Astronomy Department Chair, Professor Avi Loeb.

MSN

Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

Harvard.edu

Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick

Defense.gov

Photons block the Higgs Field, lowering the mass and inertia of aircraft.

Those craft are ours.

[Timothy]

6 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

I have long been made aware that UAPs have been tracked in space since the 1960s. In fact, Carl Sagan requested certain space surveillance data from the Air Force relating to those objects in space. Dr. Sagan made his request during the UFO Symposium hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U. S House of Representatives, Ninetieth Congress Second Session on July 29, 1968. In the years since 1969, there have been confirmations that our space surveillance assets have been tracking UAPs in space, which is information not published on a regular basis in the daily newspapers. 

In 1986, it was revealed that a UAP, code named: "Fast Walker," was tracked at 22,000 mph as it approached Earth and maneuvered near a DSP surveillance satellite before heading back into space and it has new been confirmed that a DSP satellite tracked UAPs over Iran during an aerial encounter in 1976. On June 5, 1995 at a Bay Area lecture, Dr. Steven Greer revealed further findings. He has received leaked information that the Air Force, through its North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) facility deep inside Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado, has tracked an average of 500 "fastwalkers" (UFOs) each year entering the Earth's atmosphere from deep space. This corroborates a similar report from AeroJet engineers Lee Graham and Ron Regehr, who have shown UFO researcher Don Ecker documents showing that AeroJet's DSP satellite system alone has routinely detected UFOs flying into Earth's atmosphere from deep space 2-3 times per month. Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Howard Blum reported that NORAD tracks many UFOs on its deep space radars.

To sum it up, UAPs have been tracked in space, our skies and beneath the seas and the government has now confirmed the UAPs are real.

However, all of the evidence provided has possible mundane explanations.

[Tatetopa]

Russel's teapot in space.

Russell's teapot is an analogy, formulated by the philosopher Bertrand Russell (1872–1970), to illustrate that the philosophic burden of proof lies upon a person making empirically unfalsifiable claims, rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others.

He wrote that if he were to assert, without offering proof, that a teapot, too small to be seen by telescopes, orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, he could not expect anyone to believe him solely because his assertion could not be proven wrong.

[skyeagle409]

1 hour ago, Timothy said:

However, all of the evidence provided has possible mundane explanations.

Not in these cases. It was well-known for decades that the Air Force was tracking those UAPs in space. In fact, there is a report where the objects were seen hovering 200 miles above Earth's surface and in the U.S. Navy's case,“radar systems detected UAP in low-Earth orbit before they dropped down to 80,000 feet. Periodically, UAP would drop from 28,000 feet to sea level (estimated to be 50 feet), or under the surface, in 0.78 seconds.”

 

[Timothy]

36 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

Not in these cases. It was well-known for decades that the Air Force was tracking those UAPs in space. In fact, there is a report where the objects were seen hovering 200 miles above Earth's surface and in the U.S. Navy's case,“radar systems detected UAP in low-Earth orbit before they dropped down to 80,000 feet. Periodically, UAP would drop from 28,000 feet to sea level (estimated to be 50 feet), or under the surface, in 0.78 seconds.”

 

And the evidence available to support those claims has much more likely mundane explanations.

[skyeagle409]

22 minutes ago, Timothy said:

And the evidence available to support those claims has much more likely mundane explanations.

That is incorrect. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever the UAPs descending from low Earth orbit to 80,000 feet and then, from 28,000 feet to sea-level in 0.78 seconds are those of mankind.

Edited March 9, 2023 by skyeagle409

[skyeagle409]

On 3/6/2023 at 12:59 PM, Eldorado said:

The head of the US government's UFO office says alien 'mother ships' could be flying through our solar system and sending probes to Earth in a new science paper.

The draft paper, published last week DailyMail.com has learned, has also sparked a row with the UFO chief's predecessor over the physics of strange craft seen in our skies.

The six-page article, titled 'Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena', was co-written by Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the director of the Pentagon's UFO unit called the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), and former Harvard Astronomy Department Chair, Professor Avi Loeb.

MSN

Physical Constraints on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

Harvard.edu

Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick

Defense.gov

The huge object of the JAL 1628 case that was described as large as two aircraft carriers, which was observed visually and tracked by military and FAA radar controllers could very well qualify as a mother ship. 

[+joc]

1 hour ago, skyeagle409 said:

The huge object of the JAL 1628 case that was described as large as two aircraft carriers, which was observed visually and tracked by military and FAA radar controllers could very well qualify as a mother ship. 

Neither of the two crew members confirmed seeing anything except “lights” while the captain described an object with “nozzles.” The crews of two other aircraft saw nothing at all.

Out of four separate radar systems, two produced no returns, one had a momentary glitch that seemed erroneous, and the last one acquired a target briefly (if it wasn’t also a glitch) that simply disappeared

[skyeagle409]

52 minutes ago, joc said:

Neither of the two crew members confirmed seeing anything except “lights” while the captain described an object with “nozzles.” The crews of two other aircraft saw nothing at all.

Out of four separate radar systems, two produced no returns, one had a momentary glitch that seemed erroneous, and the last one acquired a target briefly (if it wasn’t also a glitch) that simply disappeared

Apparently,you are unaware of the rest of the story, so let's take a look here, because military and FAA radar controllers confirmed the presence of UFOs near JAL 1628. 

In an interview in 2001 with Mr. Callahan

"The unknown radar target disappeared when the plane was flying south from Fairbanks (after making the complete turn at Fairbanks) while the United airplane was flying northward toward JAL1628. The United plane did not see anything. But after the United airplane passed the JAL and continued north....the unknown radar target appeared again, this time behind the United airplane."  

I ordered the RADAR recorded data and voice tapes flown to the FAA Technical Center in Atlantic City, New Jersey for evaluation and analysis by both FAA Hardware and Software experts... During the play back of the event I observed a primary radar target in the position reported by the Japanese pilot. The intermittent primary target stayed in close proximately to the B747 for approximately 31 minutes. Both the FAA controller and military NORAD controller reported observing the RADAR return of the ‘UFO’ target on their ‘scopes.’  The UFO was painted as an extremely large primary target. 

*****(Now, for the attempted government coverup)*****.

At the conclusion of the hand-off briefing the CIA advised they were ‘confiscating all the data, this event never happened, we were never here and you are all sworn to secrecy

 

PERSONNEL STATEMENT

FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION

Anchorage Air Route' Traffic Control Center

January 7, 1987

 

The following Is a report concerning the Incident involving aircraft JL 1628 north of Fairbanks on November 18, 1986 at 0218 UTC.

My name is Samuel J. Rich (SR). I am employed as an Air Traffic Control Specialist by the Federal Aviation Administration at the Anchorage Air Route Traffic Control Center, Anchorage, Alaska.

During the period of 0035 UTC, November 18, 1986, to 0835 UTC, November 18, 1986, I vas on duty in the Anchorage ARTCC. I was working the D15 position from 0230 UTC, November 18, 1986, to 0530 UTC, November 18, 1986.The pilot of JL 1628 reported that he had traffic at his altitude. He stated it was a big plane with yellow and white lights. We advised him we had no traffic in his position. We adjusted the radar PVD to approximately a 25 mile scale and there vas a radar return in the position the pilot had reported traffic. I called ROCC to ask if they had any military traffic operating near JAL 1628. The ROCC said they had no military traffic in the area. I then asked them if they could see any traffic near JL 1628. ROCC advised that they had traffic near JAL 1628 In the same position we did.  I

Samuel J. Rich

Air Traffic Control Specialist

 

UFO SIGHTING CONFIRMED BY FAA, AIR FORCE RADAR

ANCHORAGE, JAN. 1 -- A veteran pilot whose UFO sighting was confirmed on radar screens Tuesday said the mysterious object was so enormous that it dwarfed his Japan Airlines cargo plane.

The FAA confirmed on Tuesday that government radar picked up the object that Terauchi said followed his Boeing 747 cargo jet. FAA flight control reports indicate the object stayed with JAL Flight 1628 for at least 32 minutes. Terauchi said he thought it was longer. The flight controller directing the JAL plane reported the object on his radar was as close as five miles to the jet.

5:39:35 AARTCC - JAl1628 heavy. Military radar advises they are picking up intermittent primary target behind you in trail, in trail I say again.

[Hazzard]

12 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

Apparently,you are unaware of the rest of the story, so let's take a look here, because military and FAA radar controllers confirmed the presence of UFOs near JAL 1628. 

In an interview in 2001 with Mr. Callahan

"The unknown radar target disappeared when the plane was flying south from Fairbanks (after making the complete turn at Fairbanks) while the United airplane was flying northward toward JAL1628. The United plane did not see anything. But after the United airplane passed the JAL and continued north....the unknown radar target appeared again, this time behind the United airplane."  

I ordered the RADAR recorded data and voice tapes flown to the FAA Technical Center in Atlantic City, New Jersey for evaluation and analysis by both FAA Hardware and Software experts... During the play back of the event I observed a primary radar target in the position reported by the Japanese pilot. The intermittent primary target stayed in close proximately to the B747 for approximately 31 minutes. Both the FAA controller and military NORAD controller reported observing the RADAR return of the ‘UFO’ target on their ‘scopes.’  The UFO was painted as an extremely large primary target. 

*****(Now, for the attempted government coverup)*****.

At the conclusion of the hand-off briefing the CIA advised they were ‘confiscating all the data, this event never happened, we were never here and you are all sworn to secrecy

 

PERSONNEL STATEMENT

FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION

Anchorage Air Route' Traffic Control Center

January 7, 1987

 

The following Is a report concerning the Incident involving aircraft JL 1628 north of Fairbanks on November 18, 1986 at 0218 UTC.

My name is Samuel J. Rich (SR). I am employed as an Air Traffic Control Specialist by the Federal Aviation Administration at the Anchorage Air Route Traffic Control Center, Anchorage, Alaska.

During the period of 0035 UTC, November 18, 1986, to 0835 UTC, November 18, 1986, I vas on duty in the Anchorage ARTCC. I was working the D15 position from 0230 UTC, November 18, 1986, to 0530 UTC, November 18, 1986.The pilot of JL 1628 reported that he had traffic at his altitude. He stated it was a big plane with yellow and white lights. We advised him we had no traffic in his position. We adjusted the radar PVD to approximately a 25 mile scale and there vas a radar return in the position the pilot had reported traffic. I called ROCC to ask if they had any military traffic operating near JAL 1628. The ROCC said they had no military traffic in the area. I then asked them if they could see any traffic near JL 1628. ROCC advised that they had traffic near JAL 1628 In the same position we did.  I

Samuel J. Rich

Air Traffic Control Specialist

 

UFO SIGHTING CONFIRMED BY FAA, AIR FORCE RADAR

ANCHORAGE, JAN. 1 -- A veteran pilot whose UFO sighting was confirmed on radar screens Tuesday said the mysterious object was so enormous that it dwarfed his Japan Airlines cargo plane.

The FAA confirmed on Tuesday that government radar picked up the object that Terauchi said followed his Boeing 747 cargo jet. FAA flight control reports indicate the object stayed with JAL Flight 1628 for at least 32 minutes. Terauchi said he thought it was longer. The flight controller directing the JAL plane reported the object on his radar was as close as five miles to the jet.

5:39:35 AARTCC - JAl1628 heavy. Military radar advises they are picking up intermittent primary target behind you in trail, in trail I say again.

 

Jesus H C its been a while, Sky!!. 

Glad to see you are still around.  I honestly thought I lost you there a couple of years back.... Is Donteatus still with us?

[skyeagle409]

1 hour ago, Hazzard said:

 

Jesus H C its been a while, Sky!!. 

Glad to see you are still around.  I honestly thought I lost you there a couple of years back.... Is Donteatus still with us?

Yes indeed, it has been awhile!!! I am not sure if Donteatus is still around today. Hope you are doing well these days! I wish we can get everyone back together again. 

Edited March 9, 2023 by skyeagle409

[Trelane]

Another thread shoveling debunked manure, goody.

[skyeagle409]

3 hours ago, Trelane said:

Another thread shoveling debunked manure, goody.

The facts say otherwise. Let's take a look here about  2 1/2 months after the JAL 1628 encounter.. 

 

U.S. Air Force KC-135 Stratotanker Airplane Encounters Large UFO, Alaska, 30 January 1987

 

Two and a half months after the JAL Flight 1628’s UFOs encounter (the previous post), a similar incident occurred over Alaska. A U.S. Air Force Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker flew inbound from Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage, Alaska to Eielson Air Force Base in Fairbanks, Alaska.  At 20,000 feet the airplane crew sighted a very large disk-shaped UFO that was similar to the one encountered by the JAL Flight 1628. The UFO moved to within 13 metres (40 feet) of the KC-135. And as can be determined by the U.S. Air Force Pilot’s question 5:29 minutes into the video, it's apparent that he has been briefed about the JAL Flight 1628’s UFO encounter. The answer by the FAA official was also very interesting. He said, “It’s very rare seeing the lights (UFOs) up there”. He thereby admitted that UFOs were seen from time to time, albeit rarely!

The U.S. Air Force Captain received from the FAA (5:42 minutes into the video). The FAA message to the U.S. Air Force Captain said, “Call the local FAA office in Anchorage after you have landed at Eielson Air Force Base”. Then the Captain asked, “That’s concerning the object we were looking at?” “Affirmative”, answered the Eielson Air Force Base official. Less than 24 hours later (31 January 1987), the Alaska Airlines Flight 53 encountered several very large disk-shaped UFOs that trailed them. The UFOs eventually flew away from the airplane, moving about a mile a second!

 

Alaska Airlines Flight 53 incident

On 29 January 1987 at 18:40,  Alaska Airlines Flight 53 observed a fast moving object on their onboard weather radar. While at 35,000 ft (11,000 m), some 60 miles (97 km) west of McGrath, on a flight from Nome to Anchorage, the radar registered a strong target in their 12 o'clock position, at 25 miles (40 km) range.

While they could not distinguish any object or light visually, they noticed that the radar object was increasing its distance at a very high rate. With every sweep of their radar, about 1 second apart, the object added five miles to its distance, translating to a speed of 18,000 mph (29,000 km/h). The pilot however relayed a speed of 'a mile a second' to the control tower, or a speed of 3,600 mph (5,800 km/h), but confirmed that the target exceeded both the 50 mi (80 km) and 100 mi (160 km) ranges of their radar scope in a matter of seconds.

Source:

FAA, Statement of Interview with Alaska Airlines Crew, January 29, 1987 at 1930 AST, Richard O. Gordon, Manager, AAL FSDO-63

[Trelane]

10 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

The facts say otherwise. Let's take a look here about  2 1/2 months after the JAL 1628 encounter.. 

Your 'facts" aren't remotely so, but we've already covered that elsewhere.

Sky the JAL encounter was put to bed in the 90's. If you want to believe that there were these star destroyers buzzing about and only the crew flying that plane have stories about it, then that's fine. It's not a fact or anything close though. By all means keep punching at air though.

 

 

[+Hammerclaw]

If there are aliens capable of Starflight, they may not, necessarily, be lightyears away. They may be mere light-hours or light-days away, ancient mobile civilizations camped out in our Kuiper Belt or Oort Cloud. Civilizations tens of millions of years old may consider stars and planets deathtraps, as the natural disasters they can inflict on lifeforms can easily make them extinct. So, they choose an anchorage as far out as possible, where the raw materials of the Oort Cloud or Kuiper Belt are readily available. It would explain how relatively quickly they may have detected atomic weapon blasts on Earth, the last of the three original garden worlds in their immediate vicinity.

Edited March 10, 2023 by Hammerclaw

[Hazzard]

On 3/9/2023 at 8:36 PM, skyeagle409 said:

Yes indeed, it has been awhile!!! I am not sure if Donteatus is still around today. Hope you are doing well these days! I wish we can get everyone back together again. 

Those were the days. Awesome debates going over some of biggest cases in history. I believe that that Best Evidence threads got over 2000 pages each! 

Anyway, good to see you again, buddie. 

Keep looking up. 

[Dejarma]

19 hours ago, skyeagle409 said:

The facts say otherwise.

there are no facts! People like your good self tend to struggle with the definition of the word 'fact'...

It becomes incredibly tedious after a while trying to have an intelligent adult debate when one has to suffer the constant barrage of 'it's fact'...

Everything you hear/ read about on this subject is a story, nothing more!

Because you believe something so deeply, doesn't make it a fact with regards to the true definition of the word!! What part of that do you not understand?? zzzzzzz..

[skyeagle409]

9 hours ago, Trelane said:

Your 'facts" aren't remotely so, but we've already covered that elsewhere.

Sky the JAL encounter was put to bed in the 90's. If you want to believe that there were these star destroyers buzzing about and only the crew flying that plane have stories about it, then that's fine. It's not a fact or anything close though. By all means keep punching at air though.

 

My facts are right on. The head of the US government's UFO office says alien 'motherships' could be flying through our solar system and sending probes to Earth in a new science paper, so we can relate the gigantic size of the  UFO revealed in the JAL 1628 case as a mothership especially since it was also accompanied by smaller UFOs. In the case surrounding the 1976 Iranian UFO encounter where smaller UFOs  were seen leaving a larger UFO over Iran, we can relate that large UFO as a mothership as well. That encounter was also tracked by a DSP satellite according to DSP satellite engineers. In other words, the government may something up its sleeve in regard to UFO motherships.

On another note, are you aware of what happened to UFO skeptic Phil Klass and the skeptics at CSICOP when they attempted to debunk the JAL 1628 case? 

.

The JAL 1628: CSICOP Leaps Into The Breach

The initial press stories in January treated this sighting as real news. No one contradicted the captain when he made his "outlandish" claims, the most outlandish being that he was followed by a UFO larger than his 747 jumbo jet. The press was yearning for an explanation, but there was none to be had as long as the FAA was still investigating. It was at this point that CSICOP decided it was necessary to fill the vacuum. On the 22nd of January CSICOP published a press release entitled "UFO Mystery Solved" [14]. The cover letter of the press release announced the "findings of the (CSICOP) investigation into the Japan Air Lines Flight 1628 UFO incident of November 18, 1986." The release itself stated that "according to a leading UFO investigator" (Philip J. Klass) "at least one extraterrestrial object was involved - the planet Jupiter, and possibly another - Mars." The press release asserted that at the time of the sighting (incorrectly given as one hour earlier than it actually occurred) Jupiter was "extremely bright" at a -2.6 magnitude and would have been about 10 degrees above the horizon on the left side of the aircraft where the pilot first reported seeing the UFO. Mars would have been slightly lower and about 20 degrees to the right of Jupiter. The press release stated that "Although the very bright Jupiter and less bright Mars had to be visible to JAL Capt. Kenjyu Terauchi, the pilot never once reported seeing either - only a UFO that he described as being a "white and yellow" light in his initial radio report to the Federal Aviation Administration controllers at Anchorage" [14]. The press release could have mentioned, but did not, that Terauchi did report seeing numerous stars in the sky, city lights and a glow of sunset in the west.

The CSICOP explanation was based mostly on Phil Klass' analysis of an early version of the transcript of the audio tape. The radar tracking data were not made available at that time and so he could not have known the precise locations and flight directions of the plane at the times of the various sightings. Apparently he completely ignored the pictorial information (drawings by the captain) which had been widely publicized. 

Mr. Klass made a major error in not waiting for the release of the complete information package by the FAA because, if he had waited, he would have found that the publicized versions of the sighting were actually quite accurate in their descriptions of the lights. These descriptions, of course, rule out Jupiter and Mars as possible causes of the sighting. Without the FAA data package he did not know that initial drawings were.

In retrospect it appears that the CSICOP press release which was marked "FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE" should have been marked "FOR PREMATURE RELEASE."

Edited March 10, 2023 by skyeagle409

[skyeagle409]

55 minutes ago, Hazzard said:

Those were the days. Awesome debates going over some of biggest cases in history. I believe that that Best Evidence threads got over 2000 pages each! 

Anyway, good to see you again, buddie. 

Keep looking up. 

I missed the good old days and amazed how much attention the Best Evidence threads got. 

[skyeagle409]

55 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

there are no facts! People like your good self tend to struggle with the definition of the word 'fact'...

It becomes incredibly tedious after a while trying to have an intelligent adult debate when one has to suffer the constant barrage of 'it's fact'...

Everything you hear/ read about on this subject is a story, nothing more!

Because you believe something so deeply, doesn't make it a fact with regards to the true definition of the word!! What part of that do you not understand?? zzzzzzz..

Facts are facts. Prove me wrong be posting evidence those UFOs are those of mankind. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

3 minutes ago, skyeagle409 said:

Facts are facts. Prove me wrong be posting evidence those UFOs are those of mankind. 

Official Government Report Claims There May Be "Alien Mothership" Inside Solar System https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/official-government-report-claims-there-may-be-alien-mothership-inside-solar-system/ar-AA18t9Vg?ocid=Peregrine&cvid=d28d0d4063444144af97aa7aa78e9aac&ei=17

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