Should we be concerned about the Far-Right infecting UK politics?

[pellinore]

 

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

The day there isn’t resistance is to day to worry. 
Until then remember to slap a Nazi, it’s good for your karma. 

[Grim Reaper 6]

1 hour ago, pellinore said:

 

Yes you should be concerned, look what happened to America in 2016, complacency is the key to RightWing Extremism. Hopefully the British will have learned from America’s mistakes, I mean the repercussions of which can still be felt globally.

JIMHO

[Ell]

The psychopaths who rule us are embedded in all political parties. They are the cooperating two blades of a pair of scissors and everything that gets between them gets destroyed.

 

It is a mistake to discern between left and right. The distinction that matters is the one between the psychopaths and the people they prey upon.

Edited March 8, 2023 by Ell

[itsnotoutthere]

Um...no.

This.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/political-correctness-meant-islamist-extremism-was-downplayed-by-prevent/ar-AA17fp8N?ocid=BingHPC

Seven of the 13 terror attacks in the past six years, including the murder of MP David Amess, the stabbing of three friends in a Reading park, and the bombing of Liverpool women’s hospital have been carried out by Islamist extremists who had been referred to Prevent.

 

“Prevent has a double standard when dealing with the extreme Right-wing and Islamism,” said Mr Shawcross, a former chairman of the Charity Commission.

“Prevent takes an expansive approach to the extreme Right-wing, capturing a variety of influences that, at times, has been so broad it has included mildly controversial or provocative forms of mainstream, Right-wing leaning commentary that have no meaningful connection to terrorism or radicalisation.”

One document prepared by Prevent’s research unit listed a prominent Conservative politician and former member of the Government as being among figures “associated with far-Right sympathetic audiences and Brexit”.

Edited March 8, 2023 by itsnotoutthere

[+Hammerclaw]

2 hours ago, Ell said:

The psychopaths who rule us are embedded in all political parties. They are the cooperating two blades of a pair of scissors and everything that gets between them gets destroyed.

 

It is a mistake to discern between left and right. The distinction that matters is the one between the psychopaths and the people they prey upon.

Yes, the proletariat must rise in lockstep and rectify the situation. Of course, we're talking about people who cross party lines and murder each other over football matches.

[itsnotoutthere]

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[Myles]

I fear the far left even more, but people should fear the far left and the far right.   

Unfortunately, In America, too many people are dumb enough to follow a party on everything no matter how absurd it is.  

No abortions!  Really, supporting that is dumb.

Biological males competing in female sports.  Really, supporting this is very dumb.

But they follow what their party says without question.  We have the great divider in biden messing the country up even more than his predecessor, who was his own idiot.  

[Setton]

7 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Um...no.

This.

 

Um...yes.

This.

https://news.sky.com/story/right-wing-extremism-fastest-growing-threat-says-uks-top-cop-in-counter-terrorism-12135071

And this.

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Since 2017, counter-terrorism forces have foiled 32 plots: 18 were Islamist related, and 12 were from the extreme right wing

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/16/terrorism-in-the-uk-the-rising-threat-of-far-right-extremists

[pellinore]

5 hours ago, Setton said:

Um...yes.

This.

https://news.sky.com/story/right-wing-extremism-fastest-growing-threat-says-uks-top-cop-in-counter-terrorism-12135071

And this.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/16/terrorism-in-the-uk-the-rising-threat-of-far-right-extremists

 

10 hours ago, itsnotoutthere said:

Skip to 2.15

 

 

13 hours ago, Ell said:

The psychopaths who rule us are embedded in all political parties. They are the cooperating two blades of a pair of scissors and everything that gets between them gets destroyed.

 

It is a mistake to discern between left and right. The distinction that matters is the one between the psychopaths and the people they prey upon.

 

8 hours ago, Myles said:

I fear the far left even more, but people should fear the far left and the far right.   

Unfortunately, In America, too many people are dumb enough to follow a party on everything no matter how absurd it is.  

No abortions!  Really, supporting that is dumb.

Biological males competing in female sports.  Really, supporting this is very dumb.

But they follow what their party says without question.  We have the great divider in biden messing the country up even more than his predecessor, who was his own idiot.  

 

14 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

The day there isn’t resistance is to day to worry. 
Until then remember to slap a Nazi, it’s good for your karma. 

 

13 hours ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

Yes you should be concerned, look what happened to America in 2016, complacency is the key to RightWing Extremism. Hopefully the British will have learned from America’s mistakes, I mean the repercussions of which can still be felt globally.

JIMHO

Our present government, no longer Tory or Conservative (they ejected everyone with any morals or ideals who wouldn't embrace the lunacy of Brexit), is full-on to do anything to avoid an electoral wipe-out, even to leave the ECHR so we are a pariah state like Russia and Belarus.

Look at them- Johnson, who has gone full-Trump and is now denying he attended parties in lockdown when everyone knows he did, and is arguing Sue Gray's possible lack of impartiality means he wasn't at them even though the police fined him for being at them; Chris Grayling who paid a ferry company £120 million when they didn't have any ships and had copied and pasted their T&C from a takeaway company; Dom Raab who didn't know Dover-Calais was an important trade route; Mad Nads who wanted to sell-off C4 because it criticised Bunter; Hancock canoodling his aide during  lockdown; Iain Duncan Smith saying parliament need not debate the TCA and NIP as they had been debated endlessly, and now saying no one knew what was in the agreements; billions of tax-payers money used fraudulently in the VIP PPE procurements. So many of them sacked for sexual impropriety, theft, embezzlement or tax avoidance (the last being the reason for Brexit, btw).

This latest nonsense - where are we going to build the huge detention centres? Camps capable of housing tens of thousands of inmates. Who will staff them? Who will monitor them? Where will we send the inmates? If they are from Syria or Iraq, who will be prepared to land an airliner at a runway where there may be hostile gunfire- and will the returnees willingly return to a state that wants to torture or kill them? They will have to be in handcuffs and foot chains and thrown off the plane onto the runway. What will the world say about the UK?

Edited March 9, 2023 by pellinore

[Grim Reaper 6]

2 minutes ago, pellinore said:

 

 

 

 

 

Our present government, no longer Tory or Conservative (they ejected everyone with any morals or ideals who wouldn't embrace the lunacy of Brexit), is full-on to do anything to avoid an electoral wipe-out, even to leave the ECHR so we are a pariah state like Russia and Belarus.

Look at them- Johnson, who has gone full-Trump and is now denying he attended parties in lockdown when everyone knows he did, and is arguing Sue Gray's possible lack of impartiality means he wasn't at them even though the police fined him for being at them; Chris Grayling who paid a ferry company £120 million when they didn't have any ships and had copied and pasted their T&C from a takeaway company; Dom Raab who didn't know Dover-Calais was an important trade route; Mad Nads who wanted to sell-off C4 because it criticised Bunter; Hancock canoodling his aide during  lockdown; Iain Duncan Smith saying parliament need not debate the TCA and NIP as they had been debated endlessly, and now saying no one knew what was in the agreements; billions of tax-payers money used fraudulently in the VIP PPE procurements. So many of them sacked for sexual impropriety, theft, embezzlement or tax avoidance (the last being the reason for Brexit, btw).

This latest nonsense - where are we going to built the huge detention centres? Camps capable of housing tens of thousands of inmates. Who will staff them? Who will monitor them? Where will we send the inmates? If they are from Syria or Iraq, who will be prepared to land an airliner at a runway where there may be hostile gunfire- and will the returnees willingly return to a state that wants to torture or kill them? They will have to be in handcuffs and foot chains and thrown off the plane onto the runway. What will the world say about the UK?

The only way to end it is through peaceful revolution, by this I mean the majority of the Nation are against these changes just like in the United States. This is where partisanship is required and unfortunately so far in the United States this has not happened, hopefully it will work in the UK.

[pellinore]

5 minutes ago, Grim Reaper 6 said:

The only way to end it is through peaceful revolution, by this I mean the majority of the Nation are against these changes just like in the United States. This is where partisanship is required and unfortunately so far in the United States this has not happened, hopefully it will work in the UK.

I am hoping world condemnation will curb the way the UK is going. When our government is openly condemning it's own civil servants for protesting against breaching international law, and using asylum seekers as scapegoats for its own policies, I fear Gary Linaker is right- the UK has regressed to the politics that were prevalent in Europe in the 1930s.

[itsnotoutthere]

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/03/09/how-the-abedi-brothers-slipped-through-the-net/

[bmk1245]

9 hours ago, pellinore said:

I am hoping world condemnation will curb the way the UK is going. When our government is openly condemning it's own civil servants for protesting against breaching international law, and using asylum seekers as scapegoats for its own policies, I fear Gary Linaker is right- the UK has regressed to the politics that were prevalent in Europe in the 1930s.

Really? How about Trinidad and Tobago? 'Immigration Detention Centre in Aripo'... Trinidad and Tobagians must be full blown nazies...

[pellinore]

12 minutes ago, bmk1245 said:

Really? How about Trinidad and Tobago? 'Immigration Detention Centre in Aripo'... Trinidad and Tobagians must be full blown nazies...

I don't understand your point. Why must they be full-blown Nazies? Every country has detention centres including the UK, AFAIK Find an immigration removal centre: Overview - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Edited March 9, 2023 by pellinore

[bmk1245]

20 hours ago, pellinore said:

I don't understand your point. Why must they be full-blown Nazies? Every country has detention centres including the UK, AFAIK Find an immigration removal centre: Overview - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Lineker was alluding to 1930s Germany, aka nazi Germany...