Doug1066 Posted April 7, 2023 #51 Share Posted April 7, 2023 59 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: Before I click the link, what does ajol stand for? African Journals On Line 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted April 7, 2023 #52 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 hours ago, Doug1066 said: https://www.ajol.info/index.php/ajcem/article/view/209853 Doug "It is a semi-synthetic broad-spectrum anti-helminthic, anti-viral and anti-cancer agent. It has a wide safety margin with low adverse effects when it is used orally. It has, however, so far only been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) as a broad spectrum anti-parasitic agent." Why is that? If it is anti-viral and anti-cancer why is Merk not getting it approved for that? They could make buttloads more money if they sold that way. This makes no sense to me. And I doubt the anti-cancer claim as 2 of my dogs that were on a regular dose of ivermectin to keep them from getting heartworms died of cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1066 Posted April 7, 2023 #53 Share Posted April 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: "It is a semi-synthetic broad-spectrum anti-helminthic, anti-viral and anti-cancer agent. It has a wide safety margin with low adverse effects when it is used orally. It has, however, so far only been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) as a broad spectrum anti-parasitic agent." Why is that? If it is anti-viral and anti-cancer why is Merk not getting it approved for that? They could make buttloads more money if they sold that way. This makes no sense to me. And I doubt the anti-cancer claim as 2 of my dogs that were on a regular dose of ivermectin to keep them from getting heartworms died of cancer. Takes time to do the research FDA requires. My dog is also on ivermectin and has cancer, but is still alive and doing quite well at the moment. Besides, having anti-cancer properties does not mean that it cures cancer. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted April 7, 2023 #54 Share Posted April 7, 2023 29 minutes ago, Doug1066 said: Takes time to do the research FDA requires. My dog is also on ivermectin and has cancer, but is still alive and doing quite well at the moment. Besides, having anti-cancer properties does not mean that it cures cancer. Doug Just like having anti-viral properties does not mean it cures any virus. I hope your dog is comfortable. And the comment about taking time, no, Ivermectin has been around since 1975. That is plenty of time to research the claims of anti-viral and anti-cancer properties. There is a reason it hasn't been approved by the FDA, most likely it is not true and Merk has proven that and decided not to market it that way. Cancer is the biggest money maker pharmacueticals have even bigger than viagra and statin drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug1066 Posted April 7, 2023 #55 Share Posted April 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said: Just like having anti-viral properties does not mean it cures any virus. I hope your dog is comfortable. And the comment about taking time, no, Ivermectin has been around since 1975. That is plenty of time to research the claims of anti-viral and anti-cancer properties. There is a reason it hasn't been approved by the FDA, most likely it is not true and Merk has proven that and decided not to market it that way. Cancer is the biggest money maker pharmacueticals have even bigger than viagra and statin drugs. Being around doesn't mean anybody did the research. Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted April 7, 2023 #56 Share Posted April 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, Doug1066 said: Being around doesn't mean anybody did the research. Doug I'm sure they did if someone is claiming it has anti-viral and anti-cancer properties. Where did that website get it's information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted April 7, 2023 #57 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Weirdest corner of UM. A bunch of entrenched pseudo scientists thinking covid was some major threat, that masks worked, that jabs saved you, that the jabs haven't killed and ruined lives, thay myocarditis figures are a blip... wow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 7, 2023 #58 Share Posted April 7, 2023 2 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: Weirdest corner of UM. A bunch of entrenched pseudo scientists thinking covid was some major threat, that masks worked, that jabs saved you, that the jabs haven't killed and ruined lives, thay myocarditis figures are a blip... wow. Well never claim to be a scientist. But thank you for the personal attack. Perhaps you can respond with something substantial or even address the points that I posted rather than make accusations. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted April 8, 2023 #59 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) What we have learned three years on... Masks probably helped blunt each of the initial onsets of the various varients, but probably didn't prevent many from getting sick eventually. (Many that hid from the 1st wave got lax on the 2nd and 3rd, and suffered for it) Probably cleaning all your groceries with bleach wasn't the best idea. (And why all the hoarding of toilet paper?) Closing down all restaurants probably saved a few lives, but crashed the economy for everyone. (Oregon had very low rates, and stayed closed longer then most states, but in the long run, it seems very few people really are thankful for it) Forcing people to get the vaccines just wasn't going to happen. (Looking at you Joe Biden) The 5G towers do not cause Covid19. (WTF was that about!!) Washing your hands shouldn't be due to the covid scare, but done all the time anyway. Cough into your elbow, not into your hand. (Looking at you Joe Biden) It maybe was the Raccoon Dogs fault. We're not sure yet. (Someone needs to start a punk band named Raccoon Dogs.) China isn't being very cooperative with Covid Data and making itself look like a bad guy on the world stage. Edited April 8, 2023 by DieChecker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenMindedSceptic Posted April 9, 2023 #60 Share Posted April 9, 2023 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/faith-freedom-self-reliance/gold-standard-scientific-study-finds-masks-are-useless-against-covid The opening paragraph describes why you all fall for the fallacy that masks worked. That plus you ignore that an airborne virus is like a marble passing through a chain link fence. The old water droplets argument doesn't hold water... see what I did there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 9, 2023 #61 Share Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, OpenMindedSceptic said: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/faith-freedom-self-reliance/gold-standard-scientific-study-finds-masks-are-useless-against-covid The opening paragraph describes why you all fall for the fallacy that masks worked. That plus you ignore that an airborne virus is like a marble passing through a chain link fence. The old water droplets argument doesn't hold water... see what I did there? Seems you failed to actually read the conclusions of the study it states: "The observed lack of effect of mask wearing in interrupting the spread of influenza‐like illness (ILI) or influenza/COVID‐19 in our review has many potential reasons, including: poor study design; insufficiently powered studies arising from low viral circulation in some studies; lower adherence with mask wearing, especially amongst children; quality of the masks used; self‐contamination of the mask by hands; lack of protection from eye exposure from respiratory droplets (allowing a route of entry of respiratory viruses into the nose via the lacrimal duct); saturation of masks with saliva from extended use (promoting virus survival in proteinaceous material); and possible risk compensation behaviour leading to an exaggerated sense of security" https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD006207.pub6/full#pico In other words the data is insufficent concerning your claims on Mask Wearing. Also at the same source it also showed hand washing and hygeine did have an effect: "Our findings show that hand hygiene has a modest effect as a physical intervention to interrupt the spread of respiratory viruses," So these measures did have some effect despite the contrary to your statements. Did you even read the data you posted? It seems you didn't. Edited April 9, 2023 by Scholar4Truth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted April 11, 2023 #62 Share Posted April 11, 2023 On 4/8/2023 at 4:36 AM, OpenMindedSceptic said: Weirdest corner of UM. A bunch of entrenched pseudo scientists thinking covid was some major threat, that masks worked, that jabs saved you, that the jabs haven't killed and ruined lives, thay myocarditis figures are a blip... wow. You don't have to interact. You can crawl back under your rock and feel awfully superior all by yourself. Nobody cares. Nobody even takes you seriously. A you do is post nonsense and lies and don't even read your own links. Gosh, where would we be without that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotoutthere Posted April 13, 2023 #63 Share Posted April 13, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 7:36 PM, OpenMindedSceptic said: Weirdest corner of UM. A bunch of entrenched pseudo scientists thinking covid was some major threat, that masks worked, that jabs saved you, that the jabs haven't killed and ruined lives, thay myocarditis figures are a blip... wow. You have to understand, they are starting to realize they were duped, it's only natural for them to be a bit scared at this point & dare I say a bit embarrassed. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 13, 2023 #64 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 minute ago, itsnotoutthere said: You have to understand, they are starting to realize they were duped, it's only natural for them to be a bit scared at this point & dare I say a bit embarrassed. 6 Million dead were duped? yeah ok. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted April 13, 2023 #65 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scholar4Truth said: 6 Million dead were duped? yeah ok. Did you know that over 60 million people die every year on Planet Earth? You don't think 10% of any number can be fudged? When they lied about every aspect of Covid from the beginning...but you believe the death count...really? When everyone was dying of Covid...who was saying they died of Covid? The Medical Community...and why...because they tested + for Covid. And who was administering all these tests anyway...people in parking lots at Wal-mart...oh but the test says + so...yep...they died of Covid...how naive. Edited April 13, 2023 by joc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted April 13, 2023 #66 Share Posted April 13, 2023 On 4/8/2023 at 6:42 PM, DieChecker said: What we have learned three years on... Masks probably helped blunt each of the initial onsets of the various varients, but probably didn't prevent many from getting sick eventually. (Many that hid from the 1st wave got lax on the 2nd and 3rd, and suffered for it) Probably cleaning all your groceries with bleach wasn't the best idea. (And why all the hoarding of toilet paper?) Closing down all restaurants probably saved a few lives, but crashed the economy for everyone. (Oregon had very low rates, and stayed closed longer then most states, but in the long run, it seems very few people really are thankful for it) Forcing people to get the vaccines just wasn't going to happen. (Looking at you Joe Biden) The 5G towers do not cause Covid19. (WTF was that about!!) Washing your hands shouldn't be due to the covid scare, but done all the time anyway. Cough into your elbow, not into your hand. (Looking at you Joe Biden) It maybe was the Raccoon Dogs fault. We're not sure yet. (Someone needs to start a punk band named Raccoon Dogs.) China isn't being very cooperative with Covid Data and making itself look like a bad guy on the world stage. You have forgotten the most important thing we learned...That the Community Organizer Obama...organized the entire Socialist World to 'administer' this Pandemic over the eight years he was Socialist World Organizer General. He had a task force study pandemics...fact. It wasn't only the Democrats who were determined to get Donaldus Magnus Trumpus out of the White House...it was the entire Socialist Network of seething leftist fanatics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted April 13, 2023 #67 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, joc said: Did you know that over 60 million people die every year on Planet Earth? You don't think 10% of any number can be fudged? When they lied about every aspect of Covid from the beginning...but you believe the death count...really? When everyone was dying of Covid...who was saying they died of Covid? The Medical Community...and why...because they tested + for Covid. And who was administering all these tests anyway...people in parking lots at Wal-mart...oh but the test says + so...yep...they died of Covid...how naive. So any of us who had relatives and friends who died from Covid were lied to about why they died? Are you mad/crazy/stupid? The lies from the beginning were that it wasn't so bad, then the actual numbers started coming in, the hospitals with tirage tents in the parking lot, all that was lies? And by the way, most people who died with covid, died of pnuemonia or blood clots due to covid, so covid is what killed them, just like someone who dies from the flu. Edited April 13, 2023 by Desertrat56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 13, 2023 #68 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Desertrat56 said: So any of us who had relatives and friends who died from Covid were lied to about why they died? Are you mad/crazy/stupid? The lies from the beginning were that it wasn't so bad, then the actual numbers started coming in, the hospitals with tirage tents in the parking lot, all that was lies? And by the way, most people who died with covid, died of pnuemonia or blood clots due to covid, so covid is what killed them, just like someone who dies from the flu. It was just the flu, it will be gone by Easter-Trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Desertrat56 Posted April 13, 2023 #69 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Scholar4Truth said: It was just the flu, it will be gone by Easter-Trump Oh, that was after they finally admitted that it was in the U.S. before 2020. Oh, wait, that was the big lie, that we never saw one case before Feb 2020 in the U.S. but all those plague ship passengers that were from the U.S. were allowed to fly home in October and November of 2019 as if there was nothing wrong with them. Edited April 13, 2023 by Desertrat56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted April 13, 2023 #70 Share Posted April 13, 2023 12 hours ago, joc said: You have forgotten the most important thing we learned...That the Community Organizer Obama...organized the entire Socialist World to 'administer' this Pandemic over the eight years he was Socialist World Organizer General. He had a task force study pandemics...fact. It wasn't only the Democrats who were determined to get Donaldus Magnus Trumpus out of the White House...it was the entire Socialist Network of seething leftist fanatics. LOL dude over the edge. That's some seriously crazy **** you posted there . 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katniss Posted April 13, 2023 #71 Share Posted April 13, 2023 14 hours ago, Scholar4Truth said: 6 Million dead were duped? yeah ok. You have to understand, they are starting to realize they are delusional, fooled by far right corporate media propaganda and misinformation, it's only natural for them to be a bit ignorant at this point & dare I say mentally insane. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 14, 2023 #72 Share Posted April 14, 2023 27 minutes ago, Katniss said: You have to understand, they are starting to realize they are delusional, fooled by far right corporate media propaganda and misinformation, it's only natural for them to be a bit ignorant at this point & dare I say mentally insane. Let us not forget these same guys crying about the vaccine, don't remember that Trump endorsed it. Yet they said nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katniss Posted April 14, 2023 #73 Share Posted April 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Scholar4Truth said: Let us not forget these same guys crying about the vaccine, don't remember that Trump endorsed it. Yet they said nothing. Oh they will eventually have a ludicrous answer for that from conspiracy nut land. They always have creative answers for everything. It's the way of the conspiracy nut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scholar4Truth Posted April 14, 2023 #74 Share Posted April 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Katniss said: Oh they will eventually have a ludicrous answer for that from conspiracy nut land. They always have creative answers for everything. It's the way of the conspiracy nut. Like the democrats pressured him and he gave into them. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katniss Posted April 14, 2023 #75 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Just now, Scholar4Truth said: Like the democrats pressured him and he gave into them. Good one! How about this. At the time it wasn't the covid vaccine they gave him, it was just a seasonal flu vaccine. No wait! OMG! I just realized it wasn't a seasonal flu vaccine! It was a rabies vaccine!!! dun-dun-duuuuun. It's so easy to fall down that rabbit hole. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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